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BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 01-11-2012, 08:49 PM
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New shock/springs on a 535i? How much labor?

Hey Guys!

I am looking to lower my ride a bit with sport shock/springs and/or coilovers. I've been hesitant to spend the 2.5k on coilovers but i've talked to 3 shops and they all quoted me 8 hours to do all 4 corners. At that cost, I figure I need to do it right but am having a very hard time believing it takes 2 hours a corner for shock/springs.

Has anyone done this on their 535 (e60) and, if so, is that labor quote way off? I get the feeling these shops, even though they work on BMW's, haven't done this kind of work and are going off of their computer quotes.

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Old 01-11-2012, 10:06 PM
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No offense, but I don't understand why somebody would want to spend $2,500.00 to make a gorgeous BMW look ghetto. This lowering crap is for Hondas, not BMWs. You don't even know if the car will ride properly after spending this much money on something not needed.
You would probably save money and enjoy the quality of the ride better by finding a 535 with the sport package.
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No offense, but I don't understand why somebody would want to spend $2,500.00 to make a gorgeous BMW look ghetto. This lowering crap is for Hondas, not BMWs. You don't even know if the car will ride properly after spending this much money on something not needed.
You would probably save money and enjoy the quality of the ride better by finding a 535 with the sport package.
Agreed, "ghetto" says it all...
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Hey Guys!

I am looking to lower my ride a bit with sport shock/springs and/or coilovers. I've been hesitant to spend the 2.5k on coilovers but i've talked to 3 shops and they all quoted me 8 hours to do all 4 corners. At that cost, I figure I need to do it right but am having a very hard time believing it takes 2 hours a corner for shock/springs.

Has anyone done this on their 535 (e60) and, if so, is that labor quote way off? I get the feeling these shops, even though they work on BMW's, haven't done this kind of work and are going off of their computer quotes.

Thanks!
Do you think the ride and handling of your car after your mods will be anything near what it was with the original equipment? I think you are making a huge mistake, and you will destroy any resale value.
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Hey Guys!

I am looking to lower my ride a bit with sport shock/springs and/or coilovers. I've been hesitant to spend the 2.5k on coilovers but i've talked to 3 shops and they all quoted me 8 hours to do all 4 corners. At that cost, I figure I need to do it right but am having a very hard time believing it takes 2 hours a corner for shock/springs.

Has anyone done this on their 535 (e60) and, if so, is that labor quote way off? I get the feeling these shops, even though they work on BMW's, haven't done this kind of work and are going off of their computer quotes.

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To answer your question - the install is going to be in the $800 range (quoted by my local indy shop) so you quotes are not far off.

Man - you got some HARSH replies that were not called for. This is a forum for information exchange, not judgement day. So CHILL OUT everyone -

I am looking at KW coilovers for my wagon which also has Dinan S2 s/w. There are several posts on the E61 site of great looking wagons with KW installs lowered SLIGHTLY. None of them were "ghetto" looking and the ride/cornering was improved dramatically.

If you lall ike your car stock looking, it's cool - just don't slam people who are different than you.

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To answer your question - the install is going to be in the $800 range (quoted by my local indy shop) so you quotes are not far off.

Man - you got some HARSH replies that were not called for. This is a forum for information exchange, not judgement day. So CHILL OUT everyone -

I am looking at KW coilovers for my wagon which also has Dinan S2 s/w. There are several posts on the E61 site of great looking wagons with KW installs lowered SLIGHTLY. None of them were "ghetto" looking and the ride/cornering was improved dramatically.

If you lall ike your car stock looking, it's cool - just don't slam people who are different than you.

Like I tell my kids "If you don't have anything helpful to say, don't say anything"

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Thank you for your great input. I do not think anyone's comment is insulting but their opinion. I have found in past that sometimes I make aggresive decision without knowing everything and this forum has pointed me out which saved me spending something which i should not.

It is just my opinion.
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I had aftermarket springs which ran $275 for labor - took 4 hours. Later on I had Bilstein shocks put on - took 5 hours. When I went back to stock shocks and springs, pulling off the aftermarket springs and Bilsteins, it was 5 hours and ran me $500.

If you're going to do it I'd recommend coilovers, as the springs and dampers are designed to match and pair perfectly with each other. Doing anything else is a crapshoot.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:30 AM
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sigh.. nothing like being judged. I'm very glad everyone who feels like it would "affect my resale", make it look "ghetto" and "destroy the handling" have their cars perfect. If you hadn't noticed, the car is highly modded already (engine) and I have handling/traction issues that need resolution. One way to do that is with an updated suspension. It's putting down almost 400hp and 475tq to the rear wheels and even with 275's, it still breaks traction pretty easily. Lowering the car will help with both the traction issues and the "floaty" nature of this car over 120. As you can probably guess, it is taken to the track (I don't do that on the streets) so please, before you throw out an uninformed opinion, you may want to ask why. Honestly guys - I expected more out of the 5'er crowd.

