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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 07-08-2009, 06:47 AM
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Time needed to remove intake manifold?

Experts: I was just sold a job by my local indy. The main coolant supply line was leaking. Apparently, it was failing right where it becomes buried inside the intake manifold. Replacing the hose took 3 hours labor. Plausible?

Yes, I'm aware that overhauling the whole cooling system at once is prudent... I thought I had virtually everything done but small pieces pop up every 6 months or so.

I ask because I trust this shop mostly but need a reality check on labor times.... I expect them to turn profit on me, I just want to be aware of how much!

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-08-2009, 08:27 AM
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Which hose from www.realoem.com?
How many miles on your car?
Three (3) hours of labor seem fair but there is more to it, read on...

This job is not hard but it takes patience. How skilled are you? Have you ever touched a wrench....?

I just finished this 8-hour massive job and here is the DIY. This is a "Quadruple" Job:
1- Replacing Oil Line to Vanos (mine is leaking).
2- Replacing CCV and hoses (preventive).
3- Cleaning ICV and replace its hoses (preventive).
4- Cleaning Alternator Air Duct and Installed Gutter Guard to prevent leaves from being sucked in.
(All gaskets: Intake Manifold gaskets x 2, Throttle x 2 were also replaced).

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=379225

So my recommendation is in addition to fixing your leaking heater hose, do all of the 4 items I mentioned above (plus all the gaskets).

PS: Many of these heater hoses can be replaced by removing only the Air Filter Housing Assembly + Throttle Body, i.e., no need to remove the Intake Manifold. Just look at Figure 2:

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Old 07-08-2009, 09:38 AM
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The supply line looked very much like number 5 :





I'm not able to do any of this work myself. This means I've got to really be able to trust my mechanic.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:47 AM
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The pic you showed does not apply to your 1999 528i car.

This is a better diagram:
http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...38&hg=11&fg=35
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Old 07-08-2009, 10:17 AM
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Thanks for the assistance.

The diagram I showed is what the oem site gives my when I input the data for my early 1999 528i:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...55&hg=11&fg=35

The worn hose the shop presented to me looked like #5 from my diagram and did not resemble any of the hoses from your diagram.
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Old 07-08-2009, 11:07 AM
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Then my suggestion is open your hood and do a quick check or post a pic of what your engine bay looks like, then figure out all the heater hoses that need to be replaced and do them all to save you labor (or even engine overheat later).

Heater Hoses are like tires, when one tire is worn down, then chances are the other three (3) tires are also worn.
So replace them all to save money later.
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Old 07-08-2009, 09:47 PM
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Thanks for the assistance.

The diagram I showed is what the oem site gives my when I input the data for my early 1999 528i:

http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...55&hg=11&fg=35

The worn hose the shop presented to me looked like #5 from my diagram and did not resemble any of the hoses from your diagram.
#5 in your diagram is not a hose, it's a pipe. Here is a pic with that part number (11531433059).(

So if the shop showed you a hose, it wasn't #5.
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Old 07-09-2009, 07:54 AM
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Twas a pipe then.... that's what they replaced. My mistake.
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Old 07-12-2009, 08:39 AM
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I have a 540i, and the parts quote alone is $800. for valve covers backfire plate, PCV hose, intake manifold, front and rear seals etc. Indies want $2800. dealer $4200.

I am retired, so I can do it myself. I have the time but not the money. No one but a brain surgeon, a mechanic or a plumbing contractor should own a BMW.

Things break or leak on these cars that don't even exist on a GM car.
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