What makes an ///M an ///M?

What makes an ///M car an ///M car? What characteristics must it show in order for it to deserve the ///M badge?

those sexy 4 exhaust tips :P

What makes an M car an M is its great driving dynamics and the grin that it puts on your face when you twist keys to turn it on.

Originally Posted by Kayani_1

What makes an M car an M is its great driving dynamics and the grin that it puts on your face when you twist keys to turn it on.

precisely....

The Engine,
The Brakes (stopping power)
The Handling (sticks like glue on the road - flat out on corners!)
The Drive
The Seats

I could go on and on

Drive one:

for instance 335i vs M3
550i vs M5
650i vs M6

any of the top 3 comparisons should answer your question!

Marketing...

Originally Posted by bimmer7

The Engine,
The Brakes (stopping power)
The Handling (sticks like glue on the road - flat out on corners!)
The Drive
The Seats

The brakes in M cars is a significant disappointment. Until they give them a different, more aggressive higher MOT compound, it's all for show.

The current generation ///M cars definitely have an incredible difference in the suspensions. Previous gen cars were just stiffer than stock springs and dampers.

Originally Posted by Z3Mcoupedriver

Marketing...

Precisely.


There are significant changes to the car, to be sure, but it's mostly ///Marketing.

So what you guys are saying is that M is all marketing and nothing else?

wait, you have to turn a key to start it?

Meh.

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

So what you guys are saying is that M is all marketing and nothing else?

No. We're just saying that ///Marketing plays a significant role in it.

Are you serious with that comment............

Because turning the "KEY"was metaphorically saying actually driving the car not literally using a key for starting a car.

Originally Posted by coontie

wait, you have to turn a key to start it?

Meh.

hahaha. i was gonna say! i dont turn my key... i dont even take it off my belt!

but for real. the brakes are retarded....ummm squeak..........i dont see how those ducts help the brakes to cool off.. b/c they really dont in this model. e46 sure does get cold air.

Originally Posted by leeor

hahaha. i was gonna say! i dont turn my key... i dont even take it off my belt!

but for real. the brakes are retarded....ummm squeak..........i dont see how those ducts help the brakes to cool off.. b/c they really dont in this model. e46 sure does get cold air.

You guys are missing out on the best part of driving an M car! I still "turn" my key and see her come alive.

I just don't get the same feeling when I am pressing a button.

///Masturbation

Originally Posted by enigma

You guys are missing out on the best part of driving an M car! I still "turn" my key and see her come alive.

I just don't get the same feeling when I am pressing a button.

lol SHHHHH i always wanted keyless okay dont kill my excitment hahaha

This is what makes an ///M and ///M

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...ess_163340.htm

Originally Posted by cipher5

This is what makes an ///M and ///M

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...ess_163340.htm

Nice video, but the problem is you won't notice all that "M-refinement" until you are on the track... till then it is worth the extra $$?

The looks of the M3 alone, to me, may just be worth the upgrade from the 335i. But!!! The 335i engine is a more high tech engine than the V8.

Originally Posted by cipher5

This is what makes an ///M and ///M

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/T...ess_163340.htm

Now THAT is ///Marketing

Originally Posted by Albert Biermann, VP Engineering BMW M

It is very important to reduce the weight as much as possible on an ///M car

E90/92 M3 - Unladen weight 3726 lbs

How has an almost 2 ton car had it's weight reduced?

Nice ///marketing video.

Originally Posted by TauronMaikar

Nice video, but the problem is you won't notice all that "M-refinement" until you are on the track... till then it is worth the extra $$?

The looks of the M3 alone, to me, may just be worth the upgrade from the 335i. But!!! The 335i engine is a more high tech engine than the V8.

Agreed BUT:
F1 designed v8 engine that rev's to 9k and weighs less than n54 is lower tech? Atleast it does not have fuel pump problems

Originally Posted by e30e

Agreed BUT:
F1 designed v8 engine that rev's to 9k and weighs less than n54 is lower tech? Atleast it does not have fuel pump problems

More like 8.4k RPM, but still...

Yep, you got a point there... to be fair, the M3's engine is the world-renowned M5/M6 engine minus 2 zilinders. So basically it is the direct descendent of the engine that won World Engine of the Year 3 times in a row. Sure, it seems like complaining because one got a no. 2 engine and not a no. 1 engine (the twin turbo).

Does anybody who own an M3 care about mileage?

Someone please explain why "high tech" is "better."

Originally Posted by jvr826

Someone please explain why "high tech" is "better."

More individual parts to fail?

Originally Posted by jvr826

Someone please explain why "high tech" is "better."

Because if low tech were better we would all still be using horses and carts.

Originally Posted by TauronMaikar

The 335i engine is a more high tech engine than the V8.

Care to explain, how?

And do you have any facts to base this assumption on?

Originally Posted by mustaine

Care to explain, how?

And do you have any facts to base this assumption on?

+ 1 Do you???