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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 02-15-2009, 09:56 AM
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HELP!! Cant put my rear view mirror back on!

Hi,
Can anyone help?
I have a E39 520i P reg.
I was wiping the windscreen down as was a little dirty and my arm knocked the rear view mirror slightly.
I cant for the life of me work out how to re-attach it as the whole unit has come away from the glass and is now hanging from the cables.
I have tried some glue from Halfords but that was crap and had no affect at all.

Is there something else that I need or should be doing? Anyone else had this problem?
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Old 02-15-2009, 11:36 PM
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Instructions how to remove & remount rear view mirror

Is the button still attached to the windshield? If so, the rear view mirror should be turned to a 45 degree angle, then twisted back on to the button on the windshield.

Do NOT try to just push it on or force it...it is a simple "align" then twist on...no pushing, grunting, or force. Some people have CRACKED their windshield trying to force the mirror back on to the windshield mount...thinking incorrectly that it pushed back on like it came off. And as you 've found out...to remove the mirror from the windshield...all it takes is a simple "bump" toward the glass. This is so that the mirror doesn't injure anyone if they are thrown into it during a crash...if a body part is flung toward the mirror...it's supposed to disengage from the windshield.

Remount Instructions:


Dismount Instructions:
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:18 AM
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Hi, thank you very much for the info but the button has come off with the whole unit. I tried to glue it back on but the mirror is too heavy and wont stick. Is there a way of removing the button from the mirror unit and then sticking the button to the window?

Thanks again for your time
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Old 02-16-2009, 07:25 AM
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I can't help with how to remove the button from the mirror body. Once removed, the button should be glued to the windshield glass using a special adhesive. The "kit" is available at any auto parts store here in the states - hopefully it is readily available in the UK as well. It pretty much consists of a small glass vial of adhesive (like cyanoacrylate) and sometimes a primer as well. It's quite inexpensive.
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Old 02-16-2009, 08:05 AM
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Hi, thank you very much for the info but the button has come off with the whole unit. I tried to glue it back on but the mirror is too heavy and wont stick. Is there a way of removing the button from the mirror unit and then sticking the button to the window?

Thanks again for your time
First, remove the little panel so you can access the electrical connector...and disconnect it. Now that the mirror is away from the windshield:
1. take a pair of pliers and grip the "button" as if it was attached to the windshield..hold it steady
2. now, move the mirror's "arm" in the same direction (as if it was still on the windshield) and seperate it from the "button"

Again, the mirror shouldn't be difficult to seperate from the button if bumped or moved in the right direction...it was designed to seperate easily from the button that is attached to the windshield. Do not TWIST the mirror off the button...it is designed to pop off, twist on.

When you get the mirror seperated from the button...you will see that there's a clip or wires inside the "circular" base of the mirror's arm...that is how it secures to the "button". The image below is from an e34 rearview mirror...but again, the design of the clip is similar...your e39 mirror may look slightly different...but the DESIGN will have a similar clip or wires inside the circular opening that clips on to the windshield's mounting button.

And you can see when you look up the part nbr for the windshield "button" (mounting plate)...it is used in a WHOLE LOT OF other BMWs...so the images below of my old e34 rearview mirror would mount to your windshield with no problem...even though the clip inside the arm of the mirror looks slightly different...it still mounts to the "button":
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref....5530&showus=on
(IGNORE the writing in these images of the e34 rearview mirror...take NOTE of the wire/clip thingys on each side of the circular opening)



Mirror with electrical connector removed:
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Old 02-16-2009, 09:53 AM
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Brilliant!! Thank you all very much, I think you have helped me loads here. I will check for the kit online now.

Thanks again!!
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:01 AM
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On a somewhat related subject, is a retrofit auto-dimming mirror plug and play or no?
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Old 02-16-2009, 10:21 AM
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Golfman - if you manage to find glue kit here in the UK could you post a link?

(I need to remove and refit my mirror a bit lower down in order to get the plastic cover to fit over my rain sensor).
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:03 PM
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On a somewhat related subject, is a retrofit auto-dimming mirror plug and play or no?
It depends on which options your car has etc. There are different typs of EC mirrors out there...some of them will work and some won't. For instance, if you already have the "clown nose" rearview mirror, you may need to use one that has similar features so that your keyless alarm system will work corrrectly.

