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Old 12-03-2009, 04:04 PM
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Sport seats with or without premium package with lumbar support?

Hey guys im gonna be placing an order for a 328i with sport package or M package (haven't decided if M is worth the extra money). I'm thinking of not getting premium package to save some money. The only thing I like in premium is the power seats with the lumbar support because I will be taking long trips in this car. On the other hand the sport seats are comfy enough in my opinion and I can manually adjust them because I don't think they will come powered without the premium package. Let me know your thought on his matter.. Thanks
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:47 PM
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Get the premium package. The lumbar support is worth it. I'm just coming out of a car with sport seats and no lumbar and I really missed it, having had it in my first Bimmer. You can order powered seats as a stand alone option if you don't get premium. Premium also gets you Bluetooth which you will really like and need if you will be taking long trips in the car. It really does make things much safer. It also gets you the Homelink garage door opener. If you get leather, power seats and Bluetooth all as stand alone options it's only about $400 less than if you get the premium package and get the extra features.

Get the M Sport. It IS worth the extra money. After you experience it you will understand. Don't get Beige or Gray seats or the door trim and lower trim will not match the black trim the comes with the M Sport.

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Old 12-03-2009, 04:54 PM
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If I get power seats as a separate option added with the sport seats will it have lumbar support added with the power or just power to the sport seats? Is it worth just powering the sport seats w the power option or should u pay for premium to get the lumbar support?
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:59 PM
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If I get power seats as a separate option added with the sport seats will it have lumbar support added with the power or just power to the sport seats? Is it worth just powering the sport seats w the power option or should u pay for premium to get the lumbar support?
Lumbar only comes with the Premium package. For me that makes premium a must. But I also like all the other things that come with premium. Leather is a must from me over leatherette and Bluetooth is a must for me. I also really like having Homelink.

Lumbar support really adds to the goodness of the sport seats.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:15 PM
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Unfortunately, to get the absolute best overall driver's seat BMW makes, one must order the combination of premium and sport packages.

I ordered both packages for the first time and because of this my current driver's seat is the absolute best of my 4 BMWs I have owned.

I have to add, the Bluetooth from the premium package is indispensable for both convenience and safety.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:16 PM
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The lumbar is nice, but if you really don't want it then don't. I personally like all the stuff that comes in the premium package. But hey, that debate has and will been here many times on the forum. Just be sure you won't regret it later.

In regards to the M sport. ttureraider said it. It's fantastic. I have absolutely ZERO regrets about spending the extra money to get it.
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Old 12-03-2009, 05:31 PM
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just do it and dont look back. In resale it will add a lot of value to your car. Who has heard of ahigh end sports car that has vinyl seats, and have no power. Prem. Package has a lot of really nice features. Even if you think you wont use them, you probably will. Get it, and enjoy the car
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I think premium package is way overpriced for what you get. Just add the power seats and use that money saved for the M package.
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Old 12-03-2009, 06:59 PM
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People seem to have forgotten that the 328i sedan comes with Leather as part of the value package. Of course, if you're talking about the coupe, then never mind.
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Old 12-03-2009, 07:03 PM
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No one has mentioned this so I'll bring it up just to help you with your decision.

Ordering the power seats separately also gets you heated seats.
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No one has mentioned this so I'll bring it up just to help you with your decision.

Ordering the power seats separately also gets you heated seats.
Nope. You got those because you have xDrive with the Value package.
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I think premium package is way overpriced for what you get. Just add the power seats and use that money saved for the M package.
The ZPP is $2,650. The three big things you get are power seats, Bluetooth and four years of BMW Assist, and the moonroof. Individually those options total $2,795. So with getting the ZPP you save $145, plus you get power lumbar support, Homelink garage door opener, a compass and auto dimming rear and side view mirrors and power folding side mirrors.

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People seem to have forgotten that the 328i sedan comes with Leather as part of the value package. Of course, if you're talking about the coupe, then never mind.
The price of the premium package has been adjusted accordingly.
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I took my '07 328 wagon on a 600 mi. trip over Thanksgiving. Loaded with everything 'cept NAV. The trip up to Ohio wasn't so bad. The 9 hr. trip back was grueling. Lumbar or no lumbar, heated seats or not, with any & every seat position, I was miserable. Of course, no break except for gas once as I had to make it back for work didn't help. I put the car up for sale locally when I got home. I read you guys talking about the sport seats & how great they are & I get a little envious. To be fair to the car, I'm 57 & maybe more prone to be miserable having to sit for such a long time. But I didn't expect to feel as beat up as I did for the next few days. Maybe I'm at the age I need a '78 coupe de ville?
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The price of the premium package has been adjusted accordingly.

My post was referring to people mentioning the leatherette seats.
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My post was referring to people mentioning the leatherette seats.
Yeah, I just wanted to make sure they knew the ZPP price had been adjusted.
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Thank you all for your suggestions.. I have decided to shell out the extra bucks for the premium even though i was against it just cause of the lumbar..I think while taking long trip switching seat positions will put an ease to your back. Bluetooth, compass, and dimming mirrors are a bonus. I just think the premium is so overpriced when most of these options come standard in other cars..I guess bmw cant resist ripping us off on the packages when we r paying for the body/engine anyways..Thanks for all the info..appreciate it m8's
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You will be happier with the premium package. Don't ever look at Porsches.

