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E63 / E64 6 Series (2004 - 2010)
The E63/E64 BMW 6 Series builds on BMW's sporty heritage with aggressive lines and an incredible motor to back the design up. Available in coupe and convertible trims with a standard 4.8 liter engine producing 360 horsepower and 360 lb-ft of torque, the 6-series is a popular choice that exceeds expectations.

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Old 06-17-2013, 03:50 PM
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(Los Angeles area) Mechanic "price quote" wanted for N62 Valve Stem replacement*

Good Day, Guys!

I am looking for a mechanic who can quote me a fair and honest price (labor only) to remove and replace the engine valve stem seals on my 2005 BMW 645. I will supply the OEM parts for the repair.

I am in the Los Angeles area (Chatsworth, CA) and can drive the car to you.

I would have done the replacement myself, but I don't have the timing tools, air compressor, spring compressor, etc.

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Old 06-17-2013, 05:35 PM
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(Los Angeles area) Mechanic "price quote" wanted for N62 Valve Stem replacement*

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Old 06-17-2013, 06:04 PM
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Good Day, Guys!

I am looking for a mechanic who can quote me a fair and honest price (labor only) to remove and replace the engine valve stem seals on my 2005 BMW 645. I will supply the OEM parts for the repair.

I am in the Los Angeles area (Chatsworth, CA) and can drive the car to you.

I would have done the replacement myself, but I don't have the timing tools, air compressor, spring compressor, etc.

Many Thanks, Bimmer Community!!
If you do not remove the heads, you do not need the timing jigs. If you need them, check with KEIF on the 7 series forum. I think he has a set he rents out? If it is not him, he will know who has them. You can use a low volume air compressor, & the spring compressor is fairly cheap. It will be a trying job!

Good Luck!
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Old 06-18-2013, 08:42 PM
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Re: (Los Angeles area) Mechanic "price quote" wanted for N62 Valve Stem replacement*

Check with Cisco beemers in Rancho Cucamonga on 8th St.
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Old 06-19-2013, 01:11 AM
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Good Day, Guys!

I am looking for a mechanic who can quote me a fair and honest price (labor only) to remove and replace the engine valve stem seals on my 2005 BMW 645. I will supply the OEM parts for the repair.

I am in the Los Angeles area (Chatsworth, CA) and can drive the car to you.

I would have done the replacement myself, but I don't have the timing tools, air compressor, spring compressor, etc.

Many Thanks, Bimmer Community!!
I have a great Indy in Westlake village. Call Chris @ CSS motorwerks. 818-335-2602.

If you want more info PM me.
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:30 AM
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Good Day, Guys!

I am looking for a mechanic who can quote me a fair and honest price (labor only) to remove and replace the engine valve stem seals on my 2005 BMW 645. I will supply the OEM parts for the repair.

I am in the Los Angeles area (Chatsworth, CA) and can drive the car to you.

I would have done the replacement myself, but I don't have the timing tools, air compressor, spring compressor, etc.

Many Thanks, Bimmer Community!!

Oil consumption was excessive - It smoked - I was told I needed valve stem seals

My car (didn't pass smog & couldn't renew registration);
2006 BMW 550I – 92,000 miles – V8 (N62TU)
Smokes (white/gray ) – failed visual – Smog Report (15 mph – HC ppm Measured 91 – Max. 49)

Symptoms & history;
It used oil (approx. 1 qt. per 2-3 tanks) and I read the history of V8 valve stem problems (internet & local shop research), I was about to have the valve guide/stem seals replaced or drive the car off a cliff. But it didn’t have the classic symptoms of defective valve stem seals/guides. It also ran like a rapped ape (old school for ran great). I’m a heavy truck mechanic with old school car experience (35 years). The plugs were clean and the exhaust smelled funny, also the exhaust dripped clean water no matter how hot or long it ran. I pulled the intake throttle housing and noticed excessive oil. Replaced the (ccv) diaphragms in the valve covers (torn) & read up on the cyclone oil separator (like a Dyson vacuum). Because I wasn’t happy with the oil consumption & residue in the intake, I fabricated a sponge with screen for each valve cover vent outlet. This cleaned out the oil residue and I assume it will reduce oil consumption while allowing crankcase recirculation, but it did not solve the smoke problem. I pulled the spark plugs and stuck a camera down a couple plug holes. Yes, the top of the pistons were loaded with carbon. So I sprayed Sea Foam in each plug hole, followed by a shot of low pressure shop air to help spread it around the piston. I let it sit for an hour or so, then reinstalled the plugs. I topped off the fuel tank with high octane and added 12 oz. of CRC Fuel System Cleaner (part #05063) to the tank. 100 miles later and what a difference – no smoke or water dipping out the exhaust after warm up. I’m in love with the car again

