Welcome to Bimmerfest -- The #1 Online Community for BMW related information! Please enjoy the discussion forums below and share your experiences with the 200,000 current, new and past BMW owners. The forums are broken out by car model and into other special interest sections such as BMW European Delivery and a special forum to voice your questions to the many BMW dealers on the site to assist our members!

Please follow the links below to help get you started!

Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)

E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
  #74251  
Old 01-21-2013, 12:44 AM
TheFinanceGuy's Avatar
TheFinanceGuy TheFinanceGuy is offline
still learnin'
Location: Boston Metro West (BMW)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,915
Mein Auto: 1998 328i / 99 540iA
Quote:
Originally Posted by crisscross View Post
At least I'm no the only one with the the wifey 30
Wifey 30 : lulz
__________________
Patrick ///04 330i ZHP///BMWCCA#465139



99 540i TiAg
98 328i hellrot (sold)
96 318iC black (sold)
  #74252  
Old 01-21-2013, 07:05 AM
SlimKlim's Avatar
SlimKlim SlimKlim is offline
King of Drone
Location: Fairfax, VA
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 9,189
Mein Auto: Bavarian Bombshell
Ugh, this SRS light is going to drive me to ruin.

Quick Recap: About 6 months after I swapped my steering wheel (with no SRS light) and 3 months after I swapped in the E46 seats (with no SRS light), the light randomly tripped one day while I was driving to work.

Pulled the codes, got the Driver's and Passenger's Seat Belt switches at the exact same time. I did the "resistor fix" that tricks the car into thinking the switches are sending the proper resistance. That turned the light off for about 20 minutes, then it threw a light but wouldn't throw a code. I replace the airbag module and paid my shop to install it and recode it, which showed me it was throwing code 01-02, something about the driver's contact ring. Pulled the wheel, cleaned the ring, reinstalled and the light went off for about 40 minutes, then came back.

I figured maybe the seat belt switch codes were due to the old SRS module on its way out, so I undid the resistor fix. Nope, threw both codes again, and the passenger occupancy sensor, BUT not the driver's firing circuit. I redid the fix, cleared the codes, and they went away... for about 5 minutes. Then the firing circuit one came back.

New News:
I'm completely fed up with trying to fix it completely, and I can't just throw good money after bad down this rabbit hole, AND I'm due for inspection next month, so its time to get dirty.

I did this fix: http://www.maxbimmer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=93207

Which gets the light off and will make driving a little more peaceful, but it doesn't turn the light on when the key is in position 2, which is what needs to happen to pass inspection. Does anyone have an idears about how to trick the system to do its diagnostic cycle?

I have a code reader, so if I absolutely have to I think I can get a sticker on it by asking my inspection place to kindly look the other direction while I clear the code, and then hope it doesn't come back on while he's pulling it into the shop (likely with my luck).

Another option is just to replace the contact ring, but I'm hesitant because 1.) The one in there is less than a year old, 2.) its expensive, 3.) I don't trust this thing when it says there is a fault in one particular place any more, all it does is jump around to to the next thing after I fix one...

...and people wonder why I drink...
  #74253  
Old 01-21-2013, 07:33 AM
miles_trail's Avatar
miles_trail miles_trail is online now
I like pie.
Location: Lexington, VA, USA
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 3,437
Mein Auto: 96 318ti, 93 BMW 325IS
There's a shop near me that usually only has one guy working so he was you sit in the car and do all the lights, I for my 318 inspected with an SRS light there for two years..... Just mentioning it because I know you pass my way every once in a while.

Sent from my ADR6300 using Bimmer App
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by E36 Phantom View Post
How do you outcrazy a dude that lifts his engines without a hoist?

  #74254  
Old 01-21-2013, 08:41 AM
SlimKlim's Avatar
SlimKlim SlimKlim is offline
King of Drone
Location: Fairfax, VA
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 9,189
Mein Auto: Bavarian Bombshell
Quote:
Originally Posted by miles_trail View Post
so he was you sit in the car
wat.
  #74255  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:03 AM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is online now
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,376
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
Quote:
Originally Posted by crisscross View Post
At least I'm no the only one with the the wifey 30






Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
wat.
+1

Joey, what about a little switch and controller that lets the light turn on with key on, but turn off after a delay.

