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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 01-02-2012, 06:18 PM
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I hadn't looked at this post in a while and then when driving the car today it slammed into gear, sending everything in the space above the shifter into the floor. So frustrating BMW won't admit there is a problem.
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Old 01-02-2012, 06:42 PM
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Here's the worst news. 5k miles on my brand new tranny and it sucks. Still surges and can't decide when and what gear to be in.
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Old 01-03-2012, 09:22 AM
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I hadn't looked at this post in a while and then when driving the car today it slammed into gear, sending everything in the space above the shifter into the floor. So frustrating BMW won't admit there is a problem.
Yeah, it is ridiculous. Mine surged today after putting it in drive, and if I had not of still had my foot still on the brake, while waiting on a car to pass, before I drove away, my car would have slammed into the car in front of me. This is a problem.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:38 AM
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I am awaking this sleeping thread. My 545i started doing this 5th gear hiccup problem. I will be replacing my mechatronic the end of the week. Here is where I purchased the unit.
http://www.thectsc.com/
They come preprogrammed and are plug and play. Will chime back in and give update when the job is done.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:42 AM
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may not be that easy. you have to also swap some fluids i believe.
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Old 05-29-2012, 05:10 AM
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Yeah, I am with Motivemods..... I don't think it is that simple. I know they will typically come without fluid because I think it takes like 12 quarts of AFT Fluid that is specific to BMW. So, please make sure that you have all of the steps and perform it properly. I am curious to see how this unfolds as I am almost ready to trade my 06' 525i in if it is going to cost an arm and a leg to have it corrected at the dealership.
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Old 05-29-2012, 06:15 AM
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Thanks guys, I'm a professional technician. I have a case of the proper fluid coming with it.
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Old 05-29-2012, 07:11 AM
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I think all these problems came with mechatronic leaks. If you it could leak into wire harness, so you could drive for months and don't see any leak under the car, only difference could a tranny behavior. Then a lot places where owner had fixed a mechatronic issue and it could serviced with wrong tranny fluid. It's important to use ZF fluid because all valve are designed for specific viscosity, and also after fluid was replaced it should adaptive values are re-set.
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Old 05-29-2012, 11:10 AM
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Hey Mfrasca, when are you going to be putting the new part on your vehicle? I would love to hear about the update as I want to order a part of my vehicle and then have it installed if it works for you.
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:36 PM
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I own an auto repair shop in Natick Ma. The unit is suppose to be here Thursday. Will try an install Friday. Will let you know how I make out. Are you having the Same problem?
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Old 05-29-2012, 04:44 PM
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Yes, I have been dealing with the issue for 2 years now. I keep having the Tranny Adaptation values reset and that resolves the issue for about 6 months to a year and then it starts doing it again. I was thinking that I might have some bad spark plugs or coils, so I was going to attempt to change them as it really doesn't seem the transmission is bad, but who knows.
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Old 05-30-2012, 10:38 PM
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I've been having the issue but it seems to be worse/occur more often in warmer weather. The mechatronic also has to be coded to the vehicle as far as i know unless it comes pre-coded but i don't see how that is possible unless the company providing it has your VIN or the car there. even if they had the VIN i'm not sure it'd work bc the mechatronic has to be connected to the vehicle bus to communicate properly.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:17 PM
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Coded specifically to the vehicle? What a Cluster eff!! Not doubting you but why do this?

I would hope that they could get all the info necessary from build & date codes in the VIN but I am certainly no expert.

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Old 06-03-2012, 06:43 AM
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Installed the Mechatronic Thursday night. Pretty straight forward job. Took me about 4 hours. So far car seems to be fine, can tell it is still going through adaption period. No more 5 gear hiccup, delay going into reverse and hard 2-1 downshift. Time will tell.

