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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 03-13-2012, 06:02 PM
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Question 17" Wheels style 5

I want to put new tires on my 17" wheels style 5 for my 99 528i M-sport suspension:
Front tires 245/45 R17
Rear tires 265/40 R17

Any issues or concerns, does anybody have or had these tires?
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Old 03-13-2012, 06:09 PM
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I dont have them but I think 265 is a little too wide for the wheel.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:20 PM
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I dont have them but I think 265 is a little too wide for the wheel.
Yea I agree. 255 might be a good way to go.. I have 17s but i stayed on 245s all around.
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Old 03-13-2012, 08:01 PM
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I agree with what has been said by others that 265 is too wide for an 8" wide wheel. So unless you have the 17x9 style 5s it might not be a good idea. Depending on the tire and sidewall height 255s not work either. Best bet would be to look up the specific tire and size you are interested in on the tirerack's website and see the specs.

Go here then click on specs for example
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....CDWS&tab=Sizes

Continental DWS specs
255/40/17 says rim width should be 8.5"-10"
255/45/17 says rim width should be 8"-9.5"
There is not 265 in 17 combo available it jumps from 255 to 275.

Also I assume you are aware, but if you stick with a square set up you can rotate your tires front to back and get some more wear out of them. You lose that ability with a staggered set up.
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Old 03-13-2012, 09:21 PM
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On E39 Sport Package cars with 8-inch Style 5s, the standard tire size was 235/45/17.
You could go up *one size* on that rim width without repercussions, which would put you at 245/40/17, a pretty healthy size. I wouldn`t attempt 255s (or larger), you`re likely to have problems.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:28 AM
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On E39 Sport Package cars with 8-inch Style 5s, the standard tire size was 235/45/17.
You could go up *one size* on that rim width without repercussions, which would put you at 245/40/17, a pretty healthy size. I wouldn`t attempt 255s (or larger), you`re likely to have problems.
Agreed. I also vote for a 245/40/17 all around. The sidewall will be a tad smaller than the stock tire size and the circumference will be smaller as well but that's a good thing.

http://mcgrefer.com/sizeinfo/2354517

http://mcgrefer.com/query/?s=size+2454017
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:33 AM
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They will rub on the front shocks without spacers with the sizes you mentioned. Also why the heck are you going wider then stock? The car can't even do a burnout when floored off a light. There heavier also wich will reduce fuel economy. They will be worse in the winter. If you look on other forums most people put smaller tires on there for asthetic reasons. Shorter sidewall, tire somewhat streched to help with rubbing so you can run spacers to make the wheels flush with the fender. Here is a thread with good pictures and style 5 information. No one is running truck tires like you are thinking.

http://www.stanceworks.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4899
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:35 AM
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And I say they will rub because the PO I bought my car off of had the same idea you had. Both front tires blew out from rubbing on the shock.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:41 AM
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Wider tires arent just for straight line acceleration. If you have traction control ON then no it wouldnt do a burnout at a light(which why the hell would you do that anyway?)

The E39 can use wide rubber unlike that link you posted with those cars using rubber bands on their rims. the PO blew out his shocks from rubbing? What were the tire sizes? He probably got a really tall tire. some poeple put 265/35/18s on the front with a tiny 3mm spacer on a 9.5" wide wheel!
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:17 AM
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96 GGM 528I has a major point: as you increase tire size, you increase unsprung weight, which degrades handling.

That's also a strong reason for using OEM wheels: they are very well-made, and the suspension is designed for the weight of the tire/wheel combo. Unless you pay Big Bucks for aftermarket wheels, they will typically be heavier than OEM.

As I understand it, BMW offers staggered setups to increase understeer, in deference to the lawyers.

BTW, the rule of thumb for matching super low-profile tires and wheels is that the wheel width s/b no less than 80-90% of the tire cross-section. Thus, an 8 inch wheel would be 87% of a 235-section tire.

Of course, the need for Bling cancels the above statement, and makes it irrelevant.
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Old 03-14-2012, 10:23 AM
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The suspension is designed for the weight of the car. Hence why springs/shocks for a 540i won't work on a 528 or 530.

Also OEM wheels are very heavy, especially multi-piece wheels. The 245/40 tire is wider BUT less sidewall and smaller circumference than the 235/45, I posted links comparing the dimensions of both tire sizes. Weight is probably the same between those sizes.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:10 PM
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Also when you strech a tire and put a wide tire on a narrow rim it handles like poop. the side wall rolls more because it is already streched. Like i said if u want a truck tire on your car fine but it will look like garbage. Also the PO of my car blew out tires running 245/45/17 tires from them rubbing the shocks. Heavier tires make your car stop worse and rolling weight is 1lb rolling is roughly 8lb static. More weight to slow=poorer performance. Fuel economy due to weight, and accleration due to weight. So basically now your car looks like crap and handles and stops like crap. A 8 page or so thread on Stanceworks doesnt lie.
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245/45/17 is a TALL tire, no wonder he was rubbing. And no offense but those guys on stanceworks only care about looks. a 40 sidewall doesnt look like a truck tire especially on a 235 or 245 17" tire. the 40 means the sidewall is 40% size of the width of the tire.

