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Old 07-23-2009, 08:50 AM
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In preparation for my lease i've done my homework and computed some figures that i expect to see or close to it on my final lease. I'm open for any suggestions as to where i should be a little flexible, where to watchout for dealership mathetical tricks or where to save some money. I'm thinking about doing MSD but i heard it maybe hard to get it back at lease end.
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I prefer this site:
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My 36 month lease (12k mi. per year) is approx. $1550/mo. before tax. That is based on a total of $4000 drive away costs.

If you were to also do $4000 drive-away (inc. all fees), with 10k mi. per year, I calculate your lease would be approx. $1495/mo. before tax.
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Ok. I'll recalculate based on $4k drive-away cost and compare. I'll also use the leaseguide calculator and see how that comes up.
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Monthly Payment: $1593.47
including tax?

what was the total drive-off amount?
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yes including tax. total drive off is something like $3800. i havent taken delivery yet so i dont remember what my SA told me.
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yes including tax. total drive off is something like $3800. i havent taken delivery yet so i dont remember what my SA told me.
Why is your service advisor involved in the transaction?
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Why is your service advisor involved in the transaction?
I'm pretty sure he meant CA, but probably thinking "Sales Associate", or "Sales Advisor", etc...
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I'm pretty sure he meant CA, but probably thinking "Sales Associate", or "Sales Advisor", etc...
Could very well be but here SA has only one meaning, while CA could also mean comfort access.
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Hayden,

When you drop off your car, can you let me know if they allow you remove the front and maybe the rear license plate(s)?
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When you drop off your car, can you let me know if they allow you remove the front and maybe the rear license plate(s)?
What are you asking? Both plates must remain on the car at drop-off.
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Hayden,

When you drop off your car, can you let me know if they allow you remove the front and maybe the rear license plate(s)?
J is right. New rule as of July 1. Both plates have to stay on. Based on other posts I think there is a 99% chance we will get them back with the car.

Just to be safe, I will be putting this attachment on the front passenger seat.
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J is right. New rule as of July 1. Both plates have to stay on. Based on other posts I think there is a 99% chance we will get them back with the car.

Just to be safe, I will be putting this attachment on the front passenger seat.
I don't remember if it was the front or the back, but we got to take one of the plates with us (and the Germany-required First Aid kit, too). The other plate was delivered with the car.
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I guess i'll take my chance and remove the from license plat and if they ask me to put it back on then i'll do so. Also, I'll inform my dealership i want to keep the license plate and hopefully it'll arrive with the car and they will give it to me.
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I guess i'll take my chance and remove the from license plat and if they ask me to put it back on then i'll do so. Also, I'll inform my dealership i want to keep the license plate and hopefully it'll arrive with the car and they will give it to me.
When we dropped the car off, the guy who checked it in was very helpful. He told us what we could take, etc. He's the one who reminded us about the First Aid kit and the emergency triangle that, I guess, are requirements for driving in Germany.
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I guess i'll take my chance and remove the from license plat and if they ask me to put it back on then i'll do so.
Really bad idea. Have you not spent any time in Germany or spent time dealing with Germans? They have a fondness for rules and this is not only a rule, but the law of the land.
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Really bad idea.
I agree. They will almost certainly ask you to put it back on. Don't worry about it... you'll get the plates.
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I'll just leave the plates on there and wait patiently :-) for delivery.
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Great information guys. Almost convinced me to lease instead of buying~
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I need some advise or help in making a decision. Swaplease.com and Leasetrader.com are all offering to list my car on their site so someone can take over my lease because the $1408.86 a month is a sweet deal compare to the $1550 plus deals they currently have for 09 750Li's.

It look like i'm not gonna recoop any of my downpayment unless i try to sell it on ebay or Autotrader.com. 09 750Li's similar to mine with the same options (some with more miles than mine) are selling anywhere between $92 and $98k on ebay.

On the other hand, my CA/Dealership (i'm dealing with a new CA/Dealership now) has agreed for me to trade-in the car so i can get into the lease for my ED. According to BMWFS, the pay off amount is approximately $86k which means the CA or dealership SHOULDN'T roll anything into my new lease since the car is definitely worth more than $86k and if anything should give me some money back (fingers cross) but i'll definitely loose all my $26k downpayment.

What should i do?

