I want to love the Audi S4 but . . . .

I really want to love the S4, whenever I drive my fathers CLK500 I realize how incredible an 8 cylinder is and it makes me want one in my next car.

The S4 looks like the perfect package with it's 8 cylinder 340 hp (I think that's what it is), it's beautiful looks, incredible interior,etc. BUT when I read over on Audiworld about the S4, it seems the owners all say this car doesn't feel fast

Has anyone driven one


What do you think about this hot car . . .

what are they comparing it to. It's got to feel fast It is fast


I personally think, it is awesome. I saw one up close on a dealer lot in gray, it was so sweet.

I'm guessing that its heavy weight, coupled w/ a N/A engine that builds power more linearly (rather than Turbo as many of the Audi guys are used to) may explain this.

Originally Posted by robg

I'm guessing that its heavy weight, coupled w/ a N/A engine that builds power more linearly (rather than Turbo as many of the Audi guys are used to) may explain this.

This makes sense . . . We N/A guys might love it . . .. I hope . . .

For under $50k where else are you going to get a 8 cyl. 4 door with a stick

Originally Posted by AF330i

This makes sense . . . We N/A guys might love it . . .. I hope . . .

For under $50k where else are you going to get a 8 cyl. 4 door with a stick

that's as nice as that car? nowhere

It's an awesome package. Too bad it is so darned heavy, but it is awesome. It also makes me happy that it is naturally aspirated, since I always worry about the reliability of performance turbo engines.

It would be nice to drive one one day...

I have always been afraid to test drive so many nice cars just because I didn't know how to drive stick. But now that I do, one of these weekends I am going to go on a test drive frenzy.

the v8 was said to be more compact than a twin turbo v6 i think. not sure about weight. that said, there were some that said that handling characteristics of the i4 e36 (318i) was better than the i6 (325/328) because it was lighter.

The M3 is faster, and lots of folks say it doesn't feel fast either

Originally Posted by AF330i

For under $50k where else are you going to get a 8 cyl. 4 door with a stick

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...jsp?model=ctsv

Originally Posted by AF330i

For under $50k where else are you going to get a 8 cyl. 4 door with a stick

I think the new Caddy CTS-V will be under 50K.

Edit: Nate got there first

Originally Posted by nate328Ci

http://www.cadillac.com/cadillacjsp/...jsp?model=ctsv

he should have added good looking to his sentence

Originally Posted by tgravo2

he should have added good looking to his sentence

Yea, the Audi is probably better looking. Though, it does look a bit boat like, and I can't tell the A4 and A6 apart...

The Cadillac is growing on me, plus, it is RWD, has 60 more hp (at the same weight) and is much more tunable.

Originally Posted by nate328Ci

Yea, the Audi is probably better looking. Though, it does look a bit boat like, and I can't tell the A4 and A6 apart...

The Cadillac is growing on me, plus, it is RWD, has 60 more hp (at the same weight) and is much more tunable.

yea I do like the Caddy's specs a lot better. Looks are a big factor to me though

I almost hate to say it but I don't like American cars . . . I've had my Corvette days which is one of the only other couple of cars I've owned that have the addiction factor like the BMW's have plus I will always have that special love for a Corvette but that's about it . . .

Caddy's aren't for me . . .

It's too heavy, the excess weight is a big disadvantage when it comes to acceleration. Even my car with 35 hp less is faster than the S4.

But today's cars are all suffering from the same problem. They are too isolated compared to its predecessors. Drive a 911 from the late 80s and drive a new one, or the E30 vs E46 etc. , then you'll know what I mean.

Originally Posted by AF330i

I almost hate to say it but I don't like American cars . . . I've had my Corvette days which is one of the only other couple of cars I've owned that have the addiction factor like the BMW's have plus I will always have that special love for a Corvette but that's about it . . .

Caddy's aren't for me . . .

Yeah, but even I can learn to like a Caddy grafted on to a Z06.

Originally Posted by Alex Baumann

But today's cars are all suffering from the same problem. They are too isolated compared to its predecessors. Drive a 911 from the late 80s and drive a new one, or the E30 vs E46 etc. , then you'll know what I mean.

Amen.

V-8's are nice but the in-line 6 is just as smooth albeit with less punch. Don't see myself driving an Audi though. A little too antiseptic for my taste.

Originally Posted by ObD

V-8's are nice but the in-line 6 is just as smooth albeit with less punch. Don't see myself driving an Audi though. A little too antiseptic for my taste.

an inline 6 is supposed to be smoothest of configurations, next is a v12. this is because the harmonics of an inline 6 are said to be perfect.

Audi's are garbage in my opinion. Owned one, it owned my pocket book in repairs, undriveable by 65,000 miles. A co-worker just returned his (leased) 2001 A4 via the lemon law and bought a Lexus.

Originally Posted by AF330i

I really want to love the S4, whenever I drive my fathers CLK500 I realize how incredible an 8 cylinder is and it makes me want one in my next car.

The S4 looks like the perfect package with it's 8 cylinder 340 hp (I think that's what it is), it's beautiful looks, incredible interior,etc. BUT when I read over on Audiworld about the S4, it seems the owners all say this car doesn't feel fast

Has anyone driven one


What do you think about this hot car . . .

A lot of those S4 guys on Audiworld are upgrading from the previous gen S4 with the turbos, many of them chipped too. So like people mentioned, the linear pull of the NA engine is a lot different then a turbo car and it fools the butt dyno. S4 is heavy and isolated so that also contributes to it

Check out this pic, I had to make a double take to make sure it was a S4, sure looks like a A6 to me

http://forums.audiworld.com/s4b6/msgs/29522.phtml

Originally Posted by Alex Baumann

It's too heavy, the excess weight is a big disadvantage when it comes to acceleration. Even my car with 35 hp less is faster than the S4.

But today's cars are all suffering from the same problem. They are too isolated compared to its predecessors. Drive a 911 from the late 80s and drive a new one, or the E30 vs E46 etc. , then you'll know what I mean.

all?

Originally Posted by atyclb

all?

did you start your yoga yet?

Lotus position Have you been in one yet? There's a nice blue Euro-spec Elise here in Columbus

Things are looking up for this car . . . some of the posters are now reporting this thing feels fast !!!

I guess they are finally breaking in their cars . . . I couldn't imagine how a car with this much power not being fast . . .

Now if Audi can redesign that intruding center console and give the driver some knee room