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Old 04-18-2017, 06:51 AM
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How to check a cable?

Hello

since I replaced my CCC in the BMW dealer (under warranty!) my mic is not working, voice commands do not work, phone does not work, etc.
I guess they forgot to plug something and I was wondering... how to follow the cabling? I believe somewhere along the cable a connector is open.

I tought this site would help: http://www.bmw-planet.net/diagrams/release/en/ but either I dont know how to use it, or it's useless for this purpose

any hint to know where the cable goes, and where connectors are along the way?
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Old 04-18-2017, 10:06 AM
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It sounds like they forgot to code something properly? Do you have a loose cable, or are you assuming that?
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Old 04-19-2017, 02:51 AM
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It sounds like they forgot to code something properly? Do you have a loose cable, or are you assuming that?


Hello

I have no idea on what might be wrong, but I think the most easy thing to troubleshoot at user level is the phisical connection, other than the "logical" configuration.

I might be wrong thou...

thanks!
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Old 04-19-2017, 06:29 AM
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Hello

since I replaced my CCC in the BMW dealer (under warranty!) my mic is not working, voice commands do not work, phone does not work, etc.
I guess they forgot to plug something and I was wondering... how to follow the cabling? I believe somewhere along the cable a connector is open.

I tought this site would help: http://www.bmw-planet.net/diagrams/release/en/ but either I dont know how to use it, or it's useless for this purpose

any hint to know where the cable goes, and where connectors are along the way?
uh, if they did it under warranty and it isn't working... why not just bring it back to them...?
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:05 AM
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uh, if they did it under warranty and it isn't working... why not just bring it back to them...?
dont ger me worng, I dont want to be rude, but I asked for advice on how to check the cable, not what can be done

the thing is that they replaced it long time ago, and for several reasons I did not claimed it on time.
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Old 04-19-2017, 07:05 AM
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dont ger me worng, I dont want to be rude, but I asked for advice on how to check the cable, not what can be done

the thing is that they replaced it long time ago, and for several reasons I did not claimed it on time.
well i can tell you with 90% confidence that it has nothing to do with a cable. they didn't code it properly.
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Old 04-24-2017, 12:58 AM
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well i can tell you with 90% confidence that it has nothing to do with a cable. they didn't code it properly.
Hello, thanks for the imput, is there any way to see if the problem is one or the other?
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Old 04-24-2017, 06:12 PM
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Hello, thanks for the imput, is there any way to see if the problem is one or the other?
yeah you take it to someone who can code it and has the proper tools to work on the car
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Old 04-25-2017, 01:26 AM
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yeah you take it to someone who can code it and has the proper tools to work on the car

again dont get me worng, I dont want to be unpolite, but I come to the forum looking for options and solutions (and help someone else to whom my knoweldge can help), going to the delaer is always an option that does not need me to come here
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Old 04-25-2017, 05:25 AM
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again dont get me worng, I dont want to be unpolite, but I come to the forum looking for options and solutions (and help someone else to whom my knoweldge can help), going to the delaer is always an option that does not need me to come here
I am helping you. I don't know how you expect this system works, but the only way to diagnose it is with the BMW software. PERIOD. If you don't want to take advice then too bad for you. This isn't a Honda where you can take it to any shop and diagnose it. The BMW systems are complex and need BMW tools to diagnose.
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:41 AM
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I am helping you. I don't know how you expect this system works, but the only way to diagnose it is with the BMW software. PERIOD. If you don't want to take advice then too bad for you. This isn't a Honda where you can take it to any shop and diagnose it. The BMW systems are complex and need BMW tools to diagnose.
yes, I know, that's why I ask for advice, I understand that to code a mic on a BWM you need to use INPA, wich I have, but dont know else much from there.

anyhow, thanks for the suggestion to go to the dealer.

Still; I would appreciate any other input wich could help me.

Thanks!
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Old 04-25-2017, 08:45 AM
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Do you have some sort of reading comprehension problem? There isn't any other input. YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT TO SOMEONE WHO CAN DIAGNOSE IT.

