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Old 01-05-2010, 01:59 PM
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I'm planning to do this job in next couple weeks. I am considering the Redline D4 fluid as it specifically refers to the ZF 6HP transmission. I'd prefer to use OEM fluid but it's off-the wall expesive. I know the Castrol Multi-vehicle ATF seems to work fine from others, but I'd feel more at ease with a good synthetic. However, just because it is synthetic and supposedly "awesome" - I don't trust advertising!

Bottom line - has anyone used the Redline D4 fluid? Any issues?

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Old 01-05-2010, 04:41 PM
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I used Castrol multi-import transmission fluid and it works fine $5 a qt. ( meets specs ) tranny cover has drain plug on bottom. fill plug on the side, also changed the filter pan combo $190
got 6 qts out. still shifts fine now for 5k miles did it at 60k and i thought i changed my dirty oil. the only thing is u have to use a funnel with a 3ft . 1/2 hose to go in fill plug
level car on stands get tranny to about 115 degrees, and fill 1 qt. at a time , will take 2 people ,and 20 mins to add fluid, the cost $220 / dealer $$$$$ $700- $900 good luck all
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:38 PM
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Procedure-wise, I think I'm good. Just curious if anyone has tried the Redline fluid with good results. Seems we have pretty good consensus that Castrol works fine.
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Old 01-05-2010, 09:32 PM
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I drained mine and only fluid was avail for me was the castrol got like 8 quarts out put 7.6 back in until it started flowing out like the Zspec pdf file said to. I was a little pissed off after I did all that and seen the sticker on the right side of the pan saying lifetime fluid, do not change- duh, never ever again go under this car, u couldn't pay me.

next time i take it to jiffy, lube change or whatever, let them drain and refill only. Castrol seems to shift just like the $!@#@$fluid that was in there before, no issues, i just get a little scared underneath that much weight, even with 3 ton floor jack, bmw cheapie, jack, jack stands, rhino ramps sideways and boxes of tile under car for extra protection. My cats wouldn't even go under this car. its a monster.
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Old 01-06-2010, 07:21 AM
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lmao...now imagine how I felt with my car like this the entire summer a year and a half ago, under it every single night for the majority of the night! That's a lot of time banging away with my whole body under there, with only the jack stands supporting it -- and I had the parking brake on and rear wheels chocked. But, I do have to say, the jack stands held the car rock solid. (that is my dad in the pictures helping)



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Old 01-06-2010, 03:22 PM
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Is that a piece of wood you have between the jackstand and the jack point? Makes me wish there was a nice hole in my garage floor :-) I agree this is the scariest part of working on any car especially when you are tugging on things.

Separately, still don't have a solid answer on the Redline D4. I sent a mail to Redline. This is what they said - it isn't particularly inspiring:

"Thank you for contacting Red Line Oil, in your transmission I would recommend the D4ATF, a suitable replacement for the original Shell M-1375.4 fluid. I am not aware of any specific long term testing done on the 6HP26 transmission. We would stand by the fluid as being a suitable replacement for the original fluid, meeting its characteristics and performance.
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I'm not sure what "stand by the fluid" implies.
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Old 01-06-2010, 06:11 PM
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Wood? Of course! The block of wood gets imprinted with the outline of the jack block and the jack stand...better distribution of weight along both jack stand and jack block...and less slippery. =]
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Old 01-08-2010, 10:10 PM
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I've been using Redline D4 ATF on 2002 745Li since 2,500 miles after breakin. Vehicle currently has 110,000 miles on it with no problems.

Have it on a 2005 525i since 2,500 miles too and currently has 96,000 miles with no problems either.
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Old 01-09-2010, 11:29 PM
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A bit of a thread Hi-Jack - But would any of you know why I can't engage "Park" gear in my 735i E65 2002? I get a transmission malfunction warning when I start the car up saying something like "Can't engage Park gear". Car drives fine otherwise with no problems??

