why are so many so afraid of the hpfp problem?

Originally Posted by KTB13

1% sounds pretty good to me.

The 1% is for a dealer that is located in an area that is fairly arid (12 inches of average annual rainfall), so I wouldn't be uncorking the champagne just yet.

Originally Posted by KTB13

I think if they had extended the warranty (not sure if this includes the '09s though) before I signed my paperwork I would have bought instead.

At this point, the 'extended' warranty on HPFPs is at best alleged - there is nothing that I have seen in writing from BMWNA on the subject. Since I still periodically get mailings from BMWNA on the E93 (even though it was repurchased in January, 2009), I think I would have received something if the warranty on the HPFP of that car (it was a MY 2008) had been extended.

Originally Posted by KTB13

The 335i is an amazing car - and it sounds like the dealers (generally) take pretty good care of their customers so frankly getting a HPFP replaced doesn't sound like the end of the world to me...

Unless you happened to be one of the unlucky ones whose car refused to start.... Bet it would be significantly different then.... Especially if you were stranded on an out-of-town trip....

Originally Posted by anE934fun

The 1% is for a dealer that is located in an area that is fairly arid (12 inches of average annual rainfall), so I wouldn't be uncorking the champagne just yet.

No disrespect intended, but calling the SF area arid -by any measure- sounds like calling arizona summers cold. SF is the fog capital of the world, it may not rain in summer that much, but the condensing fog is just incredible. I would worry more about condensate and relative humidity than inches of rain. Phoenix arizona gets 9" of rain, how does its landscape compare with SF?

Originally Posted by desertdriver

No disrespect intended, but calling the SF area arid -by any measure- sounds like calling arizona summers cold. SF is the fog capital of the world, it may not rain in summer that much, but the condensing fog is just incredible. I would worry more about condensate and relative humidity than inches of rain. Phoenix arizona gets 9" of rain, how does its landscape compare with SF?

The dealer that I purchased the M3 from is not located in the S.F. Bay Area.... Back in 2006 the Bay Area dealers were all in love with their M cars; the most you could get in the way of a discount was $500 off of MSRP. So, I went out of the area to a dealer where my father lives... where the average annual rainfall is 12 inches....

Just returned from having my summer tires put on.

They gave me a printout that said my HPFP was among those that received a warranty extension. New warranty of HPFP is 10yrs, 120k miles, whichever comes first.

FYI

Originally Posted by wouvlfe

my 335, about 4000 miles in, ran into the hpfp problem
(long crank when attempting to start, service engine light came on after car started)

considering its a $50k car...
i was quiet upset, ready to walk into my dealership and start screaming at someone.
then, call BMW NA, and scream at them as well.
then, maybe get an attorney.

BUT, i figured i would start with the dealership, be nice and give them a chance to make it right. so, i described my long cranking problem over the phone, set up an appointment and drove over the next evening.

dropped the car off, got a free loaner.
next day, they call me and inform me that the hpfp has been replaced.
picked up my car that evening.

it runs and sounds like brand new.
ahhh, hearing that low rumble is a soothing sound
moreover, my loaner was a 328 and now i know why i paid about $6k more for the 335

my experience was totally painless...granted if i had any out-of-pocket costs, i would indeed be upset...but it was $0

my question to some of you...why so much concern about the fuel pump since it has a 4 year warranty to start with...and now...it has a 10 year warranty?
have other people had a totally different experience with their hpfp issues?

I am fortunate to have experienced no HPFP problem, but am looking forward to having one. The group of people who have been lured into ordering a 335i, but whose cars have not been delivered yet, have irrational fear of the N54B30 engine fuel delivery system. We have had no first hand experience with the pump of ill fame, but have been exposed to many reports akin to novels by Stephen King, not to live in a state of trepidation. We are grateful for the rational and soothing reports such as yours that temporarily alleviate our concerns.

Originally Posted by Oulixes

The group of people who have been lured into ordering a 335i, but whose cars have not been delivered yet, have irrational fear of the N54B30 engine fuel delivery system. We have had no first hand experience with the pump of ill fame, but have been exposed to many reports akin to novels by Stephen King, not to live in a state of trepidation.

So true. I ordered a 335 coupe today and was so very quite excited about it. I have to say, though, that after I read this thread I found myself second-guessing my decision, particularly since I plan to purchase, rather than lease.

Originally Posted by RG1

So true. I ordered a 335 coupe today and was so very quite excited about it. I have to say, though, that after I read this thread I found myself second-guessing my decision, particularly since I plan to purchase, rather than lease.

+1 - although I'm not second-guessing my decision. I'd take the giddy-up of a 35 over a 28 anyday although both are great cars. I hope I don't have the HPFP problem but if that's the only gripe I have about an otherwise amazing vehicle, then so be it.

The new "cubby hole" behind the gearshift and the front cupholders - now THAT's something to get riled up about!

Originally Posted by wouvlfe

my question to some of you...why so much concern about the fuel pump since it has a 4 year warranty to start with...and now...it has a 10 year warranty?
have other people had a totally different experience with their hpfp issues?

This is why the concern. Situations like this:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252578

Leif W.

I love BMW's full warranty that covers everything.