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Old 11-20-2009, 06:18 PM
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Which is better Michelin Latitude HP or Proxes S/T II

Looks like I am going to buy 4 new all-season tires for my 4.8is.
315/35/20 rear
275/40/20 front
Which tire is better the Latitude or Proxes?
I will encounter some light snow and ice in winter.
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Old 11-21-2009, 06:21 AM
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Can't speak to snow and ice issue, but the Toyo Proxes are TERRIBLE in the rain. Worst tire I've ever had (in that respect). Dry handling was very respectable and it's reasonable quiet and comfortable. If I remember correctly, the Proxes were also very reasonable, price-wise. I've heard that Latitude is pretty good in the rain. Have you looked at Continental's offerings?
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:37 AM
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Thanks for the info.
I will check out Continental right now.
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:39 AM
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i would go with continental tires
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Old 11-21-2009, 11:14 AM
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I think you guys are right.
The Proxes look like they would be useless in anything but dry conditions.
The two best looking all=seasons appear to be the Conti 4x4 Sport Contact and the Michelin Lattitude Tour HP. Both look like they might have some grip on icy roads.
Remember I want to stay with the big 315/35/20 on the rear.
Any preferences between the Michelin and Conti?
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Old 11-21-2009, 02:17 PM
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I would not buy the Michelin Latitude again. It's a nice, smooth and quiet tire, but traction isn't all that great in the dry. One of the reason for the poor traction is the narrower than usual contact patch. A 285/45/19 tires theoretically should have a contact width of about 11" or so, but these Latitude only measured 9" wide (only a measly 1/2" wider or so than the measured 255/50 fronts)! Making the tires looked stretched on my 10" wide rims. I initially though the tire shop made a mistake and put 255/50/19s all around instead of the staggered setup. The narrow tires is probably why many are liking their wet and light snow traction, but summer traction simply sucks. One of the rear tire is developing some excessive wear on the center rib (all 4 tires measured at 32psi) after only about 10k miles and confirmed that it isn't an alignment issue. My previous Pirelli Scorpion Zero Assimmetrico performed much better, but the only down side was that I only got 20k miles out of them I may go back to the Pirelli or may even give the General Grabber a try, but definitely not the Latitudes again

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Old 11-21-2009, 04:24 PM
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Bridgestone and Michelin

Michelin Diamaris is available in those sizes. I think that's going to be my next set. Happy with my Continentals, but always looking to try new things.

Also Bridgestone has the Dueler H/P Sport RFT.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:33 PM
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Diamaris are summer-only tires. The OP was looking for all-seasons, which are somewhat limited in choices for staggered 19" and 20" sizes.
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Old 11-21-2009, 04:36 PM
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Can't speak to snow and ice issue, but the Toyo Proxes are TERRIBLE in the rain. Worst tire I've ever had (in that respect). Dry handling was very respectable and it's reasonable quiet and comfortable. If I remember correctly, the Proxes were also very reasonable, price-wise. I've heard that Latitude is pretty good in the rain. Have you looked at Continental's offerings?
Are you referring to the Proxes S/T I or II?
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:16 PM
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I was looking at the Proxes S/T II
Thanks for all the input.
Keep it coming!
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:33 PM
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Oops....

Yeah, forget about the Diamaris. I wouldn't consider the Proxes "all season" after driving on them.
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Diamaris are summer-only tires. The OP was looking for all-seasons, which are somewhat limited in choices for staggered 19" and 20" sizes.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:35 PM
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Never had the original Proxes, I had the S/T II

Maybe the originals are better in the wet stuff?
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:43 PM
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WOW - if you got 20k on your Pirellis, I might go with them...

Did they get loud towards the end? Any other downside?

