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Old 05-01-2009, 10:07 PM
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Is there anyway to deactivate the active cruise control on a 2009 328i so that it operates like a normal cruise control (does not automatically adjust for cars ahead)? It doesn't look like I can do that in the manual. Thanks.
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:11 AM
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:12 AM
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What happens if you just cover the radar sensor? Will it refuse to engage?
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Old 05-02-2009, 06:30 AM
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I think that I will just set it to the minimum distance so it is unlikely to disengage the cruise control before I do. I'm not sure what would happen if I covered the sensor. I hope I wouldn't have some error message blazing on the dash.
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Old 05-02-2009, 01:06 PM
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I always set mine to a minimum.
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Old 05-02-2009, 02:26 PM
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I don't think the system would engage if you disable the sensor. Covering it may be tricky. I covered it with tape to protect it during a track event. I forgot to take the tape off and it still worked. (perhaps with a metal based tape?).

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Old 05-03-2009, 08:30 AM
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After all that I discovered that I don't have active cruise control. Time for the dunce cap - duh. I had assumed that all 328i's were so equipped. I'm relieved as it would have been extremely annoying. Thank goodness it's optional. That said, the operation of the cruise control is ergonomically just about perfect. It works beautifully and I love being able to set the speed so precisely. The more I drive my new BMW, the more I love it.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:15 AM
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To those who don't have it, I think it's a great option! In fact, I never used to bother with cruise control until I had this car. The constant speed adjustments (up, up up, down, down, down) or hitting the brakes, then having to reset it, etc, drove me crazy. With adaptive cruise, I can use it all the time - even on crowded highways. It isn't annoying at all. In fact, compared to regular cruise, it's just the opposite.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:17 AM
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And I can understand why BWM doesn't give you the option to deactivate it (and make it work like standard cruise). Say you forgot you deactived the adaptive setting. That could be bad. You could be gaining on a car, not thinking to hit the brakes or adjust the speed. I guess eventually you'd wake up and realize that you had deactivated the adaptive setting, but I could see how that could be dangerous.
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Old 05-03-2009, 09:41 AM
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And I can understand why BWM doesn't give you the option to deactivate it (and make it work like standard cruise). Say you forgot you deactived the adaptive setting. That could be bad. You could be gaining on a car, not thinking to hit the brakes or adjust the speed. I guess eventually you'd wake up and realize that you had deactivated the adaptive setting, but I could see how that could be dangerous.
I agree completely with this. I had adaptive on my '04 and loved it. The only problem was when I would drive my other car, a rental or the occasional loner I would be expecting the same results and would sometimes approach uncomfortably close to vehicles ahead before applying the brakes. Since my wife, son and I frequently swap vehicles, we all noticed the problem. Because of this when we traded for the '08 we opted not to get the adaptive. Someday when it is available on all vehicles, we'll get it again as it is a great feature.
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Old 05-03-2009, 04:45 PM
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Personally I'm quite happy to have 'normal' cruise control. I don't use it when the road is crowded. And the system is so intuitive to use, it is easy to activate and reactivate as needed. I prefer to have control of the system rather than leave it to the car. It might be interesting to try the adaptive cruise control but I don't think that I would want to order it.
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Old 05-03-2009, 06:02 PM
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I wouldn't have ordered it as an option if I bought the car new as it is a $2500 option - ouch!

However, to my knowledge, the adaptive controls work just like regular cruise. The only difference is you don't have to manually adjust it down (or step on the brake) when a slow car moves in front of you. I know the lack of control feeling you are talking about and I don't like that feeling either. But if anything, I feel less in control with regular cruise than I do with adaptive cruise.

I remember I used to make a game out of it... Say you are gaining on a guy, waiting for him to move over. How long do you wait until you give up and hit the brake or adjust the cruise speed? It was almost like playing chicken with my cruise. The sensation of the car gaining on another car while your foot rests on the floor is a bit unnerving (lack of control). Now that I have adaptive cruise I don't have to deal with that anymore. Or if I want to be in total control, I can always cancel it, or step on the brake - just like regular cruise.
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Old 05-06-2009, 12:04 PM
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I like it very much. It makes cruise control finally practical to use on highways with other traffic, as opposed to only on roads with no traffic ever in front of me.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:43 PM
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My only grip about the ACC is that event the shortest following setting isn't close enough to the car in front of you. Here in So Cal, I still get people cutting in front of me with the closest setting.

