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Old 01-23-2012, 01:15 PM
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Going up to the H&R Sports for comfort reasons, huh? That makes sense. If you're selling your Bilsteins, what shocks are you going to be using?
Koni Yellow Adjustables. I got a set from my buddy's track car for like $300, couldn't say no.
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:15 PM
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Thanks, I'm pretty pumped.

Consequently, I will have a set of TR Motorsport MT1-R 17x9s with 245/40/17 Yoko S-Drives about half used up for sale pretty soon. Wheel condition when clean, 9/10. Only cosmetic damage is one, 1in long curb mark and socket scrapes around the lug holes. Asking $1100

I'll also have a set of Bilsteins and H&R Races. Condition, functioning and not blown out. Mileage ???. Less than 170k, more than 30k. My overall impression of these things would be that its the absolute best bang for your buck to make your car pretty damn low and handle pretty damn well. Ride comfort and shock travel? Forgeddaboutit. $350.

Haven't taken anything off or gotten pictures yet, or listed anything, but you guys get first dibs.
I'm actually in the market for a new suspension setup and I'm interested if they're still in decent condition.

It is for a DD, though. Do you think it's DD-able? I don't mind a stiff ride, but I don't want to be bending wheels and making passengers sick. The roads around me are actually pretty good, though.


edit: argh nevermind, I forgot they're for an M3
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:17 PM
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wenkels?? meh...scream like a banshee @ 10k, probably hit 15k and not explode on you, too...but hard starts in cold weather, fouled plugs. apex seals...nah...i'd pass on one of them.

well, maybe. i did (sorta) dig the last gen rx7...never drove one though.

i did enjoy telling teh parts noobz to get me some valve seals for an 87 rx7, though...and then i'd wait for them to say there was no listing, then i would actually show them a valve seal and say 'i have one right here!! no go get me a 11 more!!'...

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Old 01-23-2012, 01:19 PM
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I'm actually in the market for a new suspension setup and I'm interested if they're still in decent condition.

It is for a DD, though. Do you think it's DD-able? I don't mind a stiff ride, but I don't want to be bending wheels and making passengers sick. The roads around me are actually pretty good, though.


edit: argh nevermind, I forgot they're for an M3
I've DD'd them since July of '09, so its certainly doable, but its not very comfortable. Very twitchy and bottoms out when a bump looks at it wrong. Driving on a bad road is like being on a giant paint shaker.
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:39 PM
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Koni Yellow Adjustables. I got a set from my buddy's track car for like $300, couldn't say no.
Nice. I just received a set of those to install on my friend's E34. That's the route I would have gone with my E36 had I not gotten such a good deal on my Bilsteins.
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:58 PM
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I've DD'd them since July of '09, so its certainly doable, but its not very comfortable. Very twitchy and bottoms out when a bump looks at it wrong. Driving on a bad road is like being on a giant paint shaker.
Alright, would you be able to throw in the front strut mounts? I'm going to need them because I have a non-M.
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Old 01-23-2012, 01:59 PM
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CJ, you sure you want H&R race springs? They're pretty unacceptably harsh on the street.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:02 PM
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Not sure yet. I've been looking around but don't know what I want. But I'm thinking that H&R sports might be a better idea.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:04 PM
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The race springs are low and obnoxiously stiff.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:05 PM
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Alright, would you be able to throw in the front strut mounts? I'm going to need them because I have a non-M.
I couldn't give you mine because I need to re-use them, but there is a slight chance my buddy would have a set lying around because he's swapping good parts off a bad chassis and has an extra everything.

But yea, these things are pretty damn stiff.

EDIT: What he said, obnoxious is a good way to put it. (I'm not a good salesman)
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:24 PM
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Damn, I'll have to pass then. I need something only slightly unreasonable for the street.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:30 PM
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Im thinking about buying this b/c my exhaust has no cats or resonators on it and selling the borla muffler, just want something a bit quieter. Would i lose much if any hp?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E36-M3-O...item2ebaad1c7e
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:31 PM
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Damn, I'll have to pass then. I need something only slightly unreasonable for the street.
ECS Tuning is selling the sports for $181ish, beats the hell out of the $250 I just paid from bimmerworld. Do you need shocks too or just springs?
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:34 PM
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Im thinking about buying this b/c my exhaust has no cats or resonators on it and selling the borla muffler, just want something a bit quieter. Would i lose much if any hp?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E36-M3-O...item2ebaad1c7e
I can't imagine you'd really notice a drop. I once drag raced my buddy in his completely stock '95 with my exhausted, intaked and chipped one and I had him by half a car length at 70mph. Wooo.

If you want you can find me an Eisenmann Race or Sport and you can have my B&B Triflow. I don't want to give up my loudness but I could go without the ear popping drone under 2k. That being said, the Triflow under full throttle sounds pretty orgasmic.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:43 PM
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ECS Tuning is selling the sports for $181ish, beats the hell out of the $250 I just paid from bimmerworld. Do you need shocks too or just springs?
Oh ok. That's not bad at all. I need shocks and springs.
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Im thinking about buying this b/c my exhaust has no cats or resonators on it and selling the borla muffler, just want something a bit quieter. Would i lose much if any hp?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-E36-M3-O...item2ebaad1c7e
Your Borla is too loud? I thought they were on the quieter side of things? Anyway, you won't loose much power. Certainly nothing the butt dyno can detect. I might be interested in buying your Borla if you swap it out.
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:49 PM
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I can't imagine you'd really notice a drop. I once drag raced my buddy in his completely stock '95 with my exhausted, intaked and chipped one and I had him by half a car length at 70mph. Wooo.

If you want you can find me an Eisenmann Race or Sport and you can have my B&B Triflow. I don't want to give up my loudness but I could go without the ear popping drone under 2k. That being said, the Triflow under full throttle sounds pretty orgasmic.
I mean Ive ran 3 m3's around here and pulled on all of them pretty damn well...but sometimes the loudness gets on my nerves and sometimes I love it....I donno what to do
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Old 01-23-2012, 02:50 PM
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Your Borla is too loud? I thought they were on the quieter side of things? Anyway, you won't loose much power. Certainly nothing the butt dyno can detect. I might be interested in buying your Borla if you swap it out.
Its too loud/raspy when idleing down b/c of no cats or resonators, I got it that way so guess I cant complain.
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I mean Ive ran 3 m3's around here and pulled on all of them pretty damn well...but sometimes the loudness gets on my nerves and sometimes I love it....I donno what to do
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, no resonators and cats will do that.
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Ah, gotcha. Yeah, no resonators and cats will do that.
If I buy that m3 catback will it have all that on it right?
Whats potato mod?
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Jesse, cats and resonators are BEFORE the cat-back, so no, any cat back you buy won't have all that. You're looking for a mid-pipe IIRC.
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An E36 exhaust is made up of three distinct sections:

1) The headers/manifolds
2) The mid-pipe (cats and resonators)
3) The tail pipe with muffler.

So if you just buy the M3 cat-back, it won't have the resonators or cats. That's why it's called the "cat-back".
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Oh ok. That's not bad at all. I need shocks and springs.

I'd offer you my bilsteins but its probably not a good idea to take a high mileage shock and run it at a different ride height. I think they'll last someone quite a while as they are, but I wouldn't go kicking the bees nest with old, cheap parts.

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I mean Ive ran 3 m3's around here and pulled on all of them pretty damn well...but sometimes the loudness gets on my nerves and sometimes I love it....I donno what to do
Dual Exhaust with a stock side and an electronic cutout?

EDIT: Also I need dis.

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dang, so I need m3 mid pipe...err
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