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E36 /7 Z3 (1996-2002)
E36/7 Z3 roadster and coupe talk with our gurus here.

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Old 07-19-2003, 06:21 PM
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Requested preliminary mod list

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Old 07-20-2003, 12:51 PM
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Hood Liner Removal

Have you noticed any negative effects from removing the hood blanket? Did you replace it with a thermal shield of any kind?
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:09 PM
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Have you noticed any negative effects from removing the hood blanket?
>>>No. Not yet.

Did you replace it with a thermal shield of any kind?
>>>No.
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:29 PM
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Cool. I was thinking of using some form of self-adhesive insulation in the hood openings lengthwise above the engine. You have any pics of the hood exposed so I can get an idea of the scope of work...
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Old 07-20-2003, 01:42 PM
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Cool. I was thinking of using some form of self-adhesive insulation in the hood openings lengthwise above the engine. You have any pics of the hood exposed so I can get an idea of the scope of work...

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Old 07-20-2003, 01:51 PM
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Thanks, exactly what I wanted to see and more...

BTW, you try the Butt-Strut on your car? It seems I am becoming the evangelist for this mod on the Coupe. It makes an amazing difference in the composure of the car at turn-in and through mid-corner corrections, bumps and surface changes.
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Old 07-20-2003, 02:28 PM
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Thanks, exactly what I wanted to see and more...

BTW, you try the Butt-Strut on your car? It seems I am
becoming the evangelist for this mod on the Coupe. It makes
an amazing difference in the composure of the car at turn-in and through mid-corner corrections, bumps and surface changes.
I look at it as an accident waiting to happen.
The clearances on my coupe unloaded:
Front duct clearance at the bottom of the duct under the front
bumper = 6 inches. Clearance under the front axle support area, bottom of under cover panel 4.25 inches. Clearance under the
lowest point on the differential cover = 6 inches.
I have scratches scuffs on the bottom of my SS exhaust pipes in
the rear axle area. Clearance from the bottom of the pipes is 4.25 inches. All of these measurements are with an empty car. The
butt strut mounts below this area.


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Old 07-20-2003, 03:07 PM
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A better mod would be to change the subframe bushings to something less squishy, no?
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Old 07-20-2003, 03:38 PM
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Ron,

Yeah, the afternmarket pipes would force you to drop the strut down a little extra, but I have the Remus exhaust and have not come close *knocking on wood* to dragging. You do have to change your approach angle on very steep speedbumps so as to not stradle.

Paul offers a satisfaction gaurantee. If you think it'll drag after installing, send it back.

AC,

I would agree for a race car. Solid mounts on a road car would transmit a ton of noise into the cabin. Plus, you would still have the inherent weakness of the vertical pins taking lateral forces. AdamP gave a good example - a table standing on the floor does not wobble because the floor "ties" the legs together, but flip the table over and they'll flex about independently.

The Butt-Strut remedies two things. It adds compression resistance to the bushings because of mounting hardware and it ties the subframe mounts together to allow for load distribution. As AdamP pointed out to me, the subframe crossmember ain;t all that sturdy.

Again, I say give it a shot and take Paul up on the satisfaction gaurantee.
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Old 07-20-2003, 06:24 PM
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Mods

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Preliminary mod list.
Whow.


Time for a break.
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Old 07-20-2003, 06:46 PM
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Ditto.

I'm almost speachless. I'm practically ready to burn some frequent flier miles just to visit Ron and see his car.

Awesome.
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Old 07-20-2003, 08:30 PM
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BTW, you try the Butt-Strut on your car?
What, Stygar put one of Assman's products on his car? That'll be the day.

