What are you paying for Diesel?

I am not close enough to smell Stinkadena, thank god but years back my wife had to work at one of the refineries out there and the air alone will damage car paint over time so just imagine what it does to people. I just never realized diesel was so close to the same price across the country, knew gasoline varied by such large margins though.

I will gladly pay you Tuesday for some diesel fuel today.

Still hovering around $2.89.9, about the same or slightly less than Premium here in South Florida.

2.799 here, 10 less than supreme or 20 more than regular.

Cheapest here is $2.94, but I paid $3.05 on Thursday (it's not worth the extra drive to save 10c/gallon).

Saw $3.05 and $3.15 today.

I filled up at a Chevron station yesterday for $3.19. 91 octane unleaded at the same station was $3.33 (although other Chevron stations that weren't selling diesel were selling 91 octane unleaded for $3.23). Two Valero stations were selling diesel for $3.29 (!).... One could argue that there is some convergence between diesel and premium unleaded pricing in San Mateo county.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

I am not close enough to smell Stinkadena, thank god but years back my wife had to work at one of the refineries out there and the air alone will damage car paint over time so just imagine what it does to people. I just never realized diesel was so close to the same price across the country, knew gasoline varied by such large margins though.

Live in Clear Lake and work in the Stinkadena chemical area. My bosses 92 Acura Legend had paint peeling and he swears it's from a cooling tower next door (our neighbor is known for terrible safety and environmental history).

Originally Posted by Marine5302

Saw $3.05 and $3.15 today.

I saw it as high as $3.25 here in Wilmington, but I also bought Shell (supposedly premium) for $2.96 yesterday. In general it has gone up $.15/gallon over the last week.

Still $2.89.9. Maybe 5 cents over regular.

Gas prices have recently dropped here in South Florida, peaking near $2.90 - $3.00/gal for regular. Premium and Super were over $3.00.

It is 2.75 here, about .20 more than regular unleaded. I have seen diesel as low as 2.399 but not at a place I'd trust nor even feel safe going too.

Around $2,75/US gallon ($0,73/litre), right in between midgrade and premium in most places.

$3.169 on the 21st.

It was $2.75 cash, $2.85 p/g at a Shell near me few days ago. I asked the attendant if it was clean diesel and he said "it is very clean" I didn't bother asking for cetane number.

Originally Posted by stoked335d

It was $2.75 cash, $2.85 p/g at a Shell near me few days ago. I asked the attendant if it was clean diesel and he said "it is very clean" I didn't bother asking for cetane number.

I've actually settled on only putting 76 gas in the car. Seems to be working for me so far.

Originally Posted by Snipe656

It is 2.75 here, about .20 more than regular unleaded. I have seen diesel as low as 2.399 but not at a place I'd trust nor even feel safe going too.

Mispoke, actually 30 cents more than 87 octane and 2 cents more than 93. That truckstop in the bad part of town does still have it fr 2.399 but no telling what you are really getting there.

Can you use 87 octane on E9X(gas only) series regularly? I thought use of premium fuel was suggested. Most high performance cars are using high octane so I think we should be comparing diesel vs premium prices.

I think they do but it is pretty surprising how many "performance" cars these days do not.

Originally Posted by stoked335d

Can you use 87 octane on E9X(gas only) series regularly? I thought use of premium fuel was suggested. Most high performance cars are using high octane so I think we should be comparing diesel vs premium prices.

You can on the 328i, but they recommend at least 89, else your engine will pay for it.

Originally Posted by Stugots

You can on the 328i, but they recommend at least 89, else your engine will pay for it.

87 is the minimum on the 328, 89 on the 335. The manual specifically says "There is no effect on engine life"

Originally Posted by EnterTheDragon

87 is the minimum on the 328, 89 on the 335. The manual specifically says "There is no effect on engine life"

Engine life, perhaps, but there's a distinct difference in performance. And, I wouldn't recommend putting in 87, anyway. Gonna call BS on them putting 87 in the manual, too...not very bright.

Why is it not bright? If the motor is designed to work with 87 then no need for people to spend more than they should. One of my old Mercedes the prior owner had been putting 89 octane in it for years because he thought that is what the cars called for and swore it ran better. I followed his lead for a long time until one day I was sitting in the car waiting on my wife and I read the entire owners manual. Plain as day in there it said 87 octane gas so I switched to that for the last couple of years I owned it and I never noticed any difference. So I am not saying the 328 says one way or the other since never read the manual or anything into it before. Now when I had one for a week I do remember the gas cap saying premium fuel only so I assumed it needed higher octane but suppose "premium" could mean quality as in brand/additives and octane.

Because using poorer quality gas is going to affect a higher performance engine regardless, and performance is diminished by a lower octane level, anyway.

I mean, if you want to put 87 octane in your precision German automobile and you're comfortable with that, more power to you (akin to putting Arco Diesel in your d, imo).

My 328 never saw a day less than 91 in its tank.

Running higher octane gas in a motor that is not designed to run on it can in the long run cause problems although in all my years I only know of one example of that damage actually happening. It is not about it being a "precision German automobile" it is about what is the engine designed to run on and running it on that. I know if you go to a Chevron that the only difference between their 87 and 93 octane fuels is the octane level itself, you still get all the same additives with either grade. So you still end up with a quality fuel and not really the same as going and buying Chevron diesel as to compare say Acme diesel. The Chevron is a better burning fuel and has additives in it but the non name brands typically do not which is why they are cheaper and why they lead to build up on the valves after years of usage.

But again I have no clue what the 328 is suppose to be ran on and the brief time I had one I just assumed it needed the higher octane fuel and was not going to go researching it since was not even my car.

$2.85.. Premium is $2.86, HA!