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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 03-12-2012, 01:30 PM
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Matching Fog Lights w/ Xenon w/ good light output?

Do these exist? I got the GP Thunder and these don't even illuminate my driveway at night.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:34 PM
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Do these exist? I got the GP Thunder and these don't even illuminate my driveway at night.
You'll never find a bulb that matches Xenon color temperature but has good light output as well; the best compromises are PIAA or Silverstar bulbs. GP Thunders are cheap Chinese bulbs designed to look blue and not much more. In the end you have to decide between color and light output.

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Old 03-12-2012, 01:45 PM
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Was hoping that wasn't the case, have any pictures of the PIAA or Silverstars?
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:58 PM
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Make sure you aim the lights, too. Phillips screwdriver, left or right means up or down. Not as critical as headlights, just make sure they're even and at least 12" below (corona below corona) the headlights on a wall at a few feet.
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Old 03-12-2012, 01:59 PM
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You'll never find a bulb that matches Xenon color temperature but has good light output as well; the best compromises are PIAA or Silverstar bulbs. GP Thunders are cheap Chinese bulbs designed to look blue and not much more. In the end you have to decide between color and light output.
That's not exactly true... you can get xenon fogs ya know.
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Old 03-12-2012, 03:57 PM
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That's not exactly true... you can get xenon fogs ya know.
I'm well aware of aftermarket HID upgrades to foglights; the question was focused on a simple bulb replacement that matched factory color. There are plenty of kits that allow a 9006 bulb rebased to D2S connectors, with ballasts for around a hundred bucks, but they're pretty cheap and can lead to electrical problems...

Having Xenon foglights pretty much defeats the purpose of foglights, other than pure appearance; 2500 to 3000K is optimal color spectrum in dark and rainy conditions, as well as fog, and you definitely don't want intensity so strong that it reflects off of the weather and back into your vision.

But to each his own- I'm just not a fan of foglights for looks-only.

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Old 03-12-2012, 04:55 PM
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What type of kit would be plug and play of any?
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:32 PM
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What type of kit would be plug and play of any?
I have Tenon Kits in all my cars that I actually picked up for about $70 from a flea market in MD. They have been in for over 4 years with warning cancelling modules and I haven't had and problems. They are plug and play and the hardest part of the install was finding a good hiding place for the ballasts.
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Old 03-12-2012, 05:36 PM
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Any others with a Link possibly?
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Old 03-12-2012, 06:18 PM
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I ordered the PIAA's extra white.. I'll let you know how they look with Xenons and the Burger LED AE's.
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Old 03-12-2012, 08:42 PM
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Any reccomendations on the kit on stealthauto?
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Old 05-24-2012, 04:00 PM
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I ordered the PIAA's extra white.. I'll let you know how they look with Xenons and the Burger LED AE's.
Update?
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Old 05-24-2012, 07:22 PM
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Eh, they're ok . They are white, but they when they are on with the LED AE's and the Xenons, they look cheap.. like a cheap white vs. the bright whites... if you know what I mean. They are functional as fog lights, but for looks, not great.

I don't think any plug and play bulb, unless you get something that CONTRASTS the LED AEs/XENONs will look good... I was thinking maybe a deep blue (I know, not functional) or a really dark yellow.. but not sure if they exist.
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Old 05-24-2012, 08:18 PM
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Eh, they're ok . They are white, but they when they are on with the LED AE's and the Xenons, they look cheap.. like a cheap white vs. the bright whites... if you know what I mean. They are functional as fog lights, but for looks, not great.

I don't think any plug and play bulb, unless you get something that CONTRASTS the LED AEs/XENONs will look good... I was thinking maybe a deep blue (I know, not functional) or a really dark yellow.. but not sure if they exist.
Bummer. Your car is LCI correct? Are the Burger LEDs the direct replacement of the H8 bulb type with four LEDs? How do they compare to stock during day time?
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Old 05-24-2012, 09:54 PM
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Update on mine, I upgraded the Fogs to 6000k HIDs and they match great, some times there is a slight tint of blue if I had to buy again I'd go with 5000k, that being said you have to make sure these aren't pointed ahead towards drivers and actually towards to road to do you any good as far as their actual functionality goes.
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Old 05-24-2012, 10:19 PM
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Although speaking of lights, has anyone replaced their reverse bulb with an LED? Is this possible without an error?
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:56 PM
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Bummer. Your car is LCI correct? Are the Burger LEDs the direct replacement of the H8 bulb type with four LEDs? How do they compare to stock during day time?