1) Have someone takeover the lease (i have to pay some fees for the take over)

2) Try to sell it on ebay or Autotrader.com (hopefully make some $$ and pay off my lease)

3) Trade-in (and pray the dealership give me $86k or more so nothing is roll into my new lease)

4) Seek other options (i don't know what else to do. i'm open to suggestions)

Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions you can offer.
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I need some advise or help in making a decision. Swaplease.com and Leasetrader.com are all offering to list my car on their site so someone can take over my lease because the $1408.86 a month is a sweet deal compare to the $1550 plus deals they currently have for 09 750Li's.

It look like i'm not gonna recoop any of my downpayment unless i try to sell it on ebay or Autotrader.com. 09 750Li's similar to mine with the same options (some with more miles than mine) are selling anywhere between $92 and $98k on ebay.

On the other hand, my CA/Dealership (i'm dealing with a new CA/Dealership now) has agreed for me to trade-in the car so i can get into the lease for my ED. According to BMWFS, the pay off amount is approximately $86k which means the CA or dealership SHOULDN'T roll anything into my new lease since the car is definitely worth more than $86k and if anything should give me some money back (fingers cross) but i'll definitely loose all my $26k downpayment.

What should i do?

1) Have someone takeover the lease (i have to pay some fees for the take over)

2) Try to sell it on ebay or Autotrader.com (hopefully make some $$ and pay off my lease)

3) Trade-in (and pray the dealership give me $86k or more so nothing is roll into my new lease)

4) Seek other options (i don't know what else to do. i'm open to suggestions)

Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions you can offer.
Just so we understand, why did you put $26000 down on a lease and why are you replacing the 09 so quickly?
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I left both of my plates on my car at drop off. They were still on the car at delivery 6 weeks later. I did remove and take with me the first aid kit and triangle. These were replaced at the VDC with the US version, which was not a good as the German kit. Now I have both. I put the US kit in another car.
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I need some advise or help in making a decision. Swaplease.com and Leasetrader.com are all offering to list my car on their site so someone can take over my lease because the $1408.86 a month is a sweet deal compare to the $1550 plus deals they currently have for 09 750Li's.

It look like i'm not gonna recoop any of my downpayment unless i try to sell it on ebay or Autotrader.com. 09 750Li's similar to mine with the same options (some with more miles than mine) are selling anywhere between $92 and $98k on ebay.

On the other hand, my CA/Dealership (i'm dealing with a new CA/Dealership now) has agreed for me to trade-in the car so i can get into the lease for my ED. According to BMWFS, the pay off amount is approximately $86k which means the CA or dealership SHOULDN'T roll anything into my new lease since the car is definitely worth more than $86k and if anything should give me some money back (fingers cross) but i'll definitely loose all my $26k downpayment.

What should i do?

1) Have someone takeover the lease (i have to pay some fees for the take over)

2) Try to sell it on ebay or Autotrader.com (hopefully make some $$ and pay off my lease)

3) Trade-in (and pray the dealership give me $86k or more so nothing is roll into my new lease)

4) Seek other options (i don't know what else to do. i'm open to suggestions)

Thanks in advance for any help/suggestions you can offer.
asaseaban - I'm confused. Do you own a car now, or are you leasing? Please clarify.
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I've always purchased my 7er and since i was getting into a new 7er almost every 3/4 years i thought it'll be best to lease. Somehow, when i was doing the paper work for my current lease i was still under the impression of financing (yes, believe it or not but all i was thinking of financing terms even though i was leasing) and thought paying for my taxes and fees upfront and also trading in my 745Li (paid with title in hand) will help minimize the down payment. Furthermore, i thought when i traded the car in after 3/4 years i'll get some of the money back or i could just sell it and use the money for another 7er or just keep the car.

Yes i'll admit this is all my fault because i was clueless about leasing and having a lower monthly payment (for finance) was preferrable, hence the $26 downpayment.

So to answer your question, i put down $26k to minimize my monthly payment for "financing" the vehicle and not lease it. Secondly, i wanted several other options that i didn't have and when i findout about the ED program and how i could get all the options i wanted for $12k less than what i currently have i decided to take it.

I'm only getting rid of my current 09 750Li so i can get into another 750Li with more options and pay almost the same monthly payment as i'm currently paying.

I sign for a 42 months with 35k miles lease that was presented to me and i didn't question anything because financing and leasing had blur together in my mind.

Basically i got into something that i didn't know anything about and i got screwed. I'm willing to take my losses and get the car with the options that i really wanted.
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