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Old 07-29-2009, 03:01 AM
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I really have no knowledge or experience with European cars. My first & only car is a 96 Honda Civic that i have for 13years. The car still runs perfectly & have had no problems whatsoever. After reading more up on BMWs, i hear they are quite expensive to maintain. Im planning to use the 335d on special occasions/weekends will i still have to do a lot maintenance on this? I have no knowledge w/ automotive, i dont even know hot to change oil. What do you think will be the average cost to maintain this yearly?

So we went to the BMW dealer to check out the 335d & was trying to find one w/ no options. There were two, one was loaded w/ options going to cost about $52,000+ ouch then there was the demo car with about only $1,500 of options making the price to $45,500.

Well the demo has 2,500 miles already on it, will this be a problem in the future? Should i be worried/concern?

Anyway, they are offering $4,500 off + $4,500 Cars for Clunkers, + $1,000 cause its a demo car making it about $38,XXX tax included. Is this a good deal? Should i ask for more off cause its a demo?
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Old 07-29-2009, 04:14 AM
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The $1,000 off is because the car is a demo. You should target a sell price of (Dealer Invoice + MACO + Training Fees + $500) less (the $1,000 demo discount + $4,500 Eco Credit + $4,500 Cash for Clunkers); so, there is a little more cash that is on the table to be negotiated over. The Eco Credit and Cash for Clunkers is not costing the dealer anything. A good sell price would be somewhere in the $36,000 range before Tax, Title and License/Registration. The car has been in the dealers inventory for probably 4 months (you can find the manufacture date on a sticker that is affixed to the drivers side B-pillar; add 1 month for transit, the rest of the time to the present is in dealers inventory). Cars that are in dealers inventory are costing the dealer carrying fees to the bank, so the dealer will be motivated to offer a deal on lot queens to move them.
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:28 AM
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:39 AM
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The 96 Honda Civic qualifies as Cars for Clunkers? I thought the car had to get less than 18mpg to qualify?
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Old 07-29-2009, 06:50 AM
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The 96 Honda Civic qualifies as Cars for Clunkers? I thought the car had to get less than 18mpg to qualify?
No my dad has an old Nissan Quest he's going to use to get me the $4,500.

APR is 5.9% for 60 months, does that seem a bit high? Also what's the general rule when trying to bargain w/ bmw. How much off the MSRP price considered a good deal?
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Old 07-29-2009, 03:45 PM
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Two points:

1) There will be no maintenance expense for 50,000 miles or 48 months, as BMW covers this for new cars.
2) To qualify for the "cash", the "clunker" must have been registered for one year in the name of the purchaser of the new car.
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Old 07-29-2009, 05:20 PM
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Two points:

1) There will be no maintenance expense for 50,000 miles or 48 months, as BMW covers this for new cars.
2) To qualify for the "cash", the "clunker" must have been registered for one year in the name of the purchaser of the new car.
And insured continuously for the preceding year.
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Old 07-29-2009, 08:21 PM
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Yes my dad's Nissan Quest was accepted w/ Cash for Clunkers deal. He's had it since 95 & put 248,000 miles on it. Best time to trade it in as the value was about $248 & some change...

Went to BMW today & looks like im going to be a new bmw owner. Sucks i couldn't drive it off the lot today. They are going to buff out any scratches they may see & detail the inside. They say it will be ready in couple days...
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Remember - cash for clunkers and any gov't promos are coming from the gov't so should be handled AFTER price negotiations. Another thing that should be handled AFTER price negotiations is any BMW corporate incentive (unless it says otherwise). If the eco discount is from BMW and it says "based on MSRP" then your based on MSRP, if however it is a corporate discount and does not say "based on MSRP" then go off invoice.

Actually when you go in know the invoice price and offer them invoice. They will most likely scoff...don't go more then 100 over invoice. Remember it is a new car and you can always order it from another dealer.

As for longevity - I had a 1996 maxima until this past year. While some people have exceptions (my friend has a 1999 BMW which is relatively problem free) I am not holding my breath. With maintenance/warranty coverage you should be good to go.

