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BMW 5-Series E60 Sedan was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E61 wagon followed shortly there after. The E60/E61 5 series is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 06-04-2013, 11:36 AM
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I have the same transmission surge problem on my E60. Has anyone had a luck by changing
the transmission fluid. Who else can update the transmission program?
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Old 06-04-2013, 11:45 AM
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My remedy was to replace with a new transmission at the dealership.
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Old 06-17-2013, 02:53 PM
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Yea my remedy was the same as Jay25
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Old 06-18-2013, 07:43 AM
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Transmission jolts upon acceleration at 40 MPH

Thanks guys for sharing your solution. I was looking for how to repair it instead of replacing the transmission. I am wondering if changing solenoids and seals will solve the problem.
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Old 06-18-2013, 10:41 AM
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Thanks guys for sharing your solution. I was looking for how to repair it instead of replacing the transmission. I am wondering if changing solenoids and seals will solve the problem.
It most likely will member shpenxel changed his out and solved his shifting issues.
here he is in action check it out...

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Old 07-10-2013, 12:08 AM
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Schpenxel Rocks

Hey All:
Long timer over at an E34 board and bought an 07 550i w 66k miles earlier this year. Had noticed both a delay on going into reverse and the odd hiccup at 37mph but hadn't thought much of either.
Then I spent hours today reading the hundreds and hundreds of posts in this thread. Was horrified at the 2009 posts, then relieved when I read some of the $1500 fix posts then overjoyed when I watched schpenxel tackle this b*tch in his freaking driveway. God hates a coward and Schpenxel has real courage.
I think I have it fairly in hand except for the reset adaptation procedure. Can you help me out on that as well?
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:23 AM
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For that you need a DCAN cable and INPA software. I'll post more info in a bit
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Old 07-10-2013, 04:40 AM
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You need this cable:

http://www.one-stop-electronics.com/...&product_id=16

Others work, but this is the "golden standard" so to speak that everyone uses and it works great.

Then you need to get INPA installed.. follow this guide:

http://bmwcoders.com/forum/bmw-gt1-o...-software-328/

Once you get that done let us know--basically after that you'll just hook everything up and open INPA, select your vehicle model, go to transmission and there's an option in there somewhere to reset adaptations
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Old 07-26-2013, 10:30 PM
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If you turn the key to position 2 (where all the power is on, but do not start the car), then push the throttle all the way down and hold it for 60-90 seconds, the car resets the information that the transmission has "learned" about your driving and begins anew.
Do you know if I can do that on my 2004 BMW 545i ? Hold the accelerator down for 60-90 seconds and the tranni will reprogram ?????
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Old 08-05-2013, 09:52 AM
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Re: 05 545i Transmission Surging Issues help!

my 545i 2003 model also has a similar problem bmw south africa dont repair anything and suggested i replace the gear box at a cost of $4000 you will find that your solonoids might be blocked

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Old 08-05-2013, 10:56 AM
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my 545i 2003 model also has a similar problem bmw south africa dont repair anything and suggested i replace the gear box at a cost of $4000 you will find that your solonoids might be blocked

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In my case on the solenoids that were supposed to be closed when no electricity was applied, I could blow some amount of air through them. On the new ones I couldn't get a bit through them..

I'm not sure if they get clogged or if they wear out and start leaking
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:35 PM
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I have a question regard transmission oil. I have a 2005 530i and so far no issues with the transmission. The car has 116k. I took it to the dealer for a battery cable recall and I had asked about changing the transmission oil. They looked at me funny and said, they never do this. However, I have been to 2 independent shops and both owners recommend changing the oil. What do you guys have to say on this?
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:42 PM
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I have a question regard transmission oil. I have a 2005 530i and so far no issues with the transmission. The car has 116k. I took it to the dealer for a battery cable recall and I had asked about changing the transmission oil. They looked at me funny and said, they never do this. However, I have been to 2 independent shops and both owners recommend changing the oil. What do you guys have to say on this?
First, find a new dealer.

BMW used to call the transmission fluid a "lifetime" fluid.. they have since revised lifetime to mean 100K miles.. so you're due in my opinion

I'd change the oil & filter using a kit from thectsc.com. Reset adaptations afterwards. Some say using other oils is fine, etc. etc. but I've never thought it was worth the risk when you only change it a few times over the life of the car

Oh, and I'm up to 202K miles by the way, 2004 545i. Original transmission

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Old 08-07-2013, 06:51 PM
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First, find a new dealer.

BMW used to call the transmission fluid a "lifetime" fluid.. they have since revised lifetime to mean 100K miles.. so you're due in my opinion

I'd change the oil & filter using a kit from thectsc.com. Reset adaptations afterwards. Some say using other oils is fine, etc. etc. but I've never thought it was worth the risk when you only change it a few times over the life of the car

Oh, and I'm 202K miles by the way, 2004 545i. Original transmission
Thanks man! I will certainly get it changed. I will ask one of the techs at the dealer, maybe the service advisor was mistaken. If the dealer won't do it, then I will go to the independent shop.

Funny enough, I owned a Nissan Maxima as well and I was told that I should never change the transmission oil too. However, after it started began to slip a little I took it to a local mechanic who changed it and I have been fine since.

Btw, 202k miles is solid. I have a 2004 325XI with 157k miles and I just noticed an oil leak.
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Old 08-07-2013, 06:55 PM
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I've read the "never change it.. it will self destruct afterwards" thing a few times.. and after I changed mine the first time, I had a lot of problems so I was regretting having changed it. I basically couldn't use 5th gear any more..It would buck and slam back and forth between gears every few seconds, so I had to manually basically skip over 5th as fast as I could.. HOWEVER, after I finally got my INPA cable I was able to reset adaptations, and that went away. A little later I changed the solenoids too and that got rid of all the errors I was getting and made it so much smoother than it shifted before. It's been find ever since (about 20K miles now)

I think changing tranny fluid gets a bad rap because people never do it until something is already on the way out.. then the transmission stops working right after they change it and they try to blame it all on that, when it was really because they didn't change it 150K miles earlier.