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Thank you all for your suggestions.. I have decided to shell out the extra bucks for the premium even though i was against it just cause of the lumbar..I think while taking long trip switching seat positions will put an ease to your back. Bluetooth, compass, and dimming mirrors are a bonus. I just think the premium is so overpriced when most of these options come standard in other cars..I guess bmw cant resist ripping us off on the packages when we r paying for the body/engine anyways..Thanks for all the info..appreciate it m8's
Good decision! I really didn't want a sunroof but chose Premium anyway due mostly to Lumbar and the auto-dimming mirrors. After several hours on the A-bahn I was very happy with the choice. They are as good or better than my old Volvo seats and exponentially better than my Honda seats, which may be the all time worst seats in the auto industry.
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I took my '07 328 wagon on a 600 mi. trip over Thanksgiving. Loaded with everything 'cept NAV. The trip up to Ohio wasn't so bad. The 9 hr. trip back was grueling. Lumbar or no lumbar, heated seats or not, with any & every seat position, I was miserable. Of course, no break except for gas once as I had to make it back for work didn't help. I put the car up for sale locally when I got home. I read you guys talking about the sport seats & how great they are & I get a little envious. To be fair to the car, I'm 57 & maybe more prone to be miserable having to sit for such a long time. But I didn't expect to feel as beat up as I did for the next few days. Maybe I'm at the age I need a '78 coupe de ville?
Seating is a very personal thing. What fits one body, will not fit another. I have the non-sport ZPP seats and am pretty happy with them. My neighbor has non-sport non-premium and is thrilled with seats. Another neighbor has a ZSP and swears they are the best thing since sliced bread. And, all three versions of the seats have been the subject of "why are these seats so uncomfortable?" threads on various chat boards.
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Thank you all for your suggestions.. I have decided to shell out the extra bucks for the premium even though i was against it just cause of the lumbar..I think while taking long trip switching seat positions will put an ease to your back. Bluetooth, compass, and dimming mirrors are a bonus. I just think the premium is so overpriced when most of these options come standard in other cars..I guess bmw cant resist ripping us off on the packages when we r paying for the body/engine anyways..Thanks for all the info..appreciate it m8's
That's great, but more importantly, you did get the ///M-Sport package too, correct?

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Thank you all for your suggestions.. I have decided to shell out the extra bucks for the premium even though i was against it just cause of the lumbar..I think while taking long trip switching seat positions will put an ease to your back. Bluetooth, compass, and dimming mirrors are a bonus. I just think the premium is so overpriced when most of these options come standard in other cars..I guess bmw cant resist ripping us off on the packages when we r paying for the body/engine anyways..Thanks for all the info..appreciate it m8's
This is true. BMW's customers are really paying for the engineering. Other brands have to add extra features to draw in buyers.

M Sport?
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Bolt..I know u r curious if i got the M Package or not..Well heres the car I am planning to order..Let me know if I should change or add anything

328i sedan M package w Le Mans Blue exterior...black leather interior..Premium pckg...comfort access..value package w ipod usb...xenon headlights (which I think is a must)..paddle shifters
Im working on a tight budget and really had to squeeze the comfort access in there cause from reviews I heard its a must have..so what yall think?
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Bolt..I know u r curious if i got the M Package or not..Well heres the car I am planning to order..Let me know if I should change or add anything

328i sedan M package w Le Mans Blue exterior...black leather interior..Premium pckg...comfort access..value package w ipod usb...xenon headlights (which I think is a must)..paddle shifters
Im working on a tight budget and really had to squeeze the comfort access in there cause from reviews I heard its a must have..so what yall think?
Nothing wrong with black, but check out the Saddle Brown leather. It's beautiful when combined with LeMans Blue. There was one in the show room when I picked mine up and I came close to switching.
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Bolt..I know u r curious if i got the M Package or not..Well heres the car I am planning to order..Let me know if I should change or add anything

328i sedan M package w Le Mans Blue exterior...black leather interior..Premium pckg...comfort access....value package w ipod usb...xenon headlights (which I think is a must)..paddle shifters
Im working on a tight budget and really had to squeeze the comfort access in there cause from reviews I heard its a must have..so what yall think?
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I'm a little late to this party, but boy are you lucky I showed up. These guys are all nuts! None of them know what their talking about!

These are the must haves:

Value, of course - no matter what anyone tells you there is a difference between leather and leatherette/vinyl and leather wins.

Premium - unless you just really can't stand the thought of having a moonroof.

You get auto-dimming mirrors, folding mirrors, compass, garage door opener and lumbar support (absolute MUST HAVE) for about $450 more than if you bought only the biggies ala carte - power seats with memory (including mirrors) and bluetooth (must have).

///M Sport - Forget about the sport package! Even if you don't care about the exterior trim, the interior goodies make this package an absolute MUST HAVE! Once you've had the anthracite headliner for a while you will understand. (Do Not get a beige or grey interior, so that you will have all black trim. I recommend the Glacier Silver trim; it's unique to the package and it has character) And of course there's also the ///M Sport steering wheel. On the outside you also get rear park distance control, which is a $375 retail value.

Xenon headlights - no if's, and's or but's about it!!

Comfort Access


Nice to haves - folding rear seats (highly recommended), heated seats, Logic7 sound, upgrade to 18" wheels, alarm, smart phone integration.

This is THE DEFINITIVE list. Bimmerfest should make this post a sticky!

You're welcome.

MSRP with must haves (includes steptronic and metallic paint) - $43,450. Not bad, imo. Adding nice to haves - $46,450. Still not bad. The 2010 ZVP really makes this the year to buy a 328 (that's not a coupe or 'vert )
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