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E90/E92/E93 M3 (2008 - 2014)
4th generation E90 M3 sedan, E92 M3 coupe and E93 M3 convertible. The last of the naturally aspirated M3s, powered by a 4.0 liter V8 making 414hp and 295 lb-ft of torque.

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Old 07-06-2009, 08:38 PM
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Does your 2008 M3 burn any oil?

just turned 10k and this will be the second time I have had to add a quart. First time was around 6500 I think and now 3500 miles later, another quart.

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Old 07-06-2009, 09:55 PM
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my m3 hasnt told me to add or change or anything even once yet
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Old 07-06-2009, 10:44 PM
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I think it does but can't confirm now because it only has about 1400 miles on it so far. Will confirm and update later but what I do know is it really burns fuel
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:11 AM
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all m3 burns a quart of oil every 3k+ miles. it is normal unless you drive your m3 like a grandma.
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:13 AM
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all m3 burns a quart of oil every 3k+ miles. it is normal unless you drive your m3 like a grandma.
Yep, I was a liter low 3k miles after the 1200 mile service.
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:56 AM
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One of my Hondas burn a quart every 4K miles, so I wouldn't worry about it at all. Many M3s burn a lot more than that, but maybe those folks drive their cars a lot harder.

I don't know exactly where mine rates, but the good news is in 1,400 miles of highway use between 3 and 4K rpm didn't move from full, so am not worried about oil consumption at all (but I was a bit concerned when I bought it, to be honest). Take care.
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Old 07-07-2009, 05:38 PM
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I've read on other forums that some oil burn is typical. Perhaps one quart after 5,000 miles would be okay. I've heard of 4,000 miles. That seems a little bit excessive...

A friend of mine with an E92 reports one quart every 4,000 miles.
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Old 07-08-2009, 03:19 PM
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Alright, thats good to hear. I just wanted to make sure. I really do drive it pretty hard. Not bad, just real aggressive. After all that is why I bought it :-) Enjoy
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Old 07-12-2009, 03:58 PM
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I would not worry about it. I had a 1995 325iC that burned more than that and, while the engine was very strong, it drove me crazy. The oil was getting cooked because there was certainly no black smoke coming out of the pipe. I totalled that car with very low miles so, at the end of the day, my problem, to the extent that one existed, solved itself.

The 320i, 528e, 323Ci, 330Ci, and 330CiC (zhp) I had never burned much, if any, oil. I just went out and pulled the dip stick out of my M with 4200 miles and it looks good.

I have a buddy that had a 2002 325Ci that burned even more than my 325. He was adding a quart every 1500-2000 miles. The BMW techs could not find any real problem with it and BMWNA was not particularly helpful. If I recall correctly, it was its position that it was only a problem if it burned a quart every 1000 miles. I later learned from a BMW tech that now has his own and very respected independent shop here in north westchester that it is not really a problem and that the fresh fluids between scheduled changes can be looked at as a good thing.


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Dealership did the first oil change for me at 1200 miles and I don't have 2000 miles yet so I still am not sure but will update once my odometer its 3 or 4K miles.
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Old 07-13-2009, 12:05 PM
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I just went out and pulled the dip stick out of my M with 4200 miles and it looks good.
Obviously not an E9x correct? They don't have dipsticks, but you have a '2008 M3' listed on the top right of your post so I'm confused.
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I have a 2008 Sedan with just over 40k miles on it, and it does use oil. The dealer is happy to top it off between oil changes, so I really haven't looked at how much per mile. I'll be payong for it myself soon, so I'll be noticing a lot more. As for the dipstick... it does have one, but only while I'm driving it.
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Old 07-25-2009, 10:55 AM
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As for the dipstick... it does have one, but only while I'm driving it.
It's an electronic SENSOR, not a dipstick man. Yeah, words make a difference .

So you don't even pay attention approximately how much oil your car is consuming? You should man. If it's a liter every 4K miles (or more), even my Hondas consume that so no worries. But a liter in less than 2K miles without aggressive driving would have me worried. Other than that no problems with your M3? You have the highest mileage I've seen. Good luck.
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Old 08-04-2009, 12:05 AM
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I found out that my car produces oil. I had the 1200 mile service performed and on the way home it was reading 1/2 liter low. OK, no problem. The next day when I drove it, it was reading Max..*****, even better. The following day, it read over max and I had to take it back to the dealer to drain out some oil. Amazing car...let me know if you need some oil...he he.

I'm just so glad we don't have a dipstick...otherwise how would I get to know the service advisor so well when I have to bring my car back so they can drain out oil. A dipstick would make things too easy.
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Old 08-04-2009, 05:19 AM
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I added a quart at 6K miles, from what I have read around the forums this is not abnormal.