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad // 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2000 Kawasaki Concours 1000 //
// 1998 Honda CBR900RR // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
  #74256  
Old 01-21-2013, 09:16 AM
SlimKlim's Avatar
SlimKlim SlimKlim is offline
King of Drone
Location: Fairfax, VA
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 9,189
Mein Auto: Bavarian Bombshell
Quote:
Originally Posted by E36 Phantom View Post

Joey, what about a little switch and controller that lets the light turn on with key on, but turn off after a delay.
I think you're on to something here, let me grab a pic of my current little workaround:



I just threw this in there to see if it would work, figured it'd be a lot easier just to tape over the insulation I scraped off instead of re-soldering them.

Here are the wires I'm actually jumping:



I was hoping that the wiring diagram would give me some clues and I could snip or bridge something to make it come on during the diagnostic check but go off afterwards. But what if, as you suggest, I stick something in my little wire jump that delays giving power from the violet/green wire to the blue/black for 20 or 30 seconds? I just wouldn't even know what to look for at radio shack.

EDIT: Thank you google: http://www.wolstentech.com/products/...delayrelay.php

Sounds like I could get a positive switching version of one of those things, set the delay to 30 seconds, ground the relay where the control module is grounded, use the vi/grn as the trigger and the blue/black would be the output. I'd just have to go find a 12V supply for the relay somewhere, could I piggyback off of one of the center console light things? (which haven't worked in my car for like, ever)

Last edited by SlimKlim; 01-21-2013 at 09:29 AM.
  #74257  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:12 AM
petriej's Avatar
petriej petriej is offline
Cruising 280 Top Down
Location: San Jose, CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,088
Send a message via Skype™ to petriej
Mein Auto: '99 M3 Cab & '05 X5 4.8is
I clocked in today at just over 200. Still need to drop some weight, as I'm not very tall -- 5'9" or so.


My folks gave me the rundown on Los' car. Turns out my cat likes to guard it or something. Maybe there's mice inside it? Should be safe where it is, all covered up.

Joey, what you're looking for is an inductor. It resists change in current, so on power up it will delay power and after cutoff will supply power. I'm not sure how big you need, but you'll need to be careful. Inductors are no joke dangerous.
__________________

GGC BMW CCA #443004
Join the BMW CCA!

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornhospital View Post
Jared, why don't you just put "It's Giubo" in your sig? Save a lot of typing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by e36 miguel View Post
this jared guy sounds intimidating lol.
2005 X5 4.8is Le Mans/Black/6spd Steptragic
1999 M3 Cabrio TiAg Metallic/Dove Grey/Black 5 Speed Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1997 328iC Schwarz II/K/K 5MT SOLD 5/2012
2004 645Ci Mineral Silver Metallic/Black 6MT RIP 04/2011
  #74258  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:25 AM
drive by72's Avatar
drive by72 drive by72 is offline
I feed trolls
Location: Snowy Wisconsin
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 4,950
Mein Auto: 3 series
Im so over this winter
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	ImageUploadedByBimmerApp1358792734.073610.jpg
Views:	29
Size:	129.7 KB
ID:	358606  
__________________

RIP Ben "Jever" Doebele, we wont forget you

Please, call me Chadley

1997 328iS... HR coilovers, Brembo F40 calipers, camber plates, it needs a CUMMINS!!

1990-somethin Chevy K3500... Cummins, cab swap, 5 speed, and lots of motor work. 20 MPG, 40 PSI, 507 ft/lbs torque
  #74259  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:44 AM
dc_wright's Avatar
dc_wright dc_wright is offline
bimmerfest Supporting Member
Location: Orlando, Florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,558
Send a message via ICQ to dc_wright
Mein Auto: '96 328iC, '04 325Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by petriej View Post
I clocked in today at just over 200. Still need to drop some weight, as I'm not very tall -- 5'9" or so.


