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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:33 PM
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My new 540i PROTECTION, check it out (pics)

Hey everyone, im Tom and i wanna share with everyone the joy of my new baby, which im hoping, will be a first here.
This is a factory armored 1998 540i which i bought from a friend who was the original owner.
Its the regular 4.4 282hp v8, fully loaded specs, with a twist...
glass are 21mm layered glass and polycarbonate and kevlar plates all around- doors, a, b and c pillars, firewall, trunk, roof and floor.
Besides that everything is pretty much everyday 5 series, weight is about 350 lbs more.
I tend to like and love to buy old cars which i think have more character and that is why i bought this, that and the fact that I live in Mexico City had already put me in the market for an armored car, sorry for the lowsy pics, ill add better ones soon, feel free to ask any questions you may have or request pics, hoping to share a lot in the forums..

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Old 10-28-2008, 06:39 PM
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Welcome aboard and Congrats on your new baby. Looks sharp!
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Old 10-28-2008, 06:53 PM
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Awsome! I have always thought the armored bimmers.
Do you know what calibers it can take?
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:10 PM
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Cool. Anything overt to distinguish it as an armored car?
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:12 PM
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thats so unique! look at the first pic the driver doesn't have window controls for the rear windows. Cool!
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:18 PM
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I wonder if the rear windows even go down. I'd bet they're permanently installed.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:37 PM
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Cool. Anything overt to distinguish it as an armored car?
The windows. See the extra black around the edges?
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:38 PM
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Are trying to protect yourself and your family from kidnappers? I hear kidnapping is so rampant in Mexico now. Hope you stay safe.
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Old 10-28-2008, 07:57 PM
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Hey everyone, im Tom and i wanna share with everyone the joy of my new baby, which im hoping, will be a first here.
This is a factory armored 1998 540i which i bought from a friend who was the original owner.
Its the regular 4.4 282hp v8, fully loaded specs, with a twist...
glass are 21mm layered glass and polycarbonate and kevlar plates all around- doors, a, b and c pillars, firewall, trunk, roof and floor.
Besides that everything is pretty much everyday 5 series, weight is about 350 lbs more.
I tend to like and love to buy old cars which i think have more character and that is why i bought this, that and the fact that I live in Mexico City had already put me in the market for an armored car, sorry for the lowsy pics, ill add better ones soon, feel free to ask any questions you may have or request pics, hoping to share a lot in the forums..

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I thought they only did that with 7s. An armored 540? Cool.
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Old 10-28-2008, 08:07 PM
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I thought they only did that with 7s. An armored 540? Cool.
You can get an armored X5 as well.
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Old 10-28-2008, 11:30 PM
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Armor level is B4 (euro spec) or the equivalent of Levlel III+ American, this can take up to .44 magnum, which is to say all hand guns and some machine guns. Sadly I am try to protect myself from kidnappings, since the Mexican government has been coming donw so har on drug lords they are more and more frequently tunring into kidnaping of well off Mexicans in order to make profits from the ransoms, but thats a very different, and very sad story, but will go well in the end.
Great spotting about the extra black edge around the windows, thats about the only indicator that the car is armored.
And here you can get the 335i, 550i, x54.8 and 750i in B4 armor levels , aslo you can get the 760i in b4 or b7 levels, b7 is called the "presidential armor" which gives you an idea of its capabilities, that will set you back 460K bucks, in perspective the 335i is about 93k and the original invoice for mi baby was 125k, so the extra protection does take its toll in your wallet.
But anywho, im very happy with mine, it does have a couple of minor isues i´ll be takin care of, but i love it, an extra note, road noise on highways must be about 5 or 6 decibels less, its VERY creepy, no sound AT ALL!!!
P.D. rear windows dont go down, as is customary on armored cars.
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:17 AM
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welcome to Bimmerfest and congrats on the 540
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Old 10-29-2008, 01:36 AM
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That's pretty sweet! On the used market did it cost alot more than regular 540's? An armored car like that would be pretty bad ass.
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:55 AM
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i wonder if you can import one of those to the US...
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:02 AM
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What is the button on the trim piece to the left of the steering wheel?
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:55 AM
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Cool. Anything overt to distinguish it as an armored car?
Aside from the smushed bullets on the floor that were unable to penetrate the driver window.... not much :P
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:54 AM
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I paid 19k for it, it has about 50k miles.
The button to the left of the steering wheel heats the windshield and front side windows around the side mirrors area so you can de-ice them when the defroster isnt enough, beacause of the thikness of the glass.
Im fairly confident you can import one into the States, might be a bit of a hectic process but in the end i believe its legal to do so. I wanna drive it to the States and see the look on my friends faces over there.
Other features I didn´t mention are the tires protection, which is like a ring around the rims made of some synthetic material whichs supports the weight of the car should your tires be shot, allowing you to drive away from the situation, and you guys noted, you can barely tell the car is armored, which is good because you dont wanna look like a target.
Theres also extra original documentation, a little card that tells you how to take care of the glass and a few pages long manual which tell you about the armor, tells you to be aware of the extra weight, about the de-icing function, the optional PA system (which mine doesn´t have, bummer) and some other stuff.
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Old 10-29-2008, 08:56 AM
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I wonder if the rear windows even go down. I'd bet they're permanently installed.
The driver's door shows no rear window switches.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:23 AM
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Welcome to the boards. Nice car man.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:43 AM
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The driver's door shows no rear window switches.
Cool car regardless!