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Old 01-09-2010, 11:30 PM
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A bit of a thread Hi-Jack - But would any of you know why I can't engage "Park" gear in my 735i E65 2002? I get a transmission malfunction warning when I start the car up saying something like "Can't engage Park gear". Car drives fine otherwise with no problems??

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Old 01-10-2010, 12:35 PM
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There is a lot of discussion on the fluids in the E39 Forum. I've used Redline D4 for my 540i sport, as well as a 3 series coupe. Both ZF Steptronics. Will be checking into the trans of a 745li that I just picked up.

SO, cruise over there for some information.

Has ZF put dipsticks back in yet??? What a marketing crock of S/fiasco with the "Lilfetime Fill" Does that mean BMW's/Audi's, etc with ZF trans (I have an A4 with a steptronic as well) are only good for the life of the fluid (60K) what a joke.
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Old 01-13-2010, 12:11 PM
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Fixed !!!

Thanks very much for your effort Kyle. I'm going to get teh car in the air asap to check and will let you know!

Thanks to everyone for their advice and input. HAPPY to announce that the problem has been resolved.

This is what was wrong:

* The Park gear WILL NOT engage if the park cable is not fullly dis-engagedd, there is an emergency release cable that can be found under the drivers dash. You use your secondary key (Key in your FOB key) to unlock and it will drop out. You will see a red "pull" tag. You must pull that to its maximum, then push it back FULLY into place.

After that was done I restarted the car - error message is gone and park gear engages perfectly now!
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Old 01-21-2010, 10:37 AM
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I had mine done would stay away from castrol or any other no approved trans fluid it's not worth saving 40-50 bucks to have a 12k problem down the road. I used Royal Purple MAX ATF it is approved by BMW and I believe was 8.99 a quart
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Old 01-21-2010, 02:40 PM
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Castrol works just fine .10K rides like a dream Transmission fluids are ALMOST like
motor oils all the same. ( i said almost the same ) Let this marinade now.
Castrol multi-import $5 a quart Tranny fluid does 3 things 1. lubricates 2. cools 3. and hydralic fluid to tranny
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Castrol works just fine .10K rides like a dream Transmission fluids are ALMOST like
motor oils all the same. ( i said almost the same ) Let this marinade now.
Castrol multi-import $5 a quart Tranny fluid does 3 things 1. lubricates 2. cools 3. and hydralic fluid to tranny
Thats right, thats what I"m using as it was the only thing available at the time. I was going to use royal purple, but they only had 4 quarts at the time. Fill it up, run it thru the gears until it starts, girgling out, flowing out, put the plug in. (just make sure u use amount required).
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I had mine done would stay away from castrol or any other no approved trans fluid it's not worth saving 40-50 bucks to have a 12k problem down the road. I used Royal Purple MAX ATF it is approved by BMW and I believe was 8.99 a quart
Sorry for the thread bump, but Royal Purple ATF IS NOT BMW APRROVED!