I am 100% sure it needs to be recoded. This has to be done by a dealer or someone else with OFFICIAL BMW SOFTWARE

What about this is so hard for you to understand? There isn't some easy solution to this. Stop being an idiot and get it fixed correctly
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Do you have some sort of reading comprehension problem? There isn't any other input. YOU HAVE TO TAKE IT TO SOMEONE WHO CAN DIAGNOSE IT.

I am 100% sure it needs to be recoded. This has to be done by a dealer or someone else with OFFICIAL BMW SOFTWARE

What about this is so hard for you to understand? There isn't some easy solution to this. Stop being an idiot and get it fixed correctly
His mother tongue is probably Spanish and often comments can be misinterpreted no matter how much you spell it out!!!!
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:21 AM
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I think this is getting out of hand. You reached a point where insulting is fine... I did not expect this here.
I was expecting support to learn how to do things (and don't answer again it HAS to be done in the dealer, because I'm certain in can be done without dealers, of course with a lot of learning involved..)
I'm dissapointed.


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Old 04-25-2017, 09:31 AM
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His mother tongue is probably Spanish and often comments can be misinterpreted no matter how much you spell it out!!!!
i don't think he is misinterpreting me, i think he just wants an easy way out of the problem and doesn't want to fix it the right way.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:33 AM
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i don't think he is misinterpreting me, i think he just wants an easy way out of the problem and doesn't want to fix it the right way.

I'm not missinterpreting you

you say: go to the delaer , IS THE ONLY WAY
I say: it's not the only way, I want to learn how to do it.

no missinpretation involved.

unless I'm wrong, and going to the dealer is the ONLY way, wich I dont believe as I see people coding functions in different threads of different forums.
If I'm wrong, please accept my apologies...
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I'm not missinterpreting you

you say: go to the delaer , IS THE ONLY WAY
I say, it's not the only way, I want to learn how to do it.

no missinpretation involved.

unless I'm wrong, and going to the dealer is the ONLY way, wich I dont believe as I see people coding functions in different threads of different forums.
If I'm worng, please accept my apologies...
I said the dealer or someone who has the official software. the only way to do is to use the software. that's what i'm trying to tell you. if you want to do it yourself read the DIYs on installing the BMW software tools INPA and NCS Expert i can tell you how to default code the CCC to your VIN if you are able to get to that point. You need to be pretty good at computer to do the setup and you need the correct coding cable.
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Old 04-25-2017, 09:38 AM
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I said the dealer or someone who has the official software. the only way to do is to use the software. that's what i'm trying to tell you. if you want to do it yourself read the DIYs on installing the BMW software tools INPA and NCS Expert i can tell you how to default code the CCC to your VIN if you are able to get to that point. You need to be pretty good at computer to do the setup and you need the correct coding cable.
Good, we are now getting to the point. Thanks.
as said I have already the software installed (INPA and NCS Expert). What I can not find is any thread where explains speciically where to find the mic enabling function, and that's what I need.
I dont know if to enable the mic I need to enable a complete module, reset it, or whatever... that's what I'm looking for. once I know what I have to do, I'll try to find how.
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Good, we are now getting to the point. Thanks.
as said I have already the software installed (INPA and NCS Expert). What I can not find is any thread where explains speciically where to find the mic enabling function, and that's what I need.
I dont know if to enable the mic I need to enable a complete module, reset it, or whatever... that's what I'm looking for.
there isn't a function to enable the mic.

first, run INPA and check for for error codes. it will give you error codes for each module. post them here.

i think the problem is that they didn't code correctly. you will need to default code the modules to your VIN. we can do that after you post the error messages
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Old 04-27-2017, 05:53 AM
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Thanks

I'll start learning how to backup the current data to restore if something goes worng, and then go from there.
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I wouldn't worry about backing up the current configuration, NCS Expert will code it correctly based on your VIN sand VO

Especially considering that the current configuration is most likely incorrect. I highly recommend reading up on default coding with NCS Expert and default coding the CCC
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