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I would not buy the Michelin Latitude again. It's a nice, smooth and quiet tire, but traction isn't all that great in the dry. One of the reason for the poor traction is the narrower than usual contact patch. A 285/45/19 tires theoretically should have a contact width of about 11" or so, but these Latitude only measured 9" wide (only a measly 1/2" wider or so than the measured 255/50 fronts)! Making the tires looked stretched on my 10" wide rims. I initially though the tire shop made a mistake and put 255/50/19s all around instead of the staggered setup. The narrow tires is probably why many are liking their wet and light snow traction, but summer traction simply sucks. One of the rear tire is developing some excessive wear on the center rib (all 4 tires measured at 32psi) after only about 10k miles and confirmed that it isn't an alignment issue. My previous Pirelli Scorpion Zero Assimmetrico performed much better, but the only down side was that I only got 20k miles out of them I may go back to the Pirelli or may even give the General Grabber a try, but definitely not the Latitudes again
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Old 11-21-2009, 08:49 PM
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I have an 05 4.8 and I am considering the Bridgestone Dueller tires. Has anyone tried them?
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:50 PM
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Did they get loud towards the end? Any other downside?
Which are you referring to? The Pirelli or the Michelin Latitude? The Pirelli got a tad bit louder towards the end, but nothing out of the ordinary. I would definitely recommend them if only they'll last longer than the 20k miles that I got out of them. The Michelin...I'm only 10K into them...still same quietness as when new. But with the excessive center wear on one of them, not sure how much longer they'll last; I'm hoping at least 10k more, which is a bit disappointing considering how everyone is raving on the longevity of Michelins.

If I'm going to stay with all-seasons, I'm considering the General Grabbers or Khumho Ecsta STX...anyone have any experience with either? If no good recommendations, I may just stick with Pirelli.
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Old 11-21-2009, 09:53 PM
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I have an 05 4.8 and I am considering the Bridgestone Dueller tires. Has anyone tried them?
No personal experience with it, but heard lots of good things about them. Definitely a good alternative to the Diamaris.
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Old 11-21-2009, 10:03 PM
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Hey I was just on the Continentaltire.com website and they list the Extreme Contact DWS tire in 315/35/20 but I can not find it for sale anywhere.
They list it as Article # 15479850000
Does anyone know if they do indeed make the DWS in 315/35/20?
Do you where I can buy it?
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Old 11-22-2009, 05:42 AM
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DKL - Thanks you answered it (look at my subject line, I was interested in your experience with the Pirellis).
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i have the Toyo ST2s and i like them very much. i have 8500 miles on them and they are excellent in the rain including heavy rain with standing water.

HOWEVER i am running 19s. and they are the XL (extra load) version.
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I was running the Proxes S/T II on a 2007 Q7 with 20" (275/45 R20, I believe). During any kind of rain, with or without standing water, the Q7 would easily lose traction in the front and then the rear. I could never get the rear to break out with Contis and the fronts would break only if I was pushing it too hard. Although it was fun initially, it reduced my confidence in the vehicle - something a tire shouldn't do. I put close to 10k miles on them and was impressed with the lack of wear.

Like I said, they were great on dry roads, gripped well, quiet and pretty inexpensive. I'm not saying don't get them, but see what the policy is where you buy them (30 day money back?).

I have never run the Proxes S/T II on a X5. Just offering my opinion.
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Old 11-22-2009, 10:26 AM
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i have the Toyo ST2s and i like them very much. i have 8500 miles on them and they are excellent in the rain including heavy rain with standing water.

HOWEVER i am running 19s. and they are the XL (extra load) version.
Are you running the staggered setup? The ST2 doesn't appear to have a fitment for the rear 285/45-19.

Edit: Nevermind...I see that you have an E70, which means that you're NOT running the staggered setup.

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I have an E70 w/19" stock rims and mine are staggered.

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Are you running the staggered setup? The ST2 doesn't appear to have a fitment for the rear 285/45-19.

Edit: Nevermind...I see that you have an E70, which means that you're NOT running the staggered setup.
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I have an E70 w/19" stock rims and mine are staggered.
Really? That's odd. Thought E70 sports only come in staggered setup on 20" and 21"? Non-sports come with either 255/55-18 or 255/50-19 all around? What sizes did yours came with?
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Maybe because of the M-Sport package on mine? Not sure. 285/45 and 255/50.
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Now you got me curious...got pictures of the rim type?

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