It is LCI. The Burger LEDs are a plug and play replacement for the stock AE's. They look awesome, match the Xenons perfectly. Blow the stock out of the water.
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Old 05-25-2012, 02:57 PM
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Update on mine, I upgraded the Fogs to 6000k HIDs and they match great, some times there is a slight tint of blue if I had to buy again I'd go with 5000k, that being said you have to make sure these aren't pointed ahead towards drivers and actually towards to road to do you any good as far as their actual functionality goes.

In order to update your fogs with HID, you have to do some rewiring correct?
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Old 05-25-2012, 05:36 PM
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In order to update your fogs with HID, you have to do some rewiring correct?
If you get plug & play, like I did, there is no rewiring. You just are basically plugging the ballast in between the bulb & the light socket. I purchased the 35w Canbus hid's from Umnitza. They rock
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Old 05-25-2012, 09:49 PM
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If you get plug & play, like I did, there is no rewiring. You just are basically plugging the ballast in between the bulb & the light socket. I purchased the 35w Canbus hid's from Umnitza. They rock
Exactly what he said, I got the kit from Umnitza.
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I just upgraded the terrible yellowish dim stock fog/driving lights on my 650 with an HID kit, its the only way to go in my opinion....

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Old 04-12-2014, 11:27 PM
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Sure, ill see if I can take some tomorrow for you. Pics don't do it justice though as its a 55 watt kit and its actually much brighter than the stock HID headlights. I first got the 6k kit but that was too blue, so I got the 5000k bulbs and out those in. I just ordered the D2S bulbs for the main headlights in 5000k also, as the stock ones are 4300 and don't match the fogs now. I have been messing around with HID lights forever on different cars and motorcycles, so if you have any questions about them, feel free to ask.

Actually, I do have a picture that was taken during the day. Passenger side is stock halogen, drivers side is HID.

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Sweet , I have been thinking to upgrade mine but I don't wanna end up looking like a cheap after market upgrade.
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Sweet , I have been thinking to upgrade mine but I don't wanna end up looking like a cheap after market upgrade.
Nah, don't worry about that as long as you get the right ones. Its the same OEM BMW light housing, so that wont look any different, all that you are changing that is at all visible is the bulbs. What makes HID's look cheap and aftermarket is when you get a very blue or purple color. Some people think this looks good, I personally do not. Do some research on color temperatures or Kelvin on these lights. There are many charts online that will show the colors.

a 3000k Kelvin bulb is yellow. Stock on my car (06 650) is 4300k, which is whiter than a standard halogen bulb, but still has a very little bit of yellow in it. 5000k is pretty much pure white and 6000 is white with a slight blue color. To play it safe, I would stick with the 5000k or maybe the 6000k, but anything above that will look aftermarket for sure. Some people like the 6000k while others would think even that is too blue, its all subjective. But ill tell you this, as you increase the color temperature, you actually get less light (lumens)even though the eye may perceive the slight blue of a 6000k as brighter.

Also, you have a choice between a 35 watt and a 55 watt ballast. Headlights are always 35 watt from the factory but all of mine are always 55 watt and they are much brighter. As you go from the 35 watt to the 55 watt, it lowers the bulb color a little. So a 6000k will look like somewhere in between a 5000 and a 6000. I always go with 5000k 55 watt ones. Here is a pic of me driving last night so you can see what it looks like. This is the 5000k fog lights, but the headlights are still the stock 4300 ones. My 5000k bulbs are on their way, and that will look better once those are in. I would like to change the stock ballasts out for a set of 55 watt ones, but I haven't looked to see how difficult that is yet as the ballast is integrated into the stock light housing. It would look brighter and whiter with the new bulbs in, especially because these are 8 years old and they get worn out over time. Sorry that its blurry, I was moving at the time. Also, this road was pretty well lit, ill have to take some more pics on a dark road when I get the new bulbs installed.


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