Anyways, enough of that rant That's good mileage out of her!

speaking of which.. I'm probably going to change my fluid again either at the next oil change or the next one.
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:11 AM
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Post Slip and flush

Just went to a local indy shop and they said my pan was real clean on the outside so no sign of leaks. They will do a power flush without dropping the pan for $200. They will drop the pan and change the filter and fluid with flush for $500. Some of the other items they quoted seemed reasonable and based on my conversation they seem to be trustworthy.

I am of the thought that these units tend to leak and the loss of fluid leads to issues. I can imagine a lot of shops not flushing or replacing fluid properly according to the strict BMW procedure and actually causing problems.

I have started to notice in the morning on cold start and take off from a stop sign it seems like the engine is decoupled from the transmission and I hit the gas pedal too quickly and the engine revs up like its in neutral. It gets to about 2-2500 rpm's and then slams together like dumping a clutch and breaks a little traction.

The decoupling is actually a feature for saving fuel while stopped right?
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Old 08-08-2013, 06:12 AM
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Are they going to power flush with zf fluid?
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Old 08-08-2013, 03:16 PM
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The transmission safe-mode recently popped up on my '05 i545 as I was taking off. I cut the car off and cut it back on and the message disappeared, but I noticed that the car would kind of hesitate before taking off. Parked the car in the garage and was getting ready to drive it to the dealership when I got a 'transmission malfunction' warning message in red with the exclamation. I turned the car off and back on again and the message disappeared again, but when I put the car in 'Drive' the car didn't move and the engine just reved as I pressed the gas. I pressed the gas pedal a little harder as the RPMs rose and the car started to slowly creep forward. I also noticed a whirring sound that got louder as I gave the car more gas.

Does this sound like an issue that might be solved by replacing the solenoids?

I figured I would try to change fluid and transmission filter after 131,000 miles, thinking it had not been done. After dropping the undercarriage cover, I didn't find any transmission leaks anywhere. The bottom of the filter looked as if it had been changed. One of the bolts had been stripped and a few appeared replaced. I purchased the car from BMW used 6yrs ago w/34,000 miles on it and I never had the transmission filter replaced.

Now I'm contemplating paying the dealership to diagnose the issue or put that money towards purchasing diagnostic cable & software and read the code(s) myself.
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Old 08-09-2013, 06:15 AM
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I would try putting it over into "manual" mode and try 1 2 and 3 (I think you can get to 3 while sitting still..). Let us know what happens

First also of course check transmission fluid level (easier said than done on these things..)

Also, get a list of the codes
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:54 AM
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Well, after toying with this solution for weeks, I have decided to go for the fix.

For anyone thinking about ordering the parts for this fix, the prices have increased, I guess due to demand and the opportunity to cash in. I ordered from CTSC, regardless, their prices are still the cheapest on th market.

Here are the new prices.
ZF 6HP26 7-piece solenoid kit (1068 298 044) US$462.62
Mechatronic seal adapter (0501 219 952 01) US$17.38
Mechatronic sealing sleeve (0501 216 272 01) US$16.48

Will post back after implementation.

Wish me luck, LOL.
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Old 08-20-2013, 12:09 PM
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Hope it works out.. please let us know

The increase is my commission.. JUST KIDDING!
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Old 08-20-2013, 06:25 PM
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One has to wonder though, BMW/Audi/MB and others use same/similar ZF transmissions. If the problem was that widespread people would have declared war on Germany by now.

I know that the 2006-2009 MB S class also has a known issue requiring the valve body to be changed, you see a lot of complaints related to transmission going into fail safe mode. the symptoms are different, probably due to the auto vendor specific firmware that is running on these transmissions.

Leads me to believe it has to be some combination of driving-style, firmware, oil service intervals etc that is exposing the weakness on these transmissions. I had the transmission oil changed on my 545i around 52k mi when the mechatronics sleeve started to leak. The transmission has been super smooth ever since, not that I had a problem before. I got the mechatronic sleeve changed on the same day I saw the leak, did not let the issue fester at all. But I have learned to treat this car very gingerly, I tend to drive it very gently, progressive with the throttle and the break, no aggression, you get the picture, a true hanger queen.

After having owned multiple BMWs in the last few years, as an engineer I have to say that the fragility of these cars is truly truly deplorable. Seems like BMW are suffering from the illusion that they are manufacturing Ferraris now. These cars do not like to be driven aggressively at all, no matter who might say what. I have seen M5s with the e-diff disintegrating on the track under hard driving. The driver is only meant to enjoy the poise and the promise of performance that may be achieved without ever experiencing it. The feeling of impending doom fueled by the thought of "what is going to fail next", "how much more is this thing going to cost" etc etc has ruined the BMW ownership experience for me, personally speaking.
You have brought tears to my eyes, as I laugh. I do test the crap out of my girlfriends535xi, It's no 545. Every time I get behind my 545 turn the key I wonder if I really had to gun by the guy yesterday, cuz I know some code is going to be thrown at me
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Old 08-21-2013, 12:31 AM
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545i Transmission

Hi

I have just had a service exchange on my BMW 545i E60 2003 model by ZF Transmissions in South Africa. Cost US$3500.00
The car goes great now, the guys at ZF told me BMW transmissions are not good, anyway I now have a year warranty unlimited mileage on the service exchange.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:41 AM
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Hi,

Am I suppose to reset adaptation after I complete the solenoid change? thnx.
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Old 08-25-2013, 11:08 AM
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Yep, definitely.
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