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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 06-09-2009, 05:22 PM
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Do you have a crack in your wood CD cover?

Not a big issue but something I was curious about. I have a decent crack in the varnish on my tilting wood CD cover (it came that way when I bought it) and have noticed several other people posting of the same problem. I have not seen this issue on any other wood trim part. This seems like a very weird problem and I was just wondering if this is a problem that is common to other e39s? Also wondering how does a part like this crack when it does not undergo any stress or loading?


BTW, if anyone has an uncracked Vavona wood CD cover they are looking to sell, PM me. The dealers charge over $80 and I'd rather tilt the door up.
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Old 06-09-2009, 05:28 PM
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Most of my trim parts have small cracks. Doesnt really bother me but I do wonder how it happened.
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Old 06-10-2009, 06:51 AM
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Yes, I do too

I also have a crack in the center console near the shifter. They both really bother me but not enough to spend $200.00 to replace all that trim.

I was just reading over some of the "painted trim" posts and started to wonder if there is any way of repairing the cracks and then giving the trim a nice paint job (which I've been wanting to do anyway). I think some filler, good even sanding, then a few coats of primer might do the trick. Any other suggestions on a good method for filling the cracks?
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:24 AM
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2003 525i here and have the hairline crack in the CD cover and in the console near the shift. Other trim is fine.
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Old 06-10-2009, 08:41 AM
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Yes, I do too
Me too. I never even use the Business CD and the cover cracks on its own!

I even had the original BMW Business CD cover replaced, under warranty, due to a long vertical crack. The dealership didn't argue with me so I assume they know something we don't know.

Guess what. The NEW CD cover is already cracked (see this picture taken for the DICE thread).

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Old 06-10-2009, 08:53 AM
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Mine does also... not a biggie but its there
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Old 06-10-2009, 09:15 AM
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We're not talking hairline cracks here. My crack is fairly significant, like someone tried to break the cover in two. Yet there is no bend in the cover. It just baffles me that something can catastrophically break like that when no load applied.

Depending on the severity of your crack, I don't think it is repairable for painting as the crack could grow. Mine actually has a slight gap in the varnish/plastic veneer.
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:17 AM
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I was thinking of removing and installing a nav (from a newer year) since i have a tape player. That is one option, or maybe (if you're a diy buff) sand down the clear coat and reapply .
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:33 AM
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Me too. I never even use the Business CD and the cover cracks on its own!
Haha...that is exactly where mine lil crack is...and I never use it too. Also, thats exactly where I put my ipod too.
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:03 AM
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Me too. I never even use the Business CD and the cover cracks on its own!

I even had the original BMW Business CD cover replaced, under warranty, due to a long vertical crack. The dealership didn't argue with me so I assume they know something we don't know.

Guess what. The NEW CD cover is already cracked (see this picture taken for the DICE thread).

Hey Blue. I've been wanting to do an iPod hookup to my '98 528i. Did you do yours yourself or did you take it somewhere? if you had it professionally done, how much did it cost?
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:17 AM
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Yeah, I have a crack on the CD flip door as well as two cracks near the shifter. It boggles my mind to think about how such an expensive piece of trim like the one around the shifter can be damaged so easily. At least make a $20-30 replacement piece of varnished wood that you can pop out and replace!

Don't get me started on the durability of interior BMW parts...
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:18 AM
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Not a big issue but something I was curious about. I have a decent crack in the varnish on my tilting wood CD cover (it came that way when I bought it) and have noticed several other people posting of the same problem. I have not seen this issue on any other wood trim part. This seems like a very weird problem and I was just wondering if this is a problem that is common to other e39s? Also wondering how does a part like this crack when it does not undergo any stress or loading?


BTW, if anyone has an uncracked Vavona wood CD cover they are looking to sell, PM me. The dealers charge over $80 and I'd rather tilt the door up.
I know EXACTLY why these cracks appear with no apparent cause......

Only few people know this but I will share it with all who wish to know.

When BMW started building the E39 body 5 series, they did such a superb job mechanically that the engine combined with the aerodynamics of the body cause an unforeseen side effect.

As you go faster, the vehicle manages to make a slight tear through the space / time continuum and as a result, the vehicle and it's occupants momentarily cross into a parallel universe and back into our own...