Judge me all you want for taking a 5 to the track. Nothing like legally racing then driving home in the same car.

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I had aftermarket springs which ran $275 for labor - took 4 hours. Later on I had Bilstein shocks put on - took 5 hours. When I went back to stock shocks and springs, pulling off the aftermarket springs and Bilsteins, it was 5 hours and ran me $500.
This is about what I figured - 5 hours. Replacing a shock means you are already right there at the spring, so the labor is minimal. Having done this before on other cars, I just couldn't imagine it taking 2 hours per wheel. Thanks for confirming.

I definitely will use either coilovers or a matched spring/shock combo. The car is heavy enough to shred a shock quickly if the balance isn't right.

PS - In case you were curious, the car runs a 4.289 0-60 and 12.7 1/4 mile (before a new exhaust, larger tires and methanol injection were added - should run close to a 12.1 now - maybe into the 11's).
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Re:I am looking at KW coilovers for my wagon which also has Dinan S2 s/w. There are several posts on the E61 site of great looking wagons with KW installs lowered SLIGHTLY. None of them were "ghetto" looking and the ride/cornering was improved dramatically.

Our family hauler is a 2008 535xi wagon as well. I have it chipped with JB+ set to max, gives it equivalent power of a V8. Huge torque increase which is perfect with that set-up.
I am still on stock rims as i hope they can get the car through the winter with the AWD and all season rubber. Come spring I will add wider 18" wheels which should improve ride quality and handling.
It rides much taller than my 535 Sport sedan, and I would be very interested in your verdict if you proceed with coilovers. The car has 70,000 miles so at some point it will need new springs. That's when I would look at upgrading the full suspension.
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I recently replaced my suspension with Bilstein Coilovers, It took me around 1/2 hr for each corner at the rear end, then around an hour each corner at the front end as there is more to remove, then another 1/2 to 3/4 hr setting the suspensin up. After that i drove the car to get it 4 wheel alligned so its all cosey. If you are after KW coilovers i know some one in the UK - Ray West Tunning, he is selling KW v3 coilovers for the e60 at 1000.00 a set, Normally 1400.00 as he bought 15 sets several monthes ago, i dont know what 1K in Dollers is but it may be worth a chat to see if he can post them to the US as they are lots cheeper then in the US
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No offense, but I don't understand why somebody would want to spend $2,500.00 to make a gorgeous BMW look ghetto. This lowering crap is for Hondas, not BMWs. You don't even know if the car will ride properly after spending this much money on something not needed.
You would probably save money and enjoy the quality of the ride better by finding a 535 with the sport package.
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Agreed, "ghetto" says it all...
How is it ghetto to lower your car? I think many of you guys throw around the word ghetto to loosely without warrant. I could understand if the OP said he's thinking about putting 26 inch floating dubs on his e60, then yes, a ghetto remark is called for.

Lowering your car and doing it right, not half ass, will actually it improve its handling, not to mention its aesthetic appeal...

So are you two saying these cars are ghetto?

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...r-dsc02065.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/chuckd/rac_m5_2.jpg

http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo...11/01/1456.jpg

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how is it ghetto to lower your car? I think many of you guys throw around the word ghetto to loosely without warrant. I could understand if the op said he's thinking about putting 26 inch floating dubs on his e60, then yes, a ghetto remarked is called for.

Lowering your car and doing it right, not half ass, will actually it improve its handling, not to mention its aesthetic appeal...

So are you two saying these cars are ghetto?

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...r-dsc02065.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/chuckd/rac_m5_2.jpg

http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo...11/01/1456.jpg

http://www.bmwheaven.com/gallery/ima...1858416003.jpg
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Ragtop's friend has an amazing price, under $1,550. Best I have seen in US is Jlevisw for around $2,300. Might be worth shipping by boat then. Shouldn't be too expensive for freight, takes 2 weeks.

Considering the OP's wicked new gun metal 19" rims, this will make him the instant king mack daddy in the hood. He'll be way past the ghetto label and going all out pimp with fur dashboard and flame PJ. Some blue neon LEDs under the rocker panels would seal it.
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I recently replaced my suspension with Bilstein Coilovers, It took me around 1/2 hr for each corner at the rear end, then around an hour each corner at the front end as there is more to remove, then another 1/2 to 3/4 hr setting the suspensin up. After that i drove the car to get it 4 wheel alligned so its all cosey. If you are after KW coilovers i know some one in the UK - Ray West Tunning, he is selling KW v3 coilovers for the e60 at 1000.00 a set, Normally 1400.00 as he bought 15 sets several monthes ago, i dont know what 1K in Dollers is but it may be worth a chat to see if he can post them to the US as they are lots cheeper then in the US
Hey Steve, I am definitely interested as long as there is no differences in fitment for a euro e60 and a US e60 (as i'm in the states). Is he a member here? If not, can you PM me his email? At the current exchange rate that is about $1200 (if it's euros) which is a steal! Thank you very much for that confirmation ont eh time as well! That is a huge help!