**The valve stem diameter was increase at a production point (you would assume) to remedy the guide problem. I could't believe BMW would continue to use inferior stem seals after this change. My vehicle has now passed smog test & no longer smokes. I did have to run the proceedure twice before it lowerd the HC levels within specs. And I will probably do it 1 more time for good measure. It cost me $200 to fix compared to the $4000 > $5000 I was told it would take for a guide/seal replacement **

**** Day 14 - 760 miles later NO smoke or excessive water from tailpipe - It also **** Does not need any oil ****
For those of you seasoned mechanics replacing guides & seals - This worked for me - my vehicle - my situation - but I believe you should diagnose each vehicle on an individual basis - Regardless of BMW guide/valve stem history.

**Note: I need to give full credit to my 25 yr. old friend/mechanic/smog tech/neighbor for his insistence I try Sea Foam. He works on BMWs, Mercedes and other makes. I never heard of Sea Foam (we used Justice Brothers in my hay day) and I didn't believe it would solve my issue. Although it was my idea to soak the piston tops first before spraying it thru the intake. I'll also take credit for the sponge/foam/screen in the PCV hose idea. **
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Old 06-22-2013, 11:56 AM
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Re: (Los Angeles area) Mechanic "price quote" wanted for N62 Valve Stem replacement*

Great post AB. This is invaluable to try before spending the $$
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Old 06-23-2013, 12:58 AM
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Oil consumption was excessive - It smoked - I was told I needed valve stem seals

My car (didn't pass smog & couldn't renew registration);
2006 BMW 550I – 92,000 miles – V8 (N62TU)
Smokes (white/gray ) – failed visual – Smog Report (15 mph – HC ppm Measured 91 – Max. 49)

Symptoms & history;
It used oil (approx. 1 qt. per 2-3 tanks) and I read the history of V8 valve stem problems (internet & local shop research), I was about to have the valve guide/stem seals replaced or drive the car off a cliff. But it didn't have the classic symptoms of defective valve stem seals/guides. It also ran like a rapped ape (old school for ran great). I'm a heavy truck mechanic with old school car experience (35 years). The plugs were clean and the exhaust smelled funny, also the exhaust dripped clean water no matter how hot or long it ran. I pulled the intake throttle housing and noticed excessive oil. Replaced the (ccv) diaphragms in the valve covers (torn) & read up on the cyclone oil separator (like a Dyson vacuum). Because I wasn't happy with the oil consumption & residue in the intake, I fabricated a sponge with screen for each valve cover vent outlet. This cleaned out the oil residue and I assume it will reduce oil consumption while allowing crankcase recirculation, but it did not solve the smoke problem. I pulled the spark plugs and stuck a camera down a couple plug holes. Yes, the top of the pistons were loaded with carbon. So I sprayed Sea Foam in each plug hole, followed by a shot of low pressure shop air to help spread it around the piston. I let it sit for an hour or so, then reinstalled the plugs. I topped off the fuel tank with high octane and added 12 oz. of CRC Fuel System Cleaner (part #05063) to the tank. 100 miles later and what a difference – no smoke or water dipping out the exhaust after warm up. I'm in love with the car again

**The valve stem diameter was increase at a production point (you would assume) to remedy the guide problem. I could't believe BMW would continue to use inferior stem seals after this change. My vehicle has now passed smog test & no longer smokes. I did have to run the proceedure twice before it lowerd the HC levels within specs. And I will probably do it 1 more time for good measure. It cost me $200 to fix compared to the $4000 > $5000 I was told it would take for a guide/seal replacement **

**** Day 14 - 760 miles later NO smoke or excessive water from tailpipe - It also **** Does not need any oil ****
For those of you seasoned mechanics replacing guides & seals - This worked for me - my vehicle - my situation - but I believe you should diagnose each vehicle on an individual basis - Regardless of BMW guide/valve stem history.