There needs to be a "tailgating" setting.
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Old 05-06-2009, 03:46 PM
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Some of you are mixing up adaptive cruise control with active cruise control. All our cars have adaptive cruise control (it will brake gently when going down a hill). The active cruise control is the one with the radar.
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Old 05-06-2009, 05:01 PM
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My only grip about the ACC is that event the shortest following setting isn't close enough to the car in front of you. Here in So Cal, I still get people cutting in front of me with the closest setting.

There needs to be a "tailgating" setting.
Agree - the closest setting is still about 5 car lengths back. It's far enough that I have the same issue as you. People cut in front, then the cruise adapts, pushing me even further back allowing room for yet another car to cut in front.

I have a feeling this setting is that way for safety (read liability) reasons.
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Old 05-06-2009, 09:22 PM
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Agree - the closest setting is still about 5 car lengths back. It's far enough that I have the same issue as you. People cut in front, then the cruise adapts, pushing me even further back allowing room for yet another car to cut in front.
Besides the ridiculous cost, this is the main reason I didn't get it on mine.
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Old 05-07-2009, 04:30 AM
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I'm 99% sure i dont have this option / would have noticed, but for future reference how exactly can you tell you have it? Where is/are the sensor(s) and what do they look like? Sorry for a stupid question , Tried to google it and only saw the park sensors(unless they work two ways).
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I'm 99% sure i dont have this option / would have noticed, but for future reference how exactly can you tell you have it? Where is/are the sensor(s) and what do they look like? Sorry for a stupid question , Tried to google it and only saw the park sensors(unless they work two ways).
Well, when you turn on your cruise control you'd see something like this on the dash:



And your front bumper will have this black round sensor slightly to the left of center:

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Besides the ridiculous cost, this is the main reason I didn't get it on mine.
How can the cost be justified? Does that sensor cost BMW anywhere near $2500?
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...People cut in front, then the cruise adapts, pushing me even further back allowing room for yet another car to cut in front.
That and the cost was why I didn't consider it. I've found the +1/-1 and the +5/-5 taps on the regular cruise control to be very useful and easy to use.
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Besides the ridiculous cost...
I didn't buy the car new. It happened to be installed on the CPO I purchased a few months ago - and I didn't mind.

But I agree. $2500 is insane and I would never have checked that option box if I bought the car new.
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How can the cost be justified? Does that sensor cost BMW anywhere near $2500?
BMW and Mercedes use a more complicated and sophisticated (of course) radar-based system, versus the simpler laser-based systems that Toyota/Lexus and Nissan/Infiniti use. Still, this feature is worth $1000 at most. Infiniti bundles their system with adaptive lighting and pre-crash seatbelts in the Tech Package on the G for $1,150. BMW (and M-B) really need to come back down to earth on this feature.

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But I agree. $2500 is insane and I would never have checked that option box if I bought the car new.
I'm actually still amazed that BMW offers Active Cruise in combination with a manual transmission. I wouldn't be surprised if they're the only one out there.
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That and the cost was why I didn't consider it. I've found the +1/-1 and the +5/-5 taps on the regular cruise control to be very useful and easy to use.
+1. (Or should I say +/1 and +/-5). I drive "with my hands only" for looong stretches on the highway. If you give two -5 inputs in a row, the car will slow down pretty quickly. Works quite well, actually.
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After all that I discovered that I don't have active cruise control. Time for the dunce cap - duh. I had assumed that all 328i's were so equipped. I'm relieved as it would have been extremely annoying. Thank goodness it's optional. That said, the operation of the cruise control is ergonomically just about perfect. It works beautifully and I love being able to set the speed so precisely. The more I drive my new BMW, the more I love it.
Thanks for reminding me of the one thing that I really like about this car.

This implementation of a cruise control system is spot on. The only niggle I have is the resume switch effort could be a little lower...picky I am!

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