Rear windows are almost always fixed, as are the passenger....often times the drivers door window will only go down a few inches, enough to slip an ID or papers through. The weight of the window makes it difficult to accomodate, and huge motors only make it heavier.

I took a security driving course in Virginia a few years ago with a contractor, they were owned by Armor Group http://www.armorgroup.com/ they had a couple vehicles for us to inspect and go over the various threat levels available and how a vehicle can be properly armored.

The BMW and Mercedes cars are nicely done from a cosmetic stand point, but the weak point is there is usually not enough overlap of armor plate at the A,B, and C pillars. Also, the threat level is probably too low to be of much help, since most BGs (bad guys) will simply use a rifle, which will punch right through. Also, they usually do not armor the battery compartment, which is very important, as a few hits there will short the battery and disable the car. Also you definitely want to install run flat tires.

The weakest point in almost all armored vehicles is the roof and floor, which are usually not armored. So IED's are either stuck to the roof (drive up on a scooter with a passenger to do the job) or slid under the car if parked or in line at a traffic light. Or an assault can take place from a roof, if an ambush is set up.

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Old 10-29-2008, 11:34 AM
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i wonder if you can import one of those to the US...
You can but only if you float it out to sea with the import from mexico package, The tires rotate out and become floatation devices along with 32 inflatable buoys located accordingly around the car.

Unfortunately package is and additional 500k out of pocket
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:54 AM
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Cool car regardless!

Rear windows are almost always fixed, as are the passenger....often times the drivers door window will only go down a few inches, enough to slip an ID or papers through. The weight of the window makes it difficult to accomodate, and huge motors only make it heavier.

I took a security driving course in Virginia a few years ago with a contractor, they were owned by Armor Group http://www.armorgroup.com/ they had a couple vehicles for us to inspect and go over the various threat levels available and how a vehicle can be properly armored.

The BMW and Mercedes cars are nicely done from a cosmetic stand point, but the weak point is there is usually not enough overlap of armor plate at the A,B, and C pillars. Also, the threat level is probably too low to be of much help, since most BGs (bad guys) will simply use a rifle, which will punch right through. Also, they usually do not armor the battery compartment, which is very important, as a few hits there will short the battery and disable the car. Also you definitely want to install run flat tires.

The weakest point in almost all armored vehicles is the roof and floor, which are usually not armored. So IED's are either stuck to the roof (drive up on a scooter with a passenger to do the job) or slid under the car if parked or in line at a traffic light. Or an assault can take place from a roof, if an ambush is set up.
Hmm. So what does 540 M-Sport do that involves such intricate knowledge of security tactics and supports the ownership of a Ferrari?
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Old 10-29-2008, 12:32 PM
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Obviously he consults BMW owners on how to keep their BMWs from being shredded by high impact projectiles/explosives

It's a lucrative business!

Most armored car floors are built to prevent penetration from shrapnel and medium caliber weapons...but not explosives. Similarly, the roofs. But these explosives we're discussing are usually sufficient to disable the car even from the passenger sides....it's not difficult to disable/kill the occupants with such an explosive (i.e. attached to underside/top of car)....the difficult thing is using such an explosive to disable the vehicle and garner entry to the occupants without killing them.

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Old 10-29-2008, 04:08 PM
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I wonder if I accidantally stumbled upon a secret group of security specialists :-)
Yes, explosives and assault rifles would be somewhat of an issue of this level of protection, but I di consult with a security specialist about the level I need, and this will do, assault rifles would requiere a level V, but that kind of attak is targeted against head of major coorporations, which I´m not, yet.
also explosives would require level VII, which would be apropiate for instance for a dictator, which i will most definetly get when I come to power... j/k
that said, the car does have a couple of minor issues which i´ll post on their respective threads, after searching, of course chief of which is that the a/c compressor is out, and i´m sure you can imagine that being a problem in an aromered car....
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Old 10-30-2008, 02:26 AM
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