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just turned 10k and this will be the second time I have had to add a quart. First time was around 6500 I think and now 3500 miles later, another quart.

What do you think? Is this ok?


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I added a quart at 6K miles, from what I have read around the forums this is not abnormal.
Added a quart at about 5K. It has dropped steadily over the next 3K. Getting an intermediate oil change at 8200 this week.
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Old 08-04-2009, 10:29 AM
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Recently took ED in Munich and it was filled almost all the way to the Max mark. After the break-in service, they filled it a little more than the middle mark, but less than before.

I then drove to and on the Nurburgring and the following day in the middle of France I noticed the oil level had dropped a little - it was now at the middle mark.

2,000 miles later at the end of the ED, the level had stayed the same (but then the car was never driven quite as hard as on the Ring).


So I think it's normal for a little oil consumption. I don't have the manual in front of me, so I don't know what the difference is between Min and Max levels.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:59 AM
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I wrote a very detailed post on how to check oil level on another forum. Problem is ECU resets oil level with every ignition cycle, and checks it ONCE oil reaches approximately 160F. And you'll NEVER know when the computer decides to take the reading: it can be on an incline, while cornering, while braking... you name it. That's why you have to disregard the gauge and check it always on a flat surface, AT THE SAME PLACE (your garage, for instance), and AT IDLE after having used the car at least 10 miles. You can invoke a 'reset' (which will be accurate with the engine hot), or turn car off then on again, but no sense on wasting your starter and battery power. By the way, if you haven't read the manual, you press the computer button for 2 to 3 seconds while on the oil level mode. The level will get blank, and it'd take about a minute to show a reading.
If you do that, you'd always get consistent readings. Many times there's no overfill of oil. And by the way, some techs don't understand how the sensor works either, so make sure to ask for one who works on M cars. My car was low on oil after the 1.2K-mile service, but I topped it off myself. And I'll always keep it topped off if level ever goes down. It's stupid IMO having to carry oil in your $70K car and wait until the computer tells you to add 1-lt or risk engine damage, but many folks want to follow the manual for everything. To each his own. Germans think we're stupid I guess, but once you learn how the sensor works, you can treat it more or less like a crappy dipstick . Good day folks.
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I wrote a very detailed post on how to check oil level on another forum. Problem is ECU resets oil level with every ignition cycle, and checks it ONCE oil reaches approximately 160F. And you'll NEVER know when the computer decides to take the reading: it can be on an incline, while cornering, while braking... you name it. That's why you have to disregard the gauge and check it always on a flat surface, AT THE SAME PLACE (your garage, for instance), and AT IDLE after having used the car at least 10 miles. You can invoke a 'reset' (which will be accurate with the engine hot), or turn car off then on again, but no sense on wasting your starter and battery power. By the way, if you haven't read the manual, you press the computer button for 2 to 3 seconds while on the oil level mode. The level will get blank, and it'd take about a minute to show a reading.
If you do that, you'd always get consistent readings. Many times there's no overfill of oil. And by the way, some techs don't understand how the sensor works either, so make sure to ask for one who works on M cars. My car was low on oil after the 1.2K-mile service, but I topped it off myself. And I'll always keep it topped off if level ever goes down. It's stupid IMO having to carry oil in your $70K car and wait until the computer tells you to add 1-lt or risk engine damage, but many folks want to follow the manual for everything. To each his own. Germans think we're stupid I guess, but once you learn how the sensor works, you can treat it more or less like a crappy dipstick . Good day folks.
Don't know how I missed your post, this information is crucial! (And explains my readings in Europe).

Thank you very much for doing the research and taking the time to post. Much appreciated...
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Okay...a question then. The tech at the dealership told me in no uncertain terms that the M3 will burn about a liter every 750-1000 miles under normal operation? Was he lying - he seemed VERY sure of himself. And, in watching the oil sensor readout, it has dropped noticeably in the 700 miles I've driven since my 1200 mile service a few weeks ago.
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Okay...a question then. The tech at the dealership told me in no uncertain terms that the M3 will burn about a liter every 750-1000 miles under normal operation? Was he lying - he seemed VERY sure of himself. And, in watching the oil sensor readout, it has dropped noticeably in the 700 miles I've driven since my 1200 mile service a few weeks ago.
He said it correctly "under normal operation", but then again these are machines subject to fail in some ways.
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14 k miles today and added my second quart, cost me $13 since I was not near the dealer I usually use... going to buy a quart and keep it in the trunk just in case!

The more this baby sings the more it needs to wet its whistle... so revs will increase the oil consumption. Small price to pay for the smile it keeps on my face!
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