You've got a better chance of getting a Z4 with red leather and black interior trim.
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Old 07-20-2003, 09:25 PM
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Old 07-20-2003, 09:54 PM
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What, Stygar put one of Assman's products on his car? That'll be the day.
>>>Buddy Holly 8/12/57.
You've got a better chance of getting a Z4 with red leather and black interior trim.
>>>Yep.
Went on the drive (as a passenger) for the cure Saturday with my friend Alan Alfano. We did the Z4 and a 325 convertible along with a 330 coupe if I remember right.
I never liked convertibles/roadsters. The drives Saturday reinforced that feeling.
They would be nice doing the Newport coastal drive, the Blue Ridge parkway or the ME Arcadia park drive. Doing 70>80 on a major highway on a 85 degree day they are not. Based on this experience, I will have to think about buying the MZ-4. If I do, it will have a hard top on it 95% of the time. Hoping that the Z4 coupe rumor comes true.
Now I know why KCSails installs the hardtop in the summer on his Z3.
The Z4 has minimal cowl shake. Pretty quiet with the top up. AC works fine. Stiff suspension. I like it.
The 325 has more shake which is noticeable, but not the Z3 loose as a goose feeling.
The 330 is a nice car if you like cars with a back seat.
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Old 07-21-2003, 01:41 AM
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Whow.


Time for a break.
The break starts Saturday August 23rd. Sort of ends on August 28th.
Non stop, Thursday, Friday and Saturday.
Sunday back on break with lunch. Sunday night dinner at Outback. Monday morning Marriot breakfast with Tim from UK, Sue and Randy Forbes, Al, Vinny, Bob, Courtney, Dale, whoever. Leave for home. September 3rd: Break over.
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Old 07-21-2003, 04:55 AM
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What, Stygar put one of Assman's products on his car? That'll be the day.
Ron or Jon, care to elaborate why?
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Old 07-21-2003, 07:30 AM
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Ron or Jon, care to elaborate why?
No. But if you are happy with the product, it doesn't matter.
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Old 07-21-2003, 10:27 AM
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No. But if you are happy with the product, it doesn't matter.
I am happy with the product, so you're right, it doesn't matter. But I will say that if you sneak a ride in a Coupe with the BS on and you'll probably ask your neighbor to order one for ya in cognito. Heh.
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Old 07-21-2003, 11:49 AM
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I never liked convertibles/roadsters. The drives Saturday reinforced that feeling.
I hear you. The worst feature about the Z4: it's a roadster. I'm kidding. Well, sort of. I was not happy with my 97 Z3 2.8... it was my only car. I got sick of having a roadster all the time. So I sold it. Too much money for less than stellar levels of happiness. But if I could have a coupe of some sort and a Z4, I think I could tolerate the soft roof.

A few things to think about... a Z4 3.0i costs about as much as an X5 3.0i. Also costs about as much as a 330Ci loaded. Which also costs about as much as a 330i ZHP (very cool car there). None of these ars compete against each other really, but the point is you can get a lot of really great cars for about the same price as a Z4. A Z4 is a serious luxury purchase.

A coupe variant would solve all problems.
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You win.
As if there was ever any question.

I can't believe how much you've done since last year. Looking forward to seeing the new additions this year!
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Old 07-21-2003, 04:37 PM
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You win.
As if there was ever any question.

I can't believe how much you've done since last year. Looking forward to seeing the new additions this year!
That's how he keeps his mileage so low!
If Ron keeps his Coupe long enough, even AndyM will have more miles on his
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Old 07-21-2003, 04:40 PM
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Here is my mod list. I made this one up for Bimmerfest in April and had it inside the rear driver's side window.
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Old 07-21-2003, 05:00 PM
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That's how he keeps his mileage so low!
If Ron keeps his Coupe long enough, even AndyM will have more miles on his
He better get driving. I'm at 18,177 now and will be at 20K plus by HC.
Lap top showed up today. The 1920 x 1200 screen resolution is pretty neat.
It will be cutting into my mod time.
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Old 07-22-2003, 10:30 PM
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What about the retrofit of the Euro alarm LED? I didn't see it on the list. I love how you made it fit. I only wish I had the skills to do the same.
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