EDIT: I thinkg $1000 off for a demo car is not enough...2000 miles? Have you ever driven a loaner? Have you ever said "ohh i want to try this" and done something you would never do to your own car? Like actually testing 0-60 at every single light. If you haven't let me assure you people have and DO try this. Given that...do you want the first 2k miles on your car being balls to the walls destruction? Get a new car and screw the 1k.
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Old 07-30-2009, 08:10 AM
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Why would you get a diesel engine and pay a premium for it when you only drive the car on weekends or special occasions?

Diesels make the most sense if you drive a lot because the engines generally last longer and give you better gas milage.

2,500 miles for a diesel engine is nothing, so don't be concerned about that. Only problem I see with demos is that they often were not broken in, hence, people may have taken them for test drives with low miles and hit the car hard to see how it feels.

Not sure what BMW recommends for break in on a diesel engine and there are certainly different schools of thoughts, some recommending that requiring break in is just an urban legend anyway...
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Remember - cash for clunkers and any gov't promos are coming from the gov't so should be handled AFTER price negotiations. Another thing that should be handled AFTER price negotiations is any BMW corporate incentive (unless it says otherwise). If the eco discount is from BMW and it says "based on MSRP" then your based on MSRP, if however it is a corporate discount and does not say "based on MSRP" then go off invoice.

Actually when you go in know the invoice price and offer them invoice. They will most likely scoff...don't go more then 100 over invoice. Remember it is a new car and you can always order it from another dealer.

As for longevity - I had a 1996 maxima until this past year. While some people have exceptions (my friend has a 1999 BMW which is relatively problem free) I am not holding my breath. With maintenance/warranty coverage you should be good to go.

EDIT: I thinkg $1000 off for a demo car is not enough...2000 miles? Have you ever driven a loaner? Have you ever said "ohh i want to try this" and done something you would never do to your own car? Like actually testing 0-60 at every single light. If you haven't let me assure you people have and DO try this. Given that...do you want the first 2k miles on your car being balls to the walls destruction? Get a new car and screw the 1k.
Well we ended up buying it already.
45,500 - 4,500 - 4,500, - 2,700 = $33,300...I was able to lower it an extra $1,700 instead of the initial 1,000. Im happy for what i paid as my brother's IS300 a couple years ago was about the same price. Hopefully i didn't overpaid. I should get it either tomorrow or Saturday.
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Well we ended up buying it already.
45,500 - 4,500 - 4,500, - 2,700 = $33,300...I was able to lower it an extra $1,700 instead of the initial 1,000. Im happy for what i paid as my brother's IS300 a couple years ago was about the same price. Hopefully i didn't overpaid. I should get it either tomorrow or Saturday.
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so whos car is it?!
lol I hope you are joking!
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You didn't even start your own thread?

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For some reason they having a hard time getting the Cash for Clunkers deal to go through. They told me that they already processed & just waiting for the OK. Is it suppose to take this long? We came in Wednesday...Anyway, i went there yesterday too see the car all nice & brand new w/o stickers on it. Looks freaken beautiful...I really wanted to take it home Dealer said he will give us a call today, hope its today...

Has anyone done the Cash for Clunker deal? I thought you can just take the car home, i dont like this waiting for approval thing.
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The Cash for Clunkers program has been overwhelmed by the consumer & dealer response. The initial $1.0 Billion that was allocated to the program has been used up. Here is an article about the situation: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32228179/ns/business-autos/
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i called them today & they are saying the 335d only qualify for 3,500? This doesn't make sense, is the dealer trying to scam me? He was saying the combine is only 27mpg? I thought it was 29mpg?
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i called them today & they are saying the 335d only qualify for 3,500? This doesn't make sense, is the dealer trying to scam me? He was saying the combine is only 27mpg? I thought it was 29mpg?
Like someone else said, just walk away if you haven't signed any contracts yet, if you have you are SOL.
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