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E60 (2004 - 2010)
BMW 5-Series (E60 chassis) was first seen in the Unites States in the fall of 2003 with a 2004 Model Year designation. The E60 is now available as a 528i, 528xi, 535i, 535xi, 550i and a 535xi sports wagon! -- View the E60 Wiki

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Old 12-01-2009, 07:47 PM
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Question Help with out of Warranty Battery Replacement, Please

My 2006 530 xi is 4.5 years old, 66,000 miles. With cold weather, it's cranking slower and slower and tonight I had to jump it. Today I called local BMW: $300+ and got the "registration" story. Parts houses will sell a 6 year battery for $99 with me having to install. Without the "advanced" electronics story/registration I wouldn't hesitate, but wanted to throw this out to the board.

What is the conventional wisdom on this board, considering money is tight all over right now?

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Old 12-01-2009, 08:21 PM
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Read this thread

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Thanks, Jugu, this makes the install very clear, hats off to the person that put those pictures up.

My only concern is talk (BMW Service Sales and on this Forum) that the computer "knows" after "registration" that it's a new battery and then starts sending it only the voltage and current it needs to stay properly charged: not too much and not too little. Supposedly only BMW can "register" the battery to the car computer and therefore get this right. Plausible, but not certain it's important. It'll cost me about $200 to buy into this theory (or sales pitch).

Anyone care to venture an opinion?
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Sorry, Jagu, I got your name spelled wrong! My bad.
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:18 PM
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I believe that's it's being said that if you replace it with a battery of the same voltage, amps, etc, you wont have to register it. It's on this board somewhere.
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:44 PM
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What I ended up doing

I took it to my dealer and a great tech replaced it in under and hour. It cost me $400. I had heard too many stories of the car's computer sending the wrong juice to an unregistered new battery. Ruining that battery in the meantime and leading back to BMW. Is all the fancy computer stuff partly there to lead us back to BMW for service? Probably, but I don't see an easy road around it. Onward. Still a great car.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:18 AM
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Like UtahBldrBob, I, too, took my car back to the dealer when I needed a new battery. With the investment in the car what it is, I was not going to quibble about a couple of hundred if it meant potentially more/other problems down stream.
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Old 12-03-2009, 12:38 PM
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See if an independent shop with AutoLogic can do the battery registration for you. It'll probably be about $100 for the programming, so you'll still be ahead by buying the lower cost battery. BatteriesPlus sells the "Werker" brand which is supposed to be identical to the OEM BMW battery.

http://www.batteriesplus.com/t-werker-batteries.aspx
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Old 12-03-2009, 11:27 PM
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Battery sizes

Becarefull. There are two sizes that are used on the 5 series. Found this out went I went looking for a replacement. If you buy an aftermarket battery get the size/part number off the original battery.

Don't know about the registration setting, but I do know that Pep Boys sells a replacement as does Walmart.
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Old 12-04-2009, 05:38 AM
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Y register the battery? Whats the point in that?
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Y register the battery? Whats the point in that?
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n32129310/
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Old 12-05-2009, 07:27 AM
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After reading that article I still find it hard to believe that its a must. Many have done it with no issues what so ever. I don't care what kind of charging system or how many modules are monitering it at the end of the day it must keep the battery at a certain level and adjust charging accordingly depending upon demand. Sure BMW may have a much more complicated way to go about this, but the principle has to remain the same. If it didn't you'd have issues like crazy.
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Old 12-06-2009, 09:40 PM
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A battery is a battery.....dosen't matter if it's BMW's or Wal-marts! There's NO sensor in the battery transmitting it's identity and requirements to the onboard PCM! The BMW has an alternator just like any other car and works off the engine via a belt and the voltage it puts out is controlled by a regulator in/on the alternator. BMW is FOS and nobody should spend $400 for a battery......contact the AG of your state because you were robbed!
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:21 AM
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A battery is a battery.....dosen't matter if it's BMW's or Wal-marts! There's NO sensor in the battery transmitting it's identity and requirements to the onboard PCM! The BMW has an alternator just like any other car and works off the engine via a belt and the voltage it puts out is controlled by a regulator in/on the alternator. BMW is FOS and nobody should spend $400 for a battery......contact the AG of your state because you were robbed!
Good luck with your Walmart battery George. Apparently you haven't been following this thread very close.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n32129310/
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:39 AM
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I bought my replacement battery at Autozone. The installation went smoothly... took about 20 minutes. I had to reset the Active Steering and plug in the date and time and I was off and running with a few hundred extra dollars in my pocket.

Btw... why doesn't the date / time set from the satellite?
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:34 AM
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No probs with self reset the Active Steering ?
No issues, The whole process was easier than I expected based on the almost $600 quote from my dealer.
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Old 12-15-2009, 10:59 AM
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Did you use the same process that was in pdf in this thread?
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:21 AM
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I did refer to that thread before I started. As for the Active Steering reset, I just used the instructions in the manual. Are you having problems with your active steering reset or are you just considering doing the battery swap?
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Old 12-15-2009, 11:32 AM
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Just getting ready for a battery swap... Tks for the info. Any and all pointers are appreciated.
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Old 12-15-2009, 12:36 PM
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Old 12-15-2009, 09:13 PM
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Good luck with your Walmart battery George. Apparently you haven't been following this thread very close.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/m.../ai_n32129310/
Apparently you buy into the stealers hype with blind ignorant bliss! This ain't my first ride COWBOY! You want to spend $400 for a battery then go for it.....me I'll buy the $50 battery from Wal-Mart

"You don't ab- solutely have to register every new battery you install in these late-model BMWs. Ignoring the registration process after replacing a battery won't trigger a DTC or turn on the MIL"

THEY SUGGEST YOU DO TO PROLONG BATTERY LIFE! I don't give a rats ass about a $50 battery lasting me five years instead of two! Hell I can by a battery every year for 8 years and spend the $400 dealers want.

SO I ASK.....who's the dummy??????
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Old 12-16-2009, 05:22 AM
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lol... Thats rich. How about we meet in the middle and buya mid grade battery and do the reset ourselves and get 3-5 years from the battry and be happy we are driving such fine rides ok...
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Old 12-21-2009, 11:03 PM
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Sounds to me like a good plan! $400 is ridiculous and anybody subscribing to this type of theft is either extremely rich or extremely STUPID!
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Old 12-22-2009, 02:16 PM
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Sounds to me like a good plan! $400 is ridiculous and anybody subscribing to this type of theft is either extremely rich or extremely STUPID!
Makes you wonder how many customers a month the typical dealership gets in that goes bonkers when they tell them the battery will cost about $500 or whatever.

I know I'd flip out. One thing to make a buck but another thing to rob you blind. I've been told the battery registration part takes a tech about 5 mins. tops to do. I don't see why the dealers can't do it for about $225. They still make a good $75 to $100 off you.
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