My folks gave me the rundown on Los' car. Turns out my cat likes to guard it or something. Maybe there's mice inside it? Should be safe where it is, all covered up.

Joey, what you're looking for is an inductor. It resists change in current, so on power up it will delay power and after cutoff will supply power. I'm not sure how big you need, but you'll need to be careful. Inductors are no joke dangerous.
The theory is correct but for the seconds long delay he needs you'd need one the size of the car.
__________________
2006 Z4 3.0si Sport Package (But I'll still hang with my "homies" in the E36 forum)
  #74260  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:48 AM
jonesin's Avatar
jonesin jonesin is offline
The Canadian Prick.
Location: Fort McMurray AB
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Posts: 12,581
Mein Auto: '96 328is Cosmos
Quote:
Originally Posted by drive by72 View Post
Im so over this winter
Yeah, our high this week is supposed to be today's -2 *F.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by hnaz View Post
I grew up in a time when the internet was just a baby. Grammar back then versus now... holy cow. You could watch the degradation of society as the internet became more mature.

HAS KEN HAD HIS MEDS YET?
  #74261  
Old 01-21-2013, 10:56 AM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is online now
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,376
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
Quote:
Originally Posted by drive by72 View Post
Im so over this winter
Dude, me too.

Click image for larger version

Name:	uploadfromtaptalk1358794614658.jpg
Views:	32
Size:	15.6 KB
ID:	358608

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad // 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2000 Kawasaki Concours 1000 //
// 1998 Honda CBR900RR // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
  #74262  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:09 AM
petriej's Avatar
petriej petriej is offline
Cruising 280 Top Down
Location: San Jose, CA
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Posts: 6,088
Send a message via Skype™ to petriej
Mein Auto: '99 M3 Cab & '05 X5 4.8is
Quote:
Originally Posted by dc_wright View Post
The theory is correct but for the seconds long delay he needs you'd need one the size of the car.
Gotcha. My napkin math was magnitudes off, then. Perhaps a more complex solution? Or maybe fixing the real problem? Find a friend with the equipment to reset? Great time to join the BMW CCA.
__________________

GGC BMW CCA #443004
Join the BMW CCA!

Quote:
Originally Posted by hornhospital View Post
Jared, why don't you just put "It's Giubo" in your sig? Save a lot of typing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by e36 miguel View Post
this jared guy sounds intimidating lol.
2005 X5 4.8is Le Mans/Black/6spd Steptragic
1999 M3 Cabrio TiAg Metallic/Dove Grey/Black 5 Speed Manual
-------------------------------------------------------------------
1997 328iC Schwarz II/K/K 5MT SOLD 5/2012
2004 645Ci Mineral Silver Metallic/Black 6MT RIP 04/2011
  #74263  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:35 AM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is online now
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,376
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
But, you could get a small switch and controller, and program the controller to allow pass through until it gets a pulse from the ignition wire, and then cut power to the light after like 2-3 seconds.

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad // 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2000 Kawasaki Concours 1000 //
// 1998 Honda CBR900RR // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
  #74264  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:39 AM
dc_wright's Avatar
dc_wright dc_wright is offline
bimmerfest Supporting Member
Location: Orlando, Florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,558
Send a message via ICQ to dc_wright
Mein Auto: '96 328iC, '04 325Ci
Circuit to do it isn't too complex. I can sketch something up but it will be later in the week due to workload at work.
__________________
2006 Z4 3.0si Sport Package (But I'll still hang with my "homies" in the E36 forum)
  #74265  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:39 AM
TheFinanceGuy's Avatar
TheFinanceGuy TheFinanceGuy is offline
still learnin'
Location: Boston Metro West (BMW)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,915
Mein Auto: 1998 328i / 99 540iA
Why not just jump the SRS light from another light, light the ABS light... both would turn on, then turn off at the same time.

right?
__________________
Patrick ///04 330i ZHP///BMWCCA#465139



99 540i TiAg
98 328i hellrot (sold)
96 318iC black (sold)
  #74266  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:47 AM
E36 Phantom's Avatar
E36 Phantom E36 Phantom is online now
I Am The Machine
Location: Somewhere Between The Valley & The Bay
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 20,376
Mein Auto: Dreier, Fünfer & Siebener
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinanceGuy View Post
Why not just jump the SRS light from another light, light the ABS light... both would turn on, then turn off at the same time.

right?


