ZCW Package ???

Ok Ive asked this before and I was corrected "Does the ZCW with ZMP include the headlight washers?" I thought that it did not (CA said so) and a member showed me a pic of a finished ZMP with ZCW that showed the 2 little rectangles on the front bumper where the washers come out of. I wonder if it could be possible that the washer system in a ZMP is inop? I say this because when adding ZCW in a 335 e93 with ZMP the cost of the ZCW package goes from 900 to 750, could someone please explain why this is.

Note: CA has a call into corp. but has not heard back yet.

The headlight washers come on the car automatically if you order an x-drive, regardless of cold weather package. My '09 335 x-drive M-Sport has the washers, and yes they work. I did not order the cold weather package, but instead ordered the folding rear seats and heated front seats separately since it came out $25 cheaper that way. (Don't ask me why.) I don't know if the headlight washers are available with ZMP on a non x-drive, but I can say that it has nothing to do with the aero kit or the ZMP bumper.

Thanks, so if the xDrive has them I don't see why a non xDrive could'nt have them, still there is that price difference ? 900 to 750.

The headlamp washers must be able to work on a ZMP due to European regulations. Vehicles with xenons MUST have headlamp washers to prevent glare, so there's no reason why the M sportpaket would affect the operation of the washers since you can obviously order xenons with ZMP.

Originally Posted by AzNMpower32

The headlamp washers must be able to work on a ZMP due to European regulations. Vehicles with xenons MUST have headlamp washers to prevent glare, so there's no reason why the M sportpaket would affect the operation of the washers since you can obviously order xenons with ZMP.

Correct. The washers are there and do work.

Originally Posted by tr1jr2

Ok Ive asked this before and I was corrected "Does the ZCW with ZMP include the headlight washers?" I thought that it did not (CA said so) and a member showed me a pic of a finished ZMP with ZCW that showed the 2 little rectangles on the front bumper where the washers come out of. I wonder if it could be possible that the washer system in a ZMP is inop? I say this because when adding ZCW in a 335 e93 with ZMP the cost of the ZCW package goes from 900 to 750, could someone please explain why this is.

Note: CA has a call into corp. but has not heard back yet.

The price goes down because the ZCW with ZMP eliminates the heated steering wheel, which lists for......you guessed it, $150.

Originally Posted by tturedraider

The price goes down because the ZCW with ZMP eliminates the heated steering wheel, which lists for......you guessed it, $150.

Ah, you guys are killing me. NOW I realize I could have skipped the ZCW package and just ordered the heated seats and wheel. I don't need the flinking ski bag, and could have saved $100 (and maybe another $150 for the wheel, which I think isn't that useful but my wife thinks is perfect).

FWIW,
George

Originally Posted by Zooks527

Ah, you guys are killing me. NOW I realize I could have skipped the ZCW package and just ordered the heated seats and wheel. I don't need the flinking ski bag, and could have saved $100 (and maybe another $150 for the wheel, which I think isn't that useful but my wife thinks is perfect).

FWIW,
George

Don't feel too bad. It's a little unclear right now whether BMW has recently made the heated steering wheel a stand alone option on the E9x or whether it must come with the ZCW. It is listed on the website as if it is a stand alone option, but I think when it comes down to actually ordering they have to be together. Besides, you got folding rear seats, which is a useful thing to have.

Originally Posted by tturedraider

Besides, you got folding rear seats, which is a useful thing to have.

Oh, no question, but they're standard on the coupe with or without ZCW. And I think you're right - I don't recall ever seeing the heated wheel as a breakout item before the latest website upgrade.

Regarding the seats, there were only 2 absolute "will not give up" items when I started my car search this year - folding rear seats and AWD. Lots of cars out there with AWD. Amazing how many don't come with folding rear seats.

I wanted to try the heated steering wheel since I'll have an e93 but alas I cannot because of the steptronic, which BTW automatically adds the 100$ steering wheel with paddle shifters when ordering the ZMP. I wonder why they can't/won't add heat to this wheel. Thanks for replies.

Originally Posted by tr1jr2

I wanted to try the heated steering wheel since I'll have an e93 but alas I cannot because of the steptronic, which BTW automatically adds the 100$ steering wheel with paddle shifters when ordering the ZMP. I wonder why they can't/won't add heat to this wheel. Thanks for replies.

It's not the steptronic. It's the steering wheel itself. The M Sport steering wheel they use with the ZMP just isn't designed as a heated wheel.

Originally Posted by 767jetz

The headlight washers come on the car automatically if you order an x-drive, regardless of cold weather package. My '09 335 x-drive M-Sport has the washers, and yes they work. I did not order the cold weather package, but instead ordered the folding rear seats and heated front seats separately since it came out $25 cheaper that way. (Don't ask me why.) I don't know if the headlight washers are available with ZMP on a non x-drive, but I can say that it has nothing to do with the aero kit or the ZMP bumper.

Did you post any photos of your car on the ED forum? I couldn't find a thread. You did meet the 12 hour rule didn't you?
I pick mine up in about a week adn wanted to look at some photos.