While the occupants don't feel the difference, the travel between the two universes causes the vehicle to temporarily shift its shape on a molecular level before returning to it's original form, causing the "mystery" cracks.

If THAT DOESN'T EXPLAIN IT......I don't know WHAT will!!!
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Old 06-11-2009, 10:25 AM
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Funny that you say that

I removed my cracked center console to fix the crack and found this:
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Don't get me started on the durability of interior BMW parts...
Me neither! Just look at these crummy painted seat covers! I wrote up a DIY for others to benefit here.


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Old 06-11-2009, 10:33 AM
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I've been wanting to do an iPod hookup to my '98 528i. Did you do yours yourself ... how much did it cost?
I did it myself & wrote an iPod installation DIY so others could follow in our footsteps.

Parts cost is $150; labor is love.

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Old 06-11-2009, 10:34 AM
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I removed my cracked center console to fix the crack and found this:
You have a Flux Capacitor too!!!?! First Doc Brown jacks my design and puts it in a crappy DeLorean, then my own BROTHER steals my spare uinit...

He must have sold it to BMW and they replicated it and installed it nto all their cars!

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Old 06-11-2009, 10:45 AM
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I removed my cracked center console to fix the crack and found this:
To see the Flux capacitor in action....just scroll to the 2:42 min mark on this clip and watch.

THIS is the cause of all those cracks that I mentioned in my post earlier

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Old 06-11-2009, 01:02 PM
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We're not talking hairline cracks here. My crack is fairly significant, like someone tried to break the cover in two. Yet there is no bend in the cover. It just baffles me that something can catastrophically break like that when no load applied.

Depending on the severity of your crack, I don't think it is repairable for painting as the crack could grow. Mine actually has a slight gap in the varnish/plastic veneer.
Ive never heard of it being that bad, do you have any pictures of it?
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:05 PM
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Well... OK, I exagerated a bit. But it is not a hairline crack. It looks like someone deliberately tried to break it.
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Old 06-11-2009, 03:13 PM
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Well... OK, I exagerated a bit. But it is not a hairline crack. It looks like someone deliberately tried to break it.
That looks like it was scraped....like something is sticking out above the door inside your dash, and it rubbed the wood finish every time you opened / closed it. Check and see if perhaps a broken piece of plastic on the inside of your dash above the door may have caused this?

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Old 06-11-2009, 03:58 PM
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Come to think of it, the original crack, which as I remember it was about an inch and a half long (or so), was just about in that spot too. I'll see if I can dig up a picture of it (but that was a couple of years ago and I have tens of thousands of pictures to wade through to find it).

Mine was hairline. Just long and straight, and about in that spot.

Methinks BMW knows something we don't ...

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Old 06-12-2009, 10:03 AM
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That looks like it was scraped....like something is sticking out above the door inside your dash, and it rubbed the wood finish every time you opened / closed it. Check and see if perhaps a broken piece of plastic on the inside of your dash above the door may have caused this?
No, it's not a scrape and there is nothing causing interference as I have disassembled the tilting door. You can't really tell from the picture but that discoloration is actually the crack. The plastic/varnish coating is fairly thick and my crack angles across the thickness, creating the discoloration. It is actually split and you can slide a piece of paper between the two sides of the crack. I have never seem plastic or varnish crack like that. But judging from the many cracks (although mostly hairline) people are having, cracking of the finish is not an uncommon occurance.
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Hi. Yeah, I may have understated it a little--mine is a more than a hairline crack--it does go from the top to the bottom of the cd door and there's another one across the shift console, too. I mentioned it to my indy and he sees a lot of it so he was pretty laid back about it and didn't think it was a big deal. Just said the car was probably parked in the sun a lot and apparently this can cause cracks to occur. It's just that the rest of the interior is in very good shape -- that the cracks seem to jump out at me. I'm trying to live with it but I know me and I probably will try to replace the cracked parts. The wood trim on the driver's side front and rear got very hazy? I did find 2 used trim pieces in better shape and have replaced them with good results. My indy said this 'hazing' is common too, and he said probably sun damage as well.
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Old 06-13-2009, 11:31 PM
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mine is a more than a hairline crack--it does go from the top to the bottom of the cd door and there's another one across the shift console, too.
I have a similar crack just above the glovebox on my 2002 E39.

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