If you go to a site like www.realoem.com and enter your car's VIN (or click the appropriate tabs)...then go to VEHICLE TRIM (main group) SUN VISOR/MIRROR (sub group)...and find the part nbr listed for the EC mirror...then select and copy that BMW part nbr so that you can go back to the SEARCH by PART NBR box...you will see the other BMW models that use the same mirror...that way you'll know what type to look for and buy...and not get stuck with a mirror that won't work for your application.

For example...when I enter my 99 540iT's info...then search using the part nbr for my car....this is the list of other BMWs that use the same rearview mirror:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/partxref....4447&showus=on
The rearview mirror my 97 e38 is NOT compatible since it doesn't have the "clown nose" LED on the bottom of the mirror...although it has the electrochromatic feature.
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Old 02-16-2009, 12:46 PM
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I feared it would be a little more complicated like that. I have a flip tab like normal (i.e. Honda/chevy) cars, but it's red and it lights up like the clown nose when the doors are lockedů. I'll do research on RealOEM and ask if I have further questions (and when I can actually afford it***8230

The electrochromatic isn't a function that relies on the computer, though, it's in the mirror, right?
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Old 02-17-2009, 10:53 AM
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I coulnt find the glue so I will try the one from Halfords. I Will post a new message if all is OK with the fitting but wont be until the weekend. Fingers crossed.
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The electrochromatic isn't a function that relies on the computer, though, it's in the mirror, right?
Thanks!!
No, the EC mirror just needs power to work. But where the problem come in is with other components that may be configured for your model. For instance, I installed an e38 EC mirror in my old e34...but these cars had different keyless entry systems...so I had to remove a few of the wires from the electrical harness because they conflicted with the door locks on my e34. Again, the mirror worked flawlessly in diming when lights shined on it at night...but until I figured out the wiring issue...my doors would UNLOCK all by themselves a few seconds after LOCKING them.

That's why I suggested inputting your car info into realoem.com...then do a parts cross reference search to see which other models use the same set-up as your car. That way you won't have to deal with any issues that may cause problems with other systems.

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I coulnt find the glue so I will try the one from Halfords. I Will post a new message if all is OK with the fitting but wont be until the weekend. Fingers crossed.
Where you able to seperate the winshield mount (button) from the rearview mirror? Since you mentioned getting the glue...I'm assuming you had success in seperating the two pieces. BTW...if you find the glue and it works etc...come back to this thread and finish it with your resolution. That way, the issue and conclusion is all contained in one thread. That makes it easier for anyone who may run into the same problem in the future...they won't have to go searching for the "fix" if the run upon this thread and there's no conclusion.
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Old 03-02-2009, 05:51 PM
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Just lived this night mare, on my 99 528 i. With mirror in right hand hold 90 degrees to the right of base on windshield. Hold aginst base and turn 90 clockwise like you are screwing it on and it basically "screws on". Actually it has 3 spring loaded clips that you are sliding it around.
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Old 03-02-2009, 08:24 PM
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I missed your post, Q, that makes much more sense. Thanks! As ever, you're one of the most useful posters here!
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Old 04-03-2012, 02:32 PM
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I knocked my mirror off (1999 528i w/o rain sensor) and went to a body shop. They balked after they looked at the mirror. I went home, took the long-handled pliers out of my trunk tool kit, twisted the circular disc off the mirror, made note of which end is "up", bought the mirror glue at Autozone, left the original black glue on the disc, (although I cleaned it twice), applied the adhesive to the entire surface of the disc, waited a minute, put a drop of the activator in the middle of the disc, made sure the disc was pointing in the right direction, and pushed it onto the clean windshield area. I did draw a circle with a crayon on the outside of the W/S before I did this. I held it in place for 1-2 minutes, and then waited for 45 more minutes, then I twisted the mirror back on. You must have it @ about 45 degrees to the left before you twist it. It will lock into place. I determined that you could plug the electrics back in either before or after installing the mirror. I did everything in the direct sun, @ 85 degrees outside. Oh, if you forget to put the rubber ring back on the disc, no sweat. just put it on AFTER you glue the disc to the W/S. Anybody can re-install this mirror. Good luck!

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