From their site:
Please note: Max ATF is not recommended or an approved warranty replacement for: Aisin Warner AW-1, Ford Type F, Ford Mercon SP & Mercon LV, GM Dexron VI, Mercedes Benz MB 236.12 & 236.14, Shell M1375.4 (ZF 6-Speed AT) and Toyota WS. Max ATF is not recommended for use in any CVT applications.
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Any1 know where 2 get this SHELL # M1375.4 fluid for a 2006 750li
tranny pan #83220142516 . they say only from bmw dealer in a 20 liter container for
big bucks . hard to believe its not elsewhere in qts. thanks
Dexron VI is the same as Shell 1375.4
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Old 10-31-2012, 09:49 AM
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I used Castrol multi-import transmission fluid and it works fine $5 a qt. ( meets specs ) tranny cover has drain plug on bottom. fill plug on the side, also changed the filter pan combo $190
got 6 qts out. still shifts fine now for 5k miles did it at 60k and i thought i changed my dirty oil. the only thing is u have to use a funnel with a 3ft . 1/2 hose to go in fill plug
level car on stands get tranny to about 115 degrees, and fill 1 qt. at a time , will take 2 people ,and 20 mins to add fluid, the cost $220 / dealer $$$$$ $700- $900 good luck all
Please please someone school me? 2006 750Li 54,000miles
So having transmission problems, fault code. Troubleshooting says check battery and fluid level. Battery and charging sys fine. Looked under the car and looked like it was leaking at the rear end of the tranny...
Put car on jack stands..(no easy task since I swear the entire undercarriage is made of plastic)
Removed metal front engine rock guard to have access to tranny cover screws, removed tranny cover...alas! The tranny...
First I noticed that it seemed to be leaking from the gasket between the plastic cover and the tranny. no prob I'll just tighten and see what happens...
HERES WHERE I RAN INTO PROBLEMS
previous thread I read said that tranny fluid level should be even with bottom threads of side plug?
I thought...hmmm no problem, car is probably low on oil anyway so I'll just take plug out and add oil until it starts coming out...
Problem is, as soon as I loosen the plug about a quart of oil came gushing out before I could screw the plug back in.
WHAT GIVES! Will someone that has ACTUALLY done an oil change please reply? Something is not right at all. Either everyone on here is hypothesizing how you "should" change the tranny oil or something is wrong with my car, maybe both?
For a minute I thought maybe the car should be running or at least just ran, maybe then the oil would end up elsewhere...
Now my trans fault light is "ON" so maybe theres something internally wrong but at this point I just want to know..

1) when removing side bung, should any oil come out?
2) should engine be running?
3) how do you re-fill it?
4) my new oil is red but the stuff thats all over me now is black, pretty sure it should have some sort of red tint to it
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Old 10-31-2012, 10:50 AM
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1) when removing side bung, should any oil come out?
2) should engine be running?
3) how do you re-fill it?
4) my new oil is red but the stuff thats all over me now is black, pretty sure it should have some sort of red tint to it
1. Yes
2. Yes, to check fluid level
3. Normally read BMW's Service Manual: http://tis.spaghetticoder.org/
But the aticle for the fluid level check is absent, so go here:
http://www.thectsc.com/index.php?p=p...e_id=tech_info
4. Red would be better. I've been pleased with the oil change kits offered by www.thectsc.com
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Old 03-10-2013, 08:10 PM
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Hey guys,>>
After reading through all of these posts pertaining to tranny leaks/refills, I am both delighted and yet somewhat hesitant to do it myself. >>
That said, I am the ultimate frugal person and all about saving money vs shelling it out to a dealer, but after reading several of the posts that outlined the fluid changing process and the frequency at which it is done, I canít help but wonder why a person wouldnít invest in a unit like this. (See link)>>
http://www.harborfreight.com/transmission-fluid-exchanger-93019.html>>
> >
While it is an initial ~$200 investment, I think it would pay for itself in no time at all, if you guys truly do change tranny fluid as often as you sayÖ >>
I live in Wisconsin and park my 06-750Li for the winter. Most recently I noticed that there was a slight fluid puddle about the area of the tranny. >>
So Iím guessing Iím going to need a new pan/filter/gasket kit and probably will attempt the tranny fluid change. (46k on vehicle currently)>>
Iíll let you know how it turned outÖ >>
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Old 04-20-2013, 10:44 AM
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Do you still have to start filling the trans on cold with a person in the car running the gears while filling the trans to its temperature? Do you guys know the temp? Did have it at one time for my 98 740LI, but cannot find the procedure now.
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Drain and Fill

Yo... It's a pretty easy task to tackle. You gotta drain all fluid from tranny. Capacity for just a drain and fill is exactly 5.5 quarts or 5.25 liters. For complete drain of TC, pan and valve body, you will need 9.5 quarts. You may use the Red Line ATF 4, the Shell ATF that's sold by BMW dealers, or Castrol multi-import. If you are going to drain and fill, might as well replace Mechatronic Sleeve and adapter for future PM. Easy to do and both are about 35 total. Once drained, you will need a siphon pump, a fill pump that goes into the quart and fill back in to the refill plug. When draining, loosen but do not remove fill plug. OEM fluid is not a true red fluid. Hope this helps.
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