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How is it ghetto to lower your car? I think many of you guys throw around the word ghetto to loosely without warrant. I could understand if the OP said he's thinking about putting 26 inch floating dubs on his e60, then yes, a ghetto remark is called for.

Lowering your car and doing it right, not half ass, will actually it improve its handling, not to mention its aesthetic appeal...
You got me.. i'm actually going with 28" dub chrome spinners with gravity activated LED's.

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http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/e60...5-reviews.html

Ragtop's friend has an amazing price, under $1,550. Best I have seen in US is Jlevisw for around $2,300. Might be worth shipping by boat then. Shouldn't be too expensive for freight, takes 2 weeks.

Considering the OP's wicked new gun metal 19" rims, this will make him the instant king mack daddy in the hood. He'll be way past the ghetto label and going all out pimp with fur dashboard and flame PJ. Some blue neon LEDs under the rocker panels would seal it.
Pics please!
They are coming soon man - promise! Hey, as an aside.. any ideas on import customs fees for these?

BTW - the fur dashboard is not something I had considered.. I wonder if they make it in purple....
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Don't think there would be any duty. Ask the seller to investigate and quote you a full price delivered to your doorstep.
PS price was in UK pound sterling, so multiply by 1.53
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How is it ghetto to lower your car?
+1 I was thinking the same thing when I read the 3 ppl after the OP earlier in the day (didn't have time to post) and I was going to come back and say the exact same thing. But it looks like enough others have refuted this nonsense(calling high end coilover suspension ghetto) already.
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This is what I will do,,,,

0044 1264 773839

That is his phone number, I will be picking up my car Friday afternoon, can't wait, I have all ready heard the tone,s to the twin exit exhaust but it's being remapped and some other stuff,,,

I can ask him if he will post to the US, I will also ask if he will eBay them and payment through pay pal to safe guard you, as far as fitment go,s I am sure there won't be a problem.

If u want the I could even get them and do it through paypal,,, more info and a email address Friday,

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Just a recap

1000.0
Say 60.00pap
Total 1060.00 = 1626 US Dollers or there abouts, I will try and sort this if you want them and find out how much p&p is
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At the risk of being " ghetto" I installed kw's on my e61 it was the only option for xi's and I love them best lower option IMO for our cars. Many 5 series owners have tried the "spring" option only to be disappointed.

I do belive non xi's have more less expensive options. As far as install price I would not pay more than $500. Check your local bmwcca they usaually have track days and understand the idea of lowering a car. And might know some shops.
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Just a recap

1000.0
Say 60.00pap
Total 1060.00 = 1626 US Dollers or there abouts, I will try and sort this if you want them and find out how much p&p is
Hey Steve!

Yes, I would love it if you wouldn't mind just asking him. I don't want to unduly burden you but just finding out if he is willing to ship overseas would be awesome!

Thank you so much!
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I bought the Bilstein Coilovers at 970.00, i would have bought the KW's if he had told me but it was to late.......

Shame i dont live over there with you guy's,,,,,,,,, I have a work shop or "Man Cage" over hear, i do suspension swaps and minor servicing for friends and several other e60 owners and the dredded swirl flap removal is getting popular as well, I know my limitations and know when to say NO, I cant do that,,,,,,

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Yes, I would love it if you wouldn't mind just asking him. I don't want to unduly burden you but just finding out if he is willing to ship overseas would be awesome!

Thank you so much!
Not a problem, i will let you know asap and it's no burden, glad to help.
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3 out of those 4 look ghetto enough that I wouldn't want to be seen driving them to my offices.
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3 out of those 4 look ghetto enough that I wouldn't want to be seen driving them to my offices.
Yes maybe but mainly because of the wheels right? Just a guess but number 2 was the one that you consider not Ghetto... right/wrong?
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How is it ghetto to lower your car? I think many of you guys throw around the word ghetto to loosely without warrant. I could understand if the OP said he's thinking about putting 26 inch floating dubs on his e60, then yes, a ghetto remark is called for.

Lowering your car and doing it right, not half ass, will actually it improve its handling, not to mention its aesthetic appeal...

So are you two saying these cars are ghetto?

http://www.m5board.com/vbulletin/att...r-dsc02065.jpg

http://members.roadfly.com/chuckd/rac_m5_2.jpg

http://www.benzboost.com/images/impo...11/01/1456.jpg

http://www.bmwheaven.com/gallery/ima...1858416003.jpg
#1 -- Very ghetto!

#2 -- I can live with it!

#3 -- Ghetto!

#4 -- Ghetto!

BTW: The wheels on all four of those cars wouldn't last 1 week in NYC!

My point on all of this is I don't see the point on spending $2500 on a lowering kit for a BMW, not to mention certain other mods. Wouldn't it just be cheaper to buy an M5, no? The car the OP has pictured looks fantastic. Why ruin perfection?
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