Thinking of getting an e63 - couple of questions - Bimmerfest - BMW Forums



Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 6 Series > E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)

E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 11-26-2017, 04:51 AM
CitizenKane1 CitizenKane1 is offline
Registered User
Location: Ireland
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: e46 318Ci
Thinking of getting an e63 - couple of questions

Hi all,

I'm interested in picking up a 6er, probably a pre-LCI 630i or 645Ci, and I just have a couple of questions I haven't been able to find the answer to from searching and I wonder you might be able to help with:

1. Does this car have a steptronic/SMG transmission or is it just standard auto? My preference would be manual but they seem quite rare on this car.

2. What is the difference between the "Sport" variant of this car compared with standard? I know on the other BMWs I've owned (e92 and e46) the M Sport bodykit is totally different and makes a big difference to the look of the car, but is the same true of the e63/64?

Thank you!
Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #2  
Old 11-26-2017, 06:41 AM
645/333's Avatar
645/333 645/333 is offline
Michael
Location: uk
 
Join Date: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,708
Mein Auto: BMW 640i SE Convertible
first and most important thing is to check if the 645ci has had the coolant pipe fixed, if not pass on any 645 as you will have to do this as it is one fault you seldom get away with, I personally loved my 645 but got rid of it before this fault occurred, the 630 is no slouch and if you want reliability this is probably the one to go for!!!
__________________

Always said I would go back to a 6 series
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 11-26-2017, 02:52 PM
FredoinSF FredoinSF is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Reno NV & Healdsburg CA
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,161
Mein Auto: 4 BMWs, 1 Jeep, 1 Vespa
Steptronic is regular automatic. SMG was available and yeah, the 3 pedal versions are rare but worth the wait IMO. I would pass on the SMG altogether, but not my car not my money so your call.

Stick with the 6 cylinder if your tolerance for high repair bills is low. The N62 has a propensity to leak oil and coolant. Parts are cheap, but labor is a totally different stratosphere than what you experienced on your E46. If you are doing the labor yourself and have done some work on you previous BMW beyond oil changes and brakes, or you find an example that has had all gaskets and valve stem seals already replaced, then the 8 cylinder starts making sense.

Check out the "looking for E63/4" sticky thread on top of thread list...
__________________



Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
  #4  
Old 11-26-2017, 06:53 PM
HerbP HerbP is offline
Moderator
Location: Georgia
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,485
Mein Auto: 2005 645Ci & 2007 750Li
Along with the above, the 645 has a Secondary Air system that will fell at some point around 100k miles. This is an expensive repair, along with valve seal problems also. The 2007 650 & up, does not have the Secondary Air system.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-03-2017, 03:42 PM
Vlad Dracul Vlad Dracul is offline
The prince
Location: Dayton OH
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 127
Mein Auto: 2005 645ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by HerbP View Post
Along with the above, the 645 has a Secondary Air system that will fell at some point around 100k miles. This is an expensive repair, along with valve seal problems also. The 2007 650 & up, does not have the Secondary Air system.
+1 on this.

Nightmare until it's fixed.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G930A using Bimmerfest mobile app
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-04-2017, 04:11 AM
Hsurf's Avatar
Hsurf Hsurf is offline
Moderator
Location: East Sussex
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 286
Mein Auto: E63 645ci
I'm not sure what Ireland's version of the MOT and emissions regs are but if they're the same as the UK we don't have to worry about the secondary air system, mine hasn't worked for about three and half years and I've had no secondary problems resulting from its failure.
__________________

Neal.
_________________
E63 645Ci
Toyota Hilux Surf 3.0
Honda CBR1100XX
_________________
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-04-2017, 04:13 PM
CitizenKane1 CitizenKane1 is offline
Registered User
Location: Ireland
 
Join Date: Nov 2017
Posts: 2
Mein Auto: e46 318Ci
Guys,

Thanks for all the replies, this is really helpful.

At the moment I'm more or less torn between a 630i and a 335i - I appreciate they are very different cars but they both appeal to me (for different reasons) and whatever I end up going for will probably be determined by which one I can find the best example of within my budget.

Anyway I had one more question about the e63 - when exactly did the LCI models start, was it 2007 or 2008?

And is there much difference cosmetically with the LCI, particularly the M Sport?

Cheers!


Sent from my iPhone using Bimmerfest
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-04-2017, 05:19 PM
TPBWorks TPBWorks is online now
Registered User
Location: Italy
 
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 44
Mein Auto: BMW
The LCI came out in mid or late 2007, the difference of course is in headlights, taillights, fog lights, bumpers, trunk, electronic shifter in non SMG models (also Sport button I think), revised hardware components, different needles in the instrument cluster, and of course the computer is a CIC and USB became a standard feature, but mine for example, even though is considered a LCI has CCC (11/07), because CIC came out in 2008 (Q1). Also more options for the Interior Trim.

For the Sport Package in LCI you get plus features like bonnet with the two aerodynamic lines, front active stabiliser sway bars, some models get DKG, black shadow line (exterior trim around the door and windows), sport seats, sport steering wheel.

That's all as far I can remember now, hope it helps

Last edited by TPBWorks; 12-05-2017 at 07:16 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-04-2017, 06:36 PM
FredoinSF FredoinSF is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: Reno NV & Healdsburg CA
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 5,161
Mein Auto: 4 BMWs, 1 Jeep, 1 Vespa
LCI kicked in for model year 2008. BMW switched some time in July 2007. My Pre LCI 2007 model year car was built on July 4th, 2007, it's one of the last pre-LCI cars, so careful if you're looking at a July 2007 build car and LCI is a must...
__________________




Last edited by FredoinSF; 12-04-2017 at 06:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-10-2017, 05:56 PM
EconoBox EconoBox is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: in my mind
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,359
Mein Auto: 2001 330i
I have a friend also looking at a 2007 650i 'vert. 70k miles for $13k

Looks like 2007+ have no SAS issue.
VSS can be done by an indy for $2500, it seems.
Anyone know the coolant pipe cost for labor? Indy.

Any other red flags for 650i, besides typical used BMW maintenance (used to that)
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-10-2017, 06:06 PM
EconoBox EconoBox is offline
Officially Welcomed to the 'Fest
Location: in my mind
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 1,359
Mein Auto: 2001 330i
I have a friend also looking at a 2007 650i 'vert. 70k miles for $13k

Looks like 2007+ have no SAS issue.

VSS can be done by an indy for $2500, it seems.

Anyone know the coolant pipe cost for labor? Indy.
Ok, BimmerFix is like $250 and water pump labor. No biggie.

Are those the big 3 for the 650i ?
None of these are telling me to say "RUN!!"

Any other red flags for 650i, besides typical used BMW maintenance (used to that)
Reply With Quote
Reply

See More Related BMW Stories


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 6 Series > E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:13 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001- VerticalScope Inc. All rights reserved.