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Old 12-09-2009, 04:14 PM
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Headroom and sunroof

So, I always thought that sunroof/moonroofs were big headroom thieves. Today, I have a loaner without sunroof. I'm amazed to find that headroom is no better than it is in my E91 with sunroof. I guess BMW has found a way to design a sunroof that is really thin and does't rob headroom that much.
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:26 PM
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They did rob space in the past, but like you said, maybe just better engineering and design?
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:13 PM
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Old 12-09-2009, 06:15 PM
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I can tell the difference in headroom between the M3 E92 carbon fiber roof and the M3 E93 steel roof with sunroof. And there is more headroom with my E93 than the standard E92. Granted, those are different types of roof composites and designs, but after 2500 miles in an E92 loaner, I found out I could never buy a 3-series with a sunroof.
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My 6'4 brother got in the car and had no headroom at all. Then I told him he could lower the seat from the position my 5'4 daughter prefers. After that, he was just fine.
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In the newer BMWs, seat angle, bottom cushion angle, and positioning are crucial to getting sufficient headroom.

Me and a friend test drove a 335i coupé right when it came out. It was awful for all 6' 2" of him; he was staring down at the inside rearview mirror and he had no space at all. He loved the car but hated the lack of headroom.

Last year, I let him drive our 325i sport and with the seat in my position except scooted further back. He remarked at how he still had a couple inches of headroom and was pleased with that.
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Im 6'1 and fit in the 335i just fine... maybe he should try to better adjust the seat?
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:40 AM
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In the newer BMWs, seat angle, bottom cushion angle, and positioning are crucial to getting sufficient headroom.

Me and a friend test drove a 335i coupé right when it came out. It was awful for all 6' 2" of him; he was staring down at the inside rearview mirror and he had no space at all. He loved the car but hated the lack of headroom.

Last year, I let him drive our 325i sport and with the seat in my position except scooted further back. He remarked at how he still had a couple inches of headroom and was pleased with that.
I'm 6'2 and have a 07 335i with sunroof and i fit just fine with plenty of room... There are like 40 adjustments on the seat... (Not sure if that comes special with sport or premium but i have both). But you can not only angle seat forward to back, you can go up and down, angle up the fornt and angle down the back(prob best for most head room), its like the elevator in charlie and the chocolate factory Wonkavator!
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Moonroofs do take some headroom, but the seats are designed to be low enough so most people should be fine. I do not have my seats as low as possible and I have a little more then 5 inches between my head and the ceiling of the car. I am 6'3"
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Im 6'1 and fit in the 335i just fine... maybe he should try to better adjust the seat?
Yep...I'm 6'3" and have room to spare. That's part of the reason I chose a 335 over a C350 or G37 coupe.
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The odd thing is that, on paper, the G37 has slightly more headroom than the E9x (if I recall properly). But, my head always crashes to the ceiling in one of those.
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I think lately, in a bid to make more aerodynamic and safer designs with thicker A-pillars and lower rooflines, headroom is becoming more meagre in many cars. The worst in class is without a doubt, the Lexus IS.
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Yep...I'm 6'3" and have room to spare. That's part of the reason I chose a 335 over a C350 or G37 coupe.
Ya, suprising amount of headroom if you ask me. Ever try the IS350? I'm only 6'0, but I had to move the seat back pretty far to avoid hitting my head. With the seat moved back so i was reasonably comfortable, there was zero room in the rear seat. Great seats though....extremely comfortable.
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I think lately, in a bid to make more aerodynamic and safer designs with thicker A-pillars and lower rooflines, headroom is becoming more meagre in many cars. The worst in class is without a doubt, the Lexus IS.
Totally agree. In fact, headroom is an issue in the GS sedans as well.
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