The official E36 OT Thread!!

we are mostly purists... lol


i wont ever buy a 4 series.

Yeah the I think the 4 looks good.


@Jen, time for relaxation hot soups, and hot beverages

P.S- I discovered cookie monster has a twin

Originally Posted by E36 Phantom

Wow, I'm thoroughly impressed. That's a drop dead gorgeous exterior. Interior is sharp. Not amazing like the exterior but sharp.

Don't think I could ever stand to buy one though..... 4
series just sounds absurd. Bye bye legacy.

It really is gorgeous, but it will be expensive. The reason for the nomenclature switch is purely so they can charge more for it and make it seem more exclusive to new car buyers. The A5 is a 2-door A4 and its like $8k more or something.

Also, wtf is up with the late-70s-style leather braiding on the seats and door inserts? Looks like a hippie's belt. The rest of the car is awesome but god that's ugly.

Originally Posted by SlimKlim

It really is gorgeous, but it will be expensive. The reason for the nomenclature switch is purely so they can charge more for it and make it seem more exclusive to new car buyers. The A5 is a 2-door A4 and its like $8k more or something.

Also, wtf is up with the late-70s-style leather braiding on the seats and door inserts? Looks like a hippie's belt. The rest of the car is awesome but god that's ugly.

Yup all true. It's absurd.

It's even in the cup holders, I saw that and was laughing. Definitely a hippie on the interior design team. And leather plus condensation from cold drinks, wonder how long till that looks like crap. The Germans really CANT design a decent cup holder to save their lives. :rofl

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I think that's an Individual interior. At least I hope it's not standard equipment.

The series change allows for a more diverse lineup. Generally BMW includes nicer things in higher series numbers. From my experience, my 6er was basically a 2 door 5 series, but it had noticeably nicer things inside than a 5. Not so nice as to be a 7, but definitely better than a 5. Expect the same here. There is some overlap, but you're going to get a nice car in the 4 vs the 3. Now, that doesn't account for the price difference completely. Most of that has been determined to be from volume effects. They make and sell way more 4 doors than 2 doors.

Originally Posted by E36 Phantom

Yup all true. It's absurd.

It's even in the cup holders, I saw that and was laughing. Definitely a hippie on the interior design team. And leather plus condensation from cold drinks, wonder how long till that looks like crap. The Germans really CANT design a decent cup holder to save their lives. :rofl

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Seriously. It doesn't even flow with the car. Maybe if it was a new VW Microbus concept or something, but not in a svelte, low to the ground, all-business BMW coupe.

I think the new 4-Series looks great, but the fake vent thing on the side totally kills it for me. I can't believe they put a Pep Boys special doodad on the front quarter panels...


I mean, really?!


But as a door handle fetishist, I am loving the door handles.

Originally Posted by petriej

I enjoyed the song. Thank you for sharing it.


In other news: The 4 series seems to be revealed...
http://www.f30post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=775876

If only for the lowering of prices on the E92, I like it.

me likey... I'd buy one.

Originally Posted by TechieTechie

Cough Cough. Jen haz the flu....

me no likey.. sorry to hear this.

Originally Posted by petriej

I think that's an Individual interior. At least I hope it's not standard equipment.

Still, BMW isn't Rolls Royce, you can't just do anything you want on Individual. Why is this even an option?

Originally Posted by SlimKlim

Seriously. It doesn't even flow with the car. Maybe if it was a new VW Microbus concept or something, but not in a svelte, low to the ground, all-business BMW coupe.

Originally Posted by ZeGerman

I think the new 4-Series looks great, but the fake vent thing on the side totally kills it for me. I can't believe they put a Pep Boys special doodad on the front quarter panels...


I mean, really?!


But as a door handle fetishist, I am loving the door handles.

I was under the impression the vent was functional. If for any reason it's not, I've lost all faith completely in BMW.

And a door handle fetish? Really?!

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The vent doesn't look functional to me from the photo. It might be on the M4, but I'd seriously doubt it on the non-M versions. Probably just has an integrated side turn signal or something. Regardless, it's beyond ugly.

And yes, I love me a well-designed door handle. They're so often made ugly or plain, which is a shame, since they're so visible on a car, and you interact with it every time you get in.

"Interact with it". Is that what you're calling it now?

Also, on an unrelated note, I just realized that my B'Fest paid membership has just expired. I think I bought in at the same time a lot of others here did, since we had a big membership push a year or so ago. Just a reminder to re-up if your membership expired like mine, and if you aren't a paying member (but are a regular), it's time to pay to play!

Originally Posted by ZeGerman

Also, on an unrelated note, I just realized that my B'Fest paid membership has just expired. I think I bought in at the same time a lot of others here did, since we had a big membership push a year or so ago. Just a reminder to re-up if your membership expired like mine, and if you aren't a paying member (but are a regular), it's time to pay to play!

mine is always done automatically...

Originally Posted by TheFinanceGuy

mine is always done automatically...

Mine, too. It comes out of my Paypal account every 6 months. Last time I got a thank you email from Tim (site admin) I suggested having a one year supporting membership option. He didn't reply, but probably just super-busy.

I like the 4 series too...interested to see the final product in person tho to decide. Dang my subscription expired too, will have to wait a few to re-up.

4 series looks like a mini sixer with stick on fender vents, hoping its better in person. Meh.

It's important to remember that those 4-Series images are of the concept car, not the production version. Looks like the production version seen in this spy photo will have ugly door handles and smaller but still very hideous side louvers .



And here I was getting all excited about some door handles... Serves me right.

Ohhhhhhh I do remember seeing that photo. Was thoroughly underwhelmed by it.

C'est la vie.

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Yeah, we'll see. By looking at the spy photo, it does appear that the production version still has those huge openings in the front & rear bumpers. A bit busy for my taste, but some people like it.

Originally Posted by ZeGerman

It's important to remember that those 4-Series images are of the concept car, not the production version. Looks like the production version seen in this spy photo will have ugly door handles and smaller but still very hideous side louvers .

And here I was getting all excited about some door handles... Serves me right.

I think brad knows of somewhere you can release that built up excitement

Those concept door handles are absolutely gorgeous.

Originally Posted by EnserioJose

I think brad knows of somewhere you can release that built up excitement

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My buddy's family owns a house moving business in my hometown. They recently just moved a really old, historic building in town because the new owners were going to tear is down.

Anyway- have a look. Its really neat.

Originally Posted by EnserioJose

I think brad knows of somewhere you can release that built up excitement

Those concept door handles are absolutely gorgeous.

that killed me

4 series looks pretty good in concept form, but I'm still calling it a disappointment as I see the spy pictures. I'm sure it will be overweight, and will probably end up being totally bland looking like every other new BMW.

Oh and filled up the E30, less than 1/4 tank only took 8 gallons to fill up...interesting.

Got 22.3 mpg, HAS the be something going on.