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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 09-28-2013, 11:41 AM
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Top Speed?

I looked around, but did not find a compilation of top speeds, or 0-60 or 1/4mi times (I know these can vary +/- depending on conditions) for each model / option.

So, can anyone list the E39 performance numbers? Say a 525iT auto and a 540i 6sp and an M5? Just to show the range, and the difference the transmission or rear gearing make.

Personally, I'd love to find out what my car would do, but I'm thinking I'd need to actually take it to a drag strip as well as an airfield to find out given my particular mods. Until then, I just make it up. I figure 4.8 0-60, 12.7 1/4 mile, and top speed of 170mph sounds about right - but I'm just pulling numbers out of the air.
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Old 09-28-2013, 03:15 PM
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google and youtube...top end on all bmw's that I am aware of is 155 elect regulated.
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Old 09-28-2013, 04:32 PM
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google and youtube...top end on all bmw's that I am aware of is 155 elect regulated.
I have ECU programming that removed the limiter, and about 130hp more than stock.
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:02 PM
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With a unique setup your 'limits' will be unique...I suggest get some kahunas...and get to a track...No one will be able to replicate you vehicles times without your exact output so your point is moot
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Old 09-28-2013, 05:31 PM
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I am really impressed with how stable my 540 is at 120.
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Old 09-28-2013, 07:01 PM
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:41 PM
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I have taken the car upto 150 MPH (did not hit the limit) with my entire family asleep in the car on a long drive last year and was completely comfortable with the way it was responding and handling. Gave me the confidence that it was safe. Would not have dared to do it on many other similar spec cars!
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Old 09-28-2013, 08:44 PM
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I am really impressed with how stable my 540 is at 120.
Agreed. I got up to (well supposedly) 125mph last month driving back from Mt St Helens and was also impressed how stable mine was as well. A bit on the noisy side of course, but stable lol. Granted it was probably 120 instead of 125 saying we all know that spedometers can be optimistic. Either way, I still wanna go faster My only fear is that if I push it, something will break (probably cooling system) and the car will be dead.

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Old 09-28-2013, 10:48 PM
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Was less interested in how fast people have gone, and thinking more about what the upper limit is.

Say you have a 525i - top speed is likely lower than an M5, even if you've done suspension mods so it handles the speed without issue. Is the top speed of a 525i 140mph? 150? What about the 530i - what does it offer over the 525i in terms of getting down the 1/4 mile quicker, and stuff like that.

Really, I'm trying to figure out what the top speed of my wagon is. The higher gears in back help acceleration but will mechanically limit the throrhetically top speed. But it's very likely that top speed is drag limited, not gear limited in a 540iT. So how much more hp does it take to go that much faster? And compared to an M5 - which I blindly presume has a higher top speed given the 6 speed manual and 3.15 gearing - what does it top out at?

I'm not likely to take my car to a drag strip - I don't want to abuse it. And for a top speed run - well, similar issue plus I don't know where I would have enough legal space to try it except drive out to the salt flats. But it would be nice to know on paper what my car could do.
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Old 09-28-2013, 11:29 PM
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Ok - I did some quick monkey math, let me know if I messed up my calculations:

M5 does 186mph at 6500 rpm, with 6th gear at 0.827, and a 3.15 rear end. It can push that fast, so it appears to be to gear limited.

My car's 5th gear is 0.80, but with a rear of 3.45, overall I'm geared too high to match the M5. My calculator started to smoke, but I came up with 174.5mph at 6500rpm for my setup. Now, I believe the Dinan ECU map pushes the redline up a bit, maybe 1-200rpms, so diming it past redline I can possibly make it to 180 tops. If the M5 can cut through the air with 400hp/370tq, my car should be able to hopefully do the same with 415/400.

But I'll err on the side of not blowing up the car and stick with my 175mph top speed guesstimate. I should be somewhere in the 12's 1/4 mile - probably close to 12.7 - again using the M5's vastly different engine and gear ratios to ballpark what my setup could do.
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I am really impressed with how stable my 540 is at 120.
Get caught doing it and you'll be even more impressed with the consequences.
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Old 09-29-2013, 11:28 AM
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Don't bother with calculations based on gearing and RPM. The 540i 6 speed will reach its maximum speed in 5th gear, not 6th. If you change to 6th it slows down. Kind of like climbing a hill in too high a gear. Wind resistance, mechanical resistance and weight vs HP limits the car. A 540 will make the 155 limiter (GPS verified) but even if the limiter is removed, there isn't much more there. Maybe another 5-7 mph or so. An M5 on a very good day might make 175. It takes a lot of power to move something as large and heavy as an e39 through the air at very high speeds.
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Old 09-29-2013, 02:33 PM
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Get caught doing it and you'll be even more impressed with the consequences.
I had an emergency; I told the police department I was coming and what I was driving. Blew past 2 cops in the process. Non-issue.
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Old 09-29-2013, 04:13 PM
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Top Speeds are listed in the owners guide that came with the car.