**Note: I need to give full credit to my 25 yr. old friend/mechanic/smog tech/neighbor for his insistence I try Sea Foam. He works on BMWs, Mercedes and other makes. I never heard of Sea Foam (we used Justice Brothers in my hay day) and I didn't believe it would solve my issue. Although it was my idea to soak the piston tops first before spraying it thru the intake. I'll also take credit for the sponge/foam/screen in the PCV hose idea. **
Great job! Glad to hear that you didn't have to spend the big bucks and found a great remedy to a common problem.


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Old 03-14-2015, 01:51 PM
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A few greedy LA BMW dealerships have quoted me over $10k for this job.

I have a 2007 650 BMW and got my Valve Stem Seals done for about $3k and it took 10 business days in the LA Area (Los Feliz)

Ikonic Auto Garage @ (818) 835-1269
4206 Fountain Ave
Los Angeles, CA 90029

These guys are the truth....
Very informative, personable, and competent... If this job done or any other beemer work. Please check them out.
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Old 03-15-2015, 10:41 AM
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Cool... I live in Chino Hills so I'm close I'll check it out
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:22 PM
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Valve stem seals great prices. socal corona.

I just had mine done by ABT Automotive owner's name is Harry! I would highly recommend him in Corona, you will be a happy customer. I love my BMW and he help me changed out my valve stem seals when it was smoking pretty bad. He changed out my valve cover seals, oil pump seals, front cover seals and my car is leak free all for an unbelievable price of $2500 which I doubt you can find anyone who can do it for that price anywhere in SOCAL.
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I may have to try this, car is starting to show signs of oil consumption
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Old 04-22-2016, 01:09 PM
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Highly recommended!

On my car once it started smoking it didnt start gradually it just poured out smoke on every stop I made on the road. I contacted Harry like 3 or 4 days later when it started so it wont mess up my cats. Or else i might jave to spend a few grand once that goes.
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I just had mine done by ABT Automotive owner's name is Harry! I would highly recommend him in Corona, you will be a happy customer. I love my BMW and he help me changed out my valve stem seals when it was smoking pretty bad. He changed out my valve cover seals, oil pump seals, front cover seals and my car is leak free all for an unbelievable price of $2500 which I doubt you can find anyone who can do it for that price anywhere in SOCAL.
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:18 AM
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Hi I have the same problem you had and need a good mechanic that's not gona try to rob me blind do you still have all of your mechanics contact info
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Old 11-10-2016, 08:20 AM
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Anybody know of a good mechanic in the San Diego area that can perform a valve stem replacement job for a fair price
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Anybody know of a good mechanic in the San Diego area that can perform a valve stem replacement job for a fair price

I know one in Orange County if your willing to drive the car to the Huntington Beach area.
He's a friend and he will be doing mine
I think he charges around 2100 to 2300
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Sure do you know his availability by any chance
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Old 11-10-2016, 09:25 AM
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N62 Valve Stem replacement info.

Here is the contact info for Harry in Corona area for your Valve stem work (714) 510-4327 you can call him and get a quote from him?
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Sure do you know his availability by any chance

I can find out for you
If you want you can message me with your number and I'll text you his contact info
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Hi guys. I'm located in Corona (SoCal) and do the whole job on the N62 for $2500. This includes seals, VC gaskets, CCV's, spark plugs and an oil service.

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I am looking for a mechanic who can quote me a fair and honest price (labor only) to remove and replace the engine valve stem seals on my 2005 BMW 645...
Shoot me a PM or give me a call. I can certainly discount the cost of the parts that you supply.

Eric and Rick, thanks for the referrals! -Harry
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Any update looking to get this done I'm also in Los Angeles thanks!
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I need it done on a n64 what would that cost


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I need it done on a n64 what would that cost
May I suggest a Q-tip? Or simply blowing into the cartridge usually works.

Ok seriously now I would say that the answer has already been posted, but seeing as you made a typo, we don't know if you meant N62 (no turbo) or N63 (turbo).
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I have a 2006 bmw 650 that's what I meant sorry to confused anybody


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