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Old 09-11-2014, 05:25 PM
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Windows 9 is maddening!!!

I had to buy a new PC yesterday. Navigating is so frustrating. It is so un-user-friendly.
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Wipe it and install Windows 7 ;-)

I hate getting new versions of the CAD program we use at work. They come out with a new version every year. I find that all the good stuff has been changed around and takes 3 or 4 more commands to do the same thing you use to be able to do in 1 or 2 clicks.

It's like somebody in programming got a new mouse and they just love the way it clicks so they make it take more clicks to do something.
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Wipe it and install Windows 7 ;-)

I hate getting new versions of the CAD program we use at work. They come out with a new version every year. I find that all the good stuff has been changed around and takes 3 or 4 more commands to do the same thing you use to be able to do in 1 or 2 clicks.

It's like somebody in programming got a new mouse and they just love the way it clicks so they make it take more clicks to do something.
I was a CAD monkey (Tool Design, nc programmer, and Engineering Applications Analyst, over a 15 year period) What specific CAD program?

I am fluent in CATIA V4, V5, and older versions of Pro-E.
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OP, you mean Win8?
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Old 09-12-2014, 04:58 AM
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OP, you mean Win8?
The sales tool at BB said it was Windows 9. Maybe it's 8. All I know for sure is that it's a lot different from Vista.
How do I find out for sure what version it is?
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Old 09-12-2014, 06:14 AM
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The sales tool at BB said it was Windows 9. Maybe it's 8. All I know for sure is that it's a lot different from Vista.
How do I find out for sure what version it is?
Maybe 8.1 unless they are loading alpha/beta stuff on your computer.
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I've heard a few others call 8.1 "Windows 9" - it's totally incorrect though....
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I heard that too. They called 8.1 Windows 9.
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I too am a cad monkey, and yes windows 8.1 is garbage.
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Has there ever been a version of windows that didn't completely suck?

XP was the best ever version but it was still buggy as all get out.
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Stardock will make windows 8.1 look and feel like win 7...... I tried it within 10 minutes of using 8.1, and bought it immediately!
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Maybe 8.1 unless they are loading alpha/beta stuff on your computer.
Yes, it's 8.1
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How Microsoft thought Windows 8 was a releasable product is inexplicable. That you have to add third party tools to make it useful is ridiculous. I only use it on a virtual machine for testing old browsers but my first experience was horrible.
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I was a CAD monkey (Tool Design, nc programmer, and Engineering Applications Analyst, over a 15 year period) What specific CAD program?

I am fluent in CATIA V4, V5, and older versions of Pro-E.
Wow, CATIA is really high dollar isn't it? Didn't they use it to design the Boeing 777?

We use SolidWorks 2014. I wouldn't exactly call myself a CAD monkey or claim to be very fluent in the program, it's only about 1/10th of my job, but I do some design work for heavy gauge vacuum formed plastic parts and a little desktop 3D printing on a Makerbot Replicator 2X.

Back OT, really... Win 7 is not bad at all. You should love it compared to Vista. I stuck with XP and skipped Vista until Win 7 had been out for a while. Everyone I know hated Vista.
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Back OT, really... Win 7 is not bad at all. You should love it compared to Vista. I stuck with XP and skipped Vista until Win 7 had been out for a while. Everyone I know hated Vista.
I bought a vista computer on purpose - because I wanted to experiences (professional curiosity) - I put up with it for about a week - then upgraded it free to win7 - that's the machine I use as a work desktop now.

My laptop is win 8.1 - but I put classic shell on it - and it works just like win 7 for the most part - except when I accidentally drop into the win8 panels side, whereupon I jump right back - my laptop even has a touch screen - I hate it... I'm programmer ffs - why do I want to replace my keyboard + mouse?
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Just disable the Metro interface and W8.1 is a s good as W7. Noticeably faster. However the absence on zooming in desktop mode makes it feel uncomfortable on a tablet.
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Great thing about 8.1 is that it only takes about 15 seconds for the PC to become fully operational after turning it on.
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Great thing about 8.1 is that it only takes about 15 seconds for the PC to become fully operational after turning it on.
That's what I like as well. Win7 just churns and churns against the disk while Win8 is up and ready to go. I do not like the Modern or Metro or whatever interface, but I will take the speed of use in every way over Win7 any day.
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That's what I like as well. Win7 just churns and churns against the disk while Win8 is up and ready to go. I do not like the Modern or Metro or whatever interface, but I will take the speed of use in every way over Win7 any day.
Humans don't like change. I initially hated 8.1, but as I'm getting used to it, I like it and I'm sure that in a week, I'll love it and won't believe I stuck with Vista so long.
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I'm sure that in a week, I'll love it and won't believe I stuck with Vista so long.
You might be right. I think the comment above about XP being 'buggy' are out of touch with reality. Your long term use of Vista demonstrates that like any new OS, updates happen and stability ensues. In 2012, 10 years after it released, XP remained nearly as popular across the enterprise desktop, declining since only because MS finally withdrew support and XP is being replaced by Windows 7- which is 5 years old. (Source ZDNet Aug, 2013. and NetMarketShare, 2014)

The truth is that Windows 7 is viewed as the most popular OS yet, enjoyed an adoption rate above XP, quickly surpassed Windows Vista, and will likely only fold to Windows '9' (or whatever the branding will be).

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