All of us sitting here wracking our brains with circuitry and such.....that seems so much more simple and elegant. Feel awfully silly now.

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
__________________
// Chad // 2001 BMW 740i M-Sport // 2002 Lexus LX470 //
// 2009 Kawasaki Concours 14 // 2000 Kawasaki Concours 1000 //
// 1998 Honda CBR900RR // 2006 Kawasaki Ninja 250 //



Quote:
Originally Posted by SlimKlim View Post
You're a derbanana
  #74267  
Old 01-21-2013, 11:56 AM
dc_wright's Avatar
dc_wright dc_wright is offline
bimmerfest Supporting Member
Location: Orlando, Florida
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 6,558
Send a message via ICQ to dc_wright
Mein Auto: '96 328iC, '04 325Ci
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinanceGuy View Post
Why not just jump the SRS light from another light, light the ABS light... both would turn on, then turn off at the same time.

right?
This could work, the only possible gotcha is they might be half the brightness depending on what's driving them.
__________________
2006 Z4 3.0si Sport Package (But I'll still hang with my "homies" in the E36 forum)
  #74268  
Old 01-21-2013, 12:39 PM
TheFinanceGuy's Avatar
TheFinanceGuy TheFinanceGuy is offline
still learnin'
Location: Boston Metro West (BMW)
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,915
Mein Auto: 1998 328i / 99 540iA
but to pass inspection, it just needs to be light... They can't fail you because the light isn't bright enough
__________________
Patrick ///04 330i ZHP///BMWCCA#465139



99 540i TiAg
98 328i hellrot (sold)
96 318iC black (sold)
  #74269  
Old 01-21-2013, 01:42 PM
FenderBender's Avatar
FenderBender FenderBender is online now
Needs Boost
Location: Hicktown, PA
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 11,167
Mein Auto: Red Sled
Joey, are you sure that fails inspection? In pa that's classified as a secondary function so it doesn't matter if it's on.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Bimmer App
__________________
Turbo Build Here


  #74270  
Old 01-21-2013, 01:58 PM
Kdoherty's Avatar
Kdoherty Kdoherty is offline
bimmerfest Supporting Member
Location: The cradle of Liberty
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5,544
Mein Auto: A redhead E90
Quote:
Originally Posted by FenderBender View Post
Joey, are you sure that fails inspection? In pa that's classified as a secondary function so it doesn't matter if it's on.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Bimmer App
psh in mass, if the vehicle is more than 10 years old as long as it has all its exterior lights and tires it passes. My CEL has been burned out since I bought the dang thing and I've passed state insp. every time.
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by cj.surr View Post
Drop the clutch, proceed and ain't care.
  • '06 325xi 6MT
  #74271  
Old 01-21-2013, 02:35 PM
SlimKlim's Avatar
SlimKlim SlimKlim is offline
King of Drone
Location: Fairfax, VA
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 9,189
Mein Auto: Bavarian Bombshell
Quote:
Originally Posted by petriej View Post
Gotcha. My napkin math was magnitudes off, then. Perhaps a more complex solution? Or maybe fixing the real problem? Find a friend with the equipment to reset? Great time to join the BMW CCA.
I have an SRS tool, resetting is no problem, it just comes back. I'm all for fixing the real source of the problem, but I'm not in the mood to drop $220 on a slip ring that might fix it, I've already got $250 in the new control module. If I thought the slip ring would be a definitive fix I'd do it, but every time I fix one thing it jumps to the next, seat belt switch, occ sensor, control module, slip ring, etc.