And for any of you non believers it is plug and play. This thing comes direct from ZF the people that write the software for BMW. All they needed was the Vin.
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Old 06-03-2012, 12:56 PM
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ah ok so they do code the part in house to the VIN. that's what I figured they would have to do. thanks for letting us know about the verdict! guess this will be the next thing on the list
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Old 06-04-2012, 03:51 AM
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you wouldn't happen to have a step by step DIY on this would you?
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Old 06-04-2012, 06:56 AM
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you wouldn't happen to have a step by step DIY on this would you?
This is what I used.

http://www.zftranspart.com/images/custom/mecha.pdf
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Old 06-19-2012, 11:41 AM
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Glad this worked for you. I think I might order the part as well. I've seen these instructions before, but was a skeptic about it, but glad that someone has had success with it. I really love the car, but can't stand the delayed 2-1 shift that I experience.
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:27 PM
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That may be plausible - I live in Denver, and they use more ethanol in our gas here than is average. I don't think I can escape it though, if that's the case, unless I drive to Texas every time I want to fill up the tank...
you use your 545i as daily driver?
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Old 07-02-2012, 11:40 PM
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i did not go through anything like the problems that some others have had. I just gave the dealer my written comments that i quoted above and told the service rep i would be available to take a test drive. The service technician did not need me to do that.
Here is the write up from the technician:
"test drove car-when vehicle is in 5th gear customer's issue is observed (regardless of manual/sport setting. Issue occurs in 5th). Check fault memory. No relevant faults logged. Check trans fluid level/condition. Fluid slightly grey. But not excessively dark or contaminated. Check vehicle e. Software status and contact zf transmission rep. As per transmission rep, mechatroics/valve body is faulty and requires replacement along with use of new trans oil"
i don't know why there were no faults logged. It's odd how the car will record somethings and not others.
I do have to say that i would rather have had the solution be a software reprogram than this hardware issue since it would have been a lot cheaper but the hardware change does seem to have solved the problem for me.
how often do you need a update
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Old 07-04-2012, 01:42 PM
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So for the past several months I have noticed that when my 5 gets between 35 and 40 mph it starts surging, like it starts loosing power but gains it back, and it only happens within 35-40 and just steady driving. I took it to the dealer, and there are no codes present, the service manager, tech's and the advisor all took a ride and felt it each time. They said they contacted BMW NA and that they wont do anything, unless it throws a code, but when I call them(BMWNA) to talk(complain) about it they tell me it has to have a code as well, and yet I still ask them why I am driving around their car that has issues that they wont fix, and all they can say is sorry until a code comes up. Has anyone had any issues like this with the surging transmission, or know how to talk to Customer Relations so that something does happen? It's just really annoying driving around a car that has issues, and they wont stand behind their product.
I recently had a similar problem with my 2004 525i that I purchased in April 2012 - it would surge forward while coming to a stop. First the dealer replaced a relay (of sorts-$100.00 deductable covered by extended warrantee). Then it happend again a few days later. After a phone call and email, they replaced the transmission, waiving the deductible and a separate warrantee (2yr/24k mi) it runs fine.
Try a different dealer or mechanic is my suggestion.

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Old 07-10-2012, 08:54 AM
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Sounds like a Mechatronics problem. Get ready for a $4000 repair bill and two days of servicing.
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Old 07-26-2012, 10:23 AM
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i'm curious if anyone has had this issue on the later models? I have a 09' 550i and all i have noticed is a slight surge when downshifting from 2nd to 1st while coming to a stop. Is this just the beginning? and should i have it replaced by the dealer while still under warranty?
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:10 PM
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i'm curious if anyone has had this issue on the later models? I have a 09' 550i and all i have noticed is a slight surge when downshifting from 2nd to 1st while coming to a stop. Is this just the beginning? and should i have it replaced by the dealer while still under warranty?
Yes, you should definitely get this addressed while you're under warranty. BMW will definitely try to screw you once your warranty runs out.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:16 PM
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Yes, you should definitely get this addressed while you're under warranty. BMW will definitely try to screw you once your warranty runs out.
Thanks, i really appreciate it and will try and take it within the next couple of weeks.
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