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=847213

read that about handling and size difference before reading anything on stanceworks.

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Old 03-14-2012, 12:25 PM
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Also in that stanceworks link, those guys NEED to run skinny tires and/or fender rolling with the style 5's. The offset on the style 5s is too low for E36/E34 cars.
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Old 03-14-2012, 12:50 PM
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FYI I run a staggered set up, OEM wheels 17x8 F 17x9 R.

My tires are 235/45/17 F and 255/40/17 R

Also this: "Also OEM wheels are very heavy, especially multi-piece wheels" is simply inaccurate. 2 piece bolted cross spokes (made by BBS) are extremely lightweight in OEM (17") sizing. OEM wheels are almost always lighter than crappy AM wheels. Lightweight AM wheels are typically as expensive or more expensive than OEM.

Short answer: 265 is too wide.
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I have 235\45\17. I don't think anyone's saying those don't fit. I mean do what you want. I wish I got narrower tires for my style 5 wheels. I was just saying that from experience. As for e36 guys running them the do run spacers for them to fit there hubs. I have 20 mm spacers on mine with the tire size I mentioned. Its flush and looks OK. I think other cars on the forum look better. I was just posting what I thought looks good. Not trying to start an argument. But fat staggered tires on narrow rims looks stupid and will not increase performance.
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I wish I had the staggered style 5 wheels. Saw a set the other day somewhere. Bad ass
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Old 03-14-2012, 01:55 PM
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FYI I run a staggered set up, OEM wheels 17x8 F 17x9 R.

My tires are 235/45/17 F and 255/40/17 R

Also this: "Also OEM wheels are very heavy, especially multi-piece wheels" is simply inaccurate. 2 piece bolted cross spokes (made by BBS) are extremely lightweight in OEM (17") sizing. OEM wheels are almost always lighter than crappy AM wheels. Lightweight AM wheels are typically as expensive or more expensive than OEM.

Short answer: 265 is too wide.
Agree. Also there are some oem forged wheels that are lightweight like style 37 (M Parallels).

Getting back to tire size is it even physically possible to mount a 265 tire on an 17x8" wide rim? Or you can mount it, but it is just outside the tire manufacturers preferred specs?
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These are 17x8 & 17 x9 w/ 245/45/17 & 275/40/17 on stock sports suspension...no rubbing anywhere

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These are 17x8 & 17 x9 w/ 245/45/17 & 275/40/17 on stock sports suspension...no rubbing anywhere

Front to rr:


rr to front:
Nice. Personally I like the look of the wider rubber in the rear. 9 inches is a good aggressive stance IMO. I do understand the issue about some people not liking the staggered setup due to the inability to rotate, but I only put a few thousand miles a year on my car, so my tires last forever. If I drove more, I would not run staggered.

YMMV of course.
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Old 03-14-2012, 06:39 PM
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Well my car has the OEM tire size of 235/45 R17 in front and rear. I can run OEM staggered tire size 235/45 R17 for the fronts and 255/40 R17 for the rears. That is on the information placard on the frame. Thanks to you all that have posted and answered my question. I would stay with the OEM set up of 235/45
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I am currently running 235/45 r17 in the front on 8 inch wide rims and 255/40 r17 in the rear on wide 9 inch parallel 66 rims of e39 with Sport Suspension II.

Can I use 255/45 r17 instead of 255/40 r17 for the rear?
I found a new pair of Goodyear EAGLE ULTRA GRIP GW3 winter tires for a good price from one guy and think whether i should buy them or stick with 255/40.

the diameter will change from 25" to 26" (+4%)

Sidewall will change from 4" to 4.5" (+12.5%)

Will it look ok and not rub anywhere?
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I want to put new tires on my 17" wheels style 5 for my 99 528i M-sport suspension:
Front tires 245/45 R17
Rear tires 265/40 R17

Any issues or concerns, does anybody have or had these tires?
Here are some 265 40 17's. The rim width range that is recommended is: 9"-10.5".

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/TireSe...earDiameter=17
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I am currently running 235/45 r17 in the front on 8 inch wide rims and 255/40 r17 in the rear on wide 9 inch parallel 66 rims of e39 with Sport Suspension II.

Can I use 255/45 r17 instead of 255/40 r17 for the rear?
I found a new pair of Goodyear EAGLE ULTRA GRIP GW3 winter tires for a good price from one guy and think whether i should buy them or stick with 255/40.

the diameter will change from 25" to 26" (+4%)

Sidewall will change from 4" to 4.5" (+12.5%)

Will it look ok and not rub anywhere?
255's are fine in the rear. That's what I'm running now and it's not a tight fit. I could've gone larger, but my rims are maxed out with the 255's. Mine are also exactly 26.1" in dia. Looks good. If you're adding 1" to the overall diameter from the stockers, you speedo will read slightly slower, I believe, maybe 3 MPH or so, just a guesstimate.
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