Mine as about 240 KM/phr I think !
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Old 09-29-2013, 04:23 PM
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I had an emergency; I told the police department I was coming and what I was driving. Blew past 2 cops in the process. Non-issue.
Yea right.

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Yea right.

BS detector pegged.
Mine was pegged in the title...then the math!
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Old 09-29-2013, 05:25 PM
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Mine was pegged in the title...then the math!


The car is electronically limited to 155mph. I was just asking what the actual top speed of each model is, limiter removed.

As for my math - I did as suggested, went on Google and found the top speed of a stock M5 and what rpm, and compared that to my car - which has more power and torque than a stock M5, but slightly higher gearing in top gear, so I'd probably lose 10 mph off the M5's limit.

And the reason for this thread is bc we're not all driving 80's Geo Metros where you can test top speed with the flow of traffic on the highway. If there was someplace legal nearby that I could do a top speed run, I might find out "for real", but until then all I have is math and comparisons to others who have access to such roads.
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:41 PM
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There's got to be a track somewhere near you. My closest tracks are Mid America Motor and Hastings road course.. I haven't made my way to either yet but both host track days. Check it out. Track days are great I did one at PIR long ago.
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Old 09-29-2013, 08:51 PM
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I looked around, but did not find a compilation of top speeds, or 0-60 or 1/4mi times
Well, I only googled for a second or two and clicked on the first page of links, but this table of E39 top speeds came up (along with many others).

http://www.bmwinfo.com/25480.html
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Model: Engine: Power: Topspeed: Year:

520i M52 6 cylinder 150 HP 220 km/h 1996 - 2000
520i M54 6 cylinder 170 HP 226 km/h 2000 - 2003
523i M52 6 cylinder 170 HP 228 km/h 1995 - 2000
525i M54 6 cylinder 192 HP 238 km/h 2000 - 2003
528i M52 6 cylinder 193 HP 236 km/h 1995 - 2000
530i M54 6 cylinder 231 HP 250 km/h 2000 - 2003
535i M62 8 cylinder 235 HP 242 km/h 1996 - 2000
535i M62 8 cylinder 245 HP 247 km/h 2000 - 2003
540i M62 8 cylinder 286 HP 250 km/h 1996 - 2003

520d M47 4 cylinder 136 HP 206 km/h 2000 - 2003
525d 6 cylinder 163 HP 219 km/h 2000 - 2003
525td M51 6 cylinder 115 HP 198 km/h 1995 - 2000
525tds M51 6 cylinder 143 HP 211 km/h 1995 - 2000
530d M57 6 cylinder 184 HP 225 km/h 1998 - 2003



BMW E39 Touring *******>********>
Model: Engine: Power: Topspeed: Year:

520i M52 6 cylinder 150 HP 212 km/h 1996 - 2000
520i M54 6 cylinder 170 HP 223 km/h 2000 - 2004
523i M52 6 cylinder 170 HP 224 km/h 1996 - 2000
525i M54 6 cylinder 192 HP 235 km/h 2000 - 2004
528i M52 6 cylinder 193 HP 233 km/h 1996 - 2000
530i M54 6 cylinder 231 HP 250 km/h 2000 - 2004
540i M62 8 cylinder 286 HP 250 km/h 1996 - 2004

520d M47 4 cylinder 136 HP 205 km/h 2000 - 2004
525d 6 cylinder 163 HP 215 km/h 2000 - 2004
525tds M51 6 cylinder 143 HP 210 km/h 1996 - 2000
530d M57 6 cylinder 184 HP 225 km/h 1998 - 2004
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I have ECU programming that removed the limiter, and about 130hp more than stock.
Is this on a 540? Where did you get it programmed?


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Old 09-29-2013, 09:06 PM
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Dinan supercharged 540iT, with supporting mods (Dinan: HFIM, HFAMM, CAI, HFTB, catback, ECU).
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Dinan supercharged 540iT, with supporting mods (Dinan: HFIM, HFAMM, CAI, HFTB, catback, ECU).
Picture of the engine please.
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Picture of the engine please.


I posted a bunch of pics today in the "E39 pics" thread too.





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Geez OP, how can you handle the stress of owning a supercharged 540 and always following the speed limit? That takes a lotta strength!
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