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BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 09-17-2014, 02:00 AM
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Hello guys i found a kit stroker for 11,000$,this kit doesnt come with software engine, where i can get it? LOOK AT THIS KIT http://www.ebay.com/itm/BMW-S85-B50-...60048e&vxp=mtr
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Old 09-17-2014, 09:37 AM
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$999 shipping? Not only are they screwing you, they aren't kind enough to give you any lube in the process.
You can ship an entire care for less than $500.

Also, when talking about S85 stroker kits, you get what you pay for. In this case, I would pass. You are talking about a company that specializes in stock car racing...not BMWs.
I understand that cost is an object but, again, this is one of those things you shouldn't be trying to find the best bargain...unless you have money to throw away...
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:09 PM
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$999 shipping? Not only are they screwing you, they aren't kind enough to give you any lube in the process.
You can ship an entire care for less than $500.

Also, when talking about S85 stroker kits, you get what you pay for. In this case, I would pass. You are talking about a company that specializes in stock car racing...not BMWs.
I understand that cost is an object but, again, this is one of those things you shouldn't be trying to find the best bargain...unless you have money to throw away...

I checked on their website it cost 9800$ and shiping 80$ on ebay there is a guy how want to make more money lol
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:17 PM
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I checked on their website it cost 9800$ and shiping 80$ on ebay there is a guy how want to make more money lol

That is PPM's eBay store you linked. And PPM's website shows the exact same price.
http://www.pureperformancemotorsport...roker-kit.html
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:27 PM
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That is PPM's eBay store you linked. And PPM's website shows the exact same price.
http://www.pureperformancemotorsport...roker-kit.html


Its australian $$$ not US
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:33 PM
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None of this changes the fact that you are looking for the lowest cost option for a stroker kit for your engine. Which in and of itself is a recipe for disaster.
But your engine is only $39,000 for a new short block or $29,000 for a re-manufactured one so go nuts.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:36 PM
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None of this changes the fact that you are looking for the lowest cost option for a stroker kit for your engine. Which in and of itself is a recipe for disaster.
But your engine is only $39,000 for a new short block or $29,000 for a re-manufactured one so go nuts.
Look i didnt say that i want to chosse the lowest cost option,i will go with dinan kit because for 37,000 i get muffler and a lot more!

Look here : http://dinancars.com/product/e60-m5-...ries&mid=1040/
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:40 PM
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Which is a far better option. At least Dinan knows what they are doing.
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:45 PM
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Which is a far better option. At least Dinan knows what they are doing.
Do i need to bring the car to them ? or can i buy the kit and i have my guy how can install it
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Typically, you would work with one of their authorized dealers/installers for warranty purposes.
http://dinancars.com/authorized-dealers/
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:52 PM
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Typically, you would work with one of their authorized dealers/installers for warranty purposes.
http://dinancars.com/authorized-dealers/
Can i buy the kit and install it alone ?
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Old 09-17-2014, 12:55 PM
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You can but they will also charge a $20,000 core charge so you are looking at over $50,000 just to get the ball rolling. Granted, you will get the $20,000 back but something to keep in mind.

I am also not sure if their warranty applies to self installs or non-authorized installer builds.
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:00 PM
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You can but they will also charge a $20,000 core charge so you are looking at over $50,000 just to get the ball rolling. Granted, you will get the $20,000 back but something to keep in mind.

I am also not sure if their warranty applies to self installs or non-authorized installer builds.
Discounted Price (Save 10.00%!!)$36,898.20

Total Core Charge $2,700.00 Note: Core charges will be refunded when your cores are received by Dinan I see there 2,700$ is it true?
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Old 09-17-2014, 01:06 PM
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This engine is sold on exchange basis with a $20,000.00 core deposit required

From the page: http://dinancars.com/product/d850-10...v-10-engine-2/




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Old 09-18-2014, 08:05 AM
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After reading further, the throttle bodies have the $2700 core charge while the engine is a $20,000 core charge. So your total core charge initially will be $22,700.
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Be sure before you start modding the S85 engine you need to change the all the fluids, if over 30k miles change all the rod bearings (WPC treated seems to be the best) and do a blackstone oil analysis. One of the weak points of the S85 is the stock rod bearings wearing and causing engine failure. This should be the first $3-4k you should spend IMO.
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Old 09-18-2014, 10:42 AM
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Be sure before you start modding the S85 engine you need to change the all the fluids, if over 30k miles change all the rod bearings (WPC treated seems to be the best) and do a blackstone oil analysis. One of the weak points of the S85 is the stock rod bearings wearing and causing engine failure. This should be the first $3-4k you should spend IMO.
Exactly. Even ESS gives a rod bearing upgrade option with the supercharger kit.
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Old 09-18-2014, 12:23 PM
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Exactly. Even ESS gives a rod bearing upgrade option with the supercharger kit.

OK guys, but i dont understand why i neeed to pay 22,700$ more for the parts? I pay the parts 37,000 and thats it they send me the parts, what is this core price and for what?
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Old 09-18-2014, 12:41 PM
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Because they need your old engine back in exchange.

Think of the core charge as a pop bottle deposit to encourage you to return your used pop bottle (engine) so that they can make more pop bottles (engines). Same goes for the throttle bodies which they re-manufacture to their performance standards.

This "kit" is not a crank, rods and pistons kit like the PPM kit is. This is a whole engine long block.
Special Note: Items normally replaced during an engine exchange (gaskets, fluids, etc.) must be provided by the installer. Customer must provide suitable core engine. Dinan software is supplied. Turn-around time at Dinan is 2 weeks.
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:25 PM
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LOL send him my engine, this is stupid and pay them 37k more !
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Actually, I had a response typed up but I am going to go ahead and skip it.

It is clear that you're in WAY over your head here. You need to research the work involved with stroker engines (and even more importantly exotic stroker engines) and then understand how much work not only goes into actually building the engine but then into installing said engine along with making it all work correctly.

You don't seem to understand how any of it works.
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Old 09-18-2014, 01:46 PM
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Actually, I had a response typed up but I am going to go ahead and skip it.

It is clear that you're in WAY over your head here. You need to research the work involved with stroker engines (and even more importantly exotic stroker engines) and then understand how much work not only goes into actually building the engine but then into installing said engine along with making it all work correctly.

You don't seem to understand how any of it works.
ok let's say they make a nice job, does the engine that they give me its new condition?
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What do you get with a Stroker Dinan over a V10 Bavarian MOTOR! Quicker launch say .5 - 1 second and instead of top end of say 155 its 185! And a more snarling sounding machine! Is that it! Ohhhh and instant grartification and ego booster too. Nice.

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OP - here is a screenshot from the Dinan website direct. If you don't understand what they are saying then you need to call them directly and let them explain it to you over the phone. Btw I've screenshot all the pertinent info to your question.
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OP - here is a screenshot from the Dinan website direct. If you don't understand what they are saying then you need to call them directly and let them explain it to you over the phone. Btw I've screenshot all the pertinent info to your question.
yes i understood, i send my engine in exchange of their 5,8 engine prepared already but is the engine block new? or used
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