Quote:
Originally Posted by E36 Phantom View Post
But, you could get a small switch and controller, and program the controller to allow pass through until it gets a pulse from the ignition wire, and then cut power to the light after like 2-3 seconds.

Sent from my LG Revolution 4G using BimmerApp
Yeah, I think the time delay relay might be a better solution, if not cheaper. The light turns on when it has no power, and off when it has a 12v supply, so right now I'm tricking the light into turning off all the time, adding the time delay would get it to mimic the right behavior.

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheFinanceGuy View Post
Why not just jump the SRS light from another light, light the ABS light... both would turn on, then turn off at the same time.

right?
Yeah, that would probably work too. Hmmm.

Quote:
Originally Posted by FenderBender View Post
Joey, are you sure that fails inspection? In pa that's classified as a secondary function so it doesn't matter if it's on.

Sent from my SCH-I605 using Bimmer App
Yeah it will fail in VA if it doesn't go off after starting.
  #74272  
Old 01-21-2013, 03:54 PM
cj.surr's Avatar
cj.surr cj.surr is online now
some kid
Location: Ithaca, NY
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,440
Mein Auto: whiny 318
Gotta love upstate ny salt!

And an e36 rear bumper ALMOST fits in the passenger compartment

V1 performed as advertised on the trip home. I got half mile notice on a statie shooting ka band in the opposite direction from the other side of a concrete overpass! Would have been invisible otherwise. Pretty incredible.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using Bimmer App
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	uploadfromtaptalk1358812290570.jpg
Views:	34
Size:	99.8 KB
ID:	358656   Click image for larger version

Name:	uploadfromtaptalk1358812301913.jpg
Views:	36
Size:	164.6 KB
ID:	358657  
__________________
-CJ

  #74273  
Old 01-21-2013, 03:56 PM
Kdoherty's Avatar
Kdoherty Kdoherty is offline
bimmerfest Supporting Member
Location: The cradle of Liberty
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 5,544
Mein Auto: A redhead E90
Quote:
Originally Posted by cj.surr View Post
Gotta love upstate ny salt!

And an e36 rear bumper ALMOST fits in the passenger compartment

V1 performed as advertised on the trip home. I got half mile notice on a statie shooting ka band in the opposite direction from the other side of a concrete overpass! Would have been invisible otherwise. Pretty incredible.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using Bimmer App
is your nose panel busted in?
__________________


Quote:
Originally Posted by cj.surr View Post
Drop the clutch, proceed and ain't care.
  • '06 325xi 6MT
  #74274  
Old 01-21-2013, 04:00 PM
cj.surr's Avatar
cj.surr cj.surr is online now
some kid
Location: Ithaca, NY
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 10,440
Mein Auto: whiny 318
Yep. Been saving all nice body panels for the project e36.

Sent from my SCH-I405 using Bimmer App
__________________
-CJ

  #74275  
Old 01-21-2013, 04:14 PM
SCJon SCJon is offline
Poet of Signature Quotes
Location: Charleston, SC
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Posts: 1,976
Mein Auto: 1997 BMW 328is
Anyone remember a forum member with the username C. Sean Watts? It was his car that I bought.
__________________

"It doesn't do any good for me to know more than you if you aren't going to listen to me"

Quote:
Originally Posted by petriej View Post
So let it be written, so let it be done.
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Tags
12-6 cloud: yes or no?, :3, because racemower!!, chads looking for a new audi, no tag integrity pls, pls stop erasing da damn tags, what's integrity?, whats audi?, you guys crack me up...


Forum Navigation
Go Back   Bimmerfest - BMW Forums > BMW Model Discussions > 3 Series / 4 Series > E36 (1991 - 1999)
Today's Posts Search
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On



Forum Jump


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 06:40 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
© 2001-2011 performanceIX, Inc. All Rights Reserved .: guidelines .:. privacy .:. terms