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Old 08-26-2012, 07:49 PM
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Might just be a worn bottom end... Doesn't seem drastic enough to be a blown HG to me.


Leakdown test would probably help to tell.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:51 PM
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:57 PM
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Yeah, not drastic....but it's nearly 25% off from peak, and engine was cold. Disappointing given that I have a miss on cyls 2 & 3.

I guess I'll change the crank sensor and intake gaskets and boot and put it back together and see what I come up with. Still need to do the H2O pump and t-stat too. I think if it is a BHG I'm going to bypass the heater core, pull the tstat, and run some Blue Devil and try my luck with that. I have no desire or time to change the HG right now.
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Old 08-26-2012, 07:58 PM
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Dude. Your writing looks like that of a 4 year old on bath salts.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:07 PM
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Dude. Your writing looks like that of a 4 year old on bath salts.
that good, eh??



anyway...somewhere along the way home my exhaust broke off. apparently when one welds only 1 support on the muffler, combined with a (previously unknown) broken trans mount and a few rough back roads, things can get a bit, uh...broken....

so somewhere in cow country there is a muffler along the side of a road...


so now i need to fix the mounts and re-do the exhaust. this time, though, i will get some bends in the pipe to hang the muffler a little bit higher. it looked too low and ricer for me.


and i'll use more than 1 support....honest....





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Old 08-26-2012, 08:09 PM
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:10 PM
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df.... You didn't hear it come off?? Or the sounds of an open header engine afterwards?? Were you blasting your Justin Bieber too loudly?
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:19 PM
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it did get a little bit louder, but after about 45 mins @ 3000rpm things sorta get a little mixed.

i heard a slight 'ting.....ting......tingating....' for a few minutes once i got over the delaware memorial bridge, then it went away....


i think it was around cowtown, actually. that's where i noticed the raspyness of the exhaust note, but didn't get out unti li got past the circle on rt 40. wasn't going to go back for it when i saw it fell off. it didn't look like it took out anything on the undercarriage, and i was going to rehang it anyway (since i didn't like how low the muffler was), so it's simply back to the drawing board.

i haz passed inspection, so no worriez right now...



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Old 08-26-2012, 08:23 PM
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I think you need to get your hearing checked... My car is so loud without a muffler. No way you could miss it.
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:31 PM
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i did hear it, i just thought it had cracked maybe. at [redacted] mph the exhaust note was pretty hearty. after almost an hour at that speed (slowing for toll booths, of course...) the drone just sorta became backround noise.


that, and the radio was blasting bieber on '11'....





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Old 08-26-2012, 08:36 PM
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:44 PM
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Old 08-26-2012, 08:52 PM
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Old 08-26-2012, 09:57 PM
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Old 08-26-2012, 11:03 PM
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even if my exhaust dropped it wouldnt have enough clearance to leave the bottom of the car

I need to heat wrap the pipe and put some insulation down there though. my car was like 120 degrees the whole way. floors were hot as hell

thats what you get when you remove the exhaust insulation i guess right?
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Dude. Your writing looks like that of a 4 year old on bath salts.


Shuddup douche. I was writing on a paper towel with a friggin sharpie taped to a vertical surface only on the top. Be glad it's even remotely legible.



My normal handwriting on a flat surface with pen and paper looks like a 6 year olds, thankyouverymuch.
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:42 AM
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oooh yeah, i left my fair share of squiggly marks on the pavement this weekend poor tool booth attendants probably have hearing loss...
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Old 08-27-2012, 06:49 AM
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Old 08-27-2012, 08:36 AM
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oooh yeah, i left my fair share of squiggly marks on the pavement this weekend poor tool booth attendants probably have hearing loss...
when I left home I had 3 green bars. By the time we got to the hotels . The Si said its due for an oil change lol

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So far I'm enjoying it. I haven't driven the car as much as I'd like to get a comprehensive sense of things, but on the few trips I've taken after installation, I'd say it's a worthwhile investment. It will probably take me a month or so to travel a super wide range of road surfaces to get a full impression. Thus far, I wouldn't say that it's night & day revelatory, but my car does feel a good amount more solid and composed, and that is exactly what I wanted. E36s are not the most rigid chassis out there, so every bit of reinforcement/bracing helps. You can certainly feel the improvement with it installed, and my car did seem to track straighter over a particularly uneven/rutted section of road near my house. As mentioned earlier, it also makes the car feel more solid, like a more substantial vehicle. Expansion joints & cracks in pavement seem to produce less noise inside the cabin, and it seems to make the car feel like it's screwed together better.

Given how little it cost, how easy it was to install, the benefits of stiffening up the chassis, and protecting the oil pan, it's a no-brainer to me. I'd definitely recommend it. If anyone wants pointers on how best to install one, I can walk you through it. I installed mine using hardware I that bought from a local hardware store, not from BMW, and the way I did it is not only easier to install, but provides superior anchor points without the need of buying or borrowing expensive tools.
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Yeah, not drastic....but it's nearly 25% off from peak, and engine was cold. Disappointing given that I have a miss on cyls 2 & 3.

I guess I'll change the crank sensor and intake gaskets and boot and put it back together and see what I come up with. Still need to do the H2O pump and t-stat too. I think if it is a BHG I'm going to bypass the heater core, pull the tstat, and run some Blue Devil and try my luck with that. I have no desire or time to change the HG right now.
Redo the compression test, but pull the fuel pump relay, start the engine and let it run till it shuts down. None of those readings are bad, in fact 155 psi is the correct nominal value (14.7psi atmospheric x 10.5:1 compression ratio =154.3psi). When you have the fuel injection still pumping fuel that doesn't get burned it collects in the cylinders and increases the compression ratio. I'd expect you to see the delta between the values nominalize and be in the 165-175 psi range due to accumulated carbon build up.

The low compression reading on 2 & 3 ( and somewhat on 4) might be indicative of an injector issue that's causing your miss.
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Old 08-27-2012, 02:11 PM
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Redo the compression test, but pull the fuel pump relay, start the engine and let it run till it shuts down. None of those readings are bad, in fact 155 psi is the correct nominal value (14.7psi atmospheric x 10.5:1 compression ratio =154.3psi). When you have the fuel injection still pumping fuel that doesn't get burned it collects in the cylinders and increases the compression ratio. I'd expect you to see the delta between the values nominalize and be in the 165-175 psi range due to accumulated carbon build up.

The low compression reading on 2 & 3 ( and somewhat on 4) might be indicative of an injector issue that's causing your miss.
I did pull both the fuel pump and DME relays, and cranked it several times with WOT to try to clear out any remaining.

When pulling the fuel rail while removing the mani I released the valve on the end and got no pressure or fuel so I think I got it all cleared out prior to the test.

When I pulled the breather tube from the valve cover there was some pretty milky looking oil there so I think it is leaking into the oil. Preponderance of evidence. I really do think I'll try blue devil and see what happens..... Will redo compression test with it warmed up after all put together and then after treatment and see what happens.

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Will redo compression test with it warmed up after all put together and then after treatment and see what happens.
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So far I'm enjoying it. I haven't driven the car as much as I'd like to get a comprehensive sense of things, but on the few trips I've taken after installation, I'd say it's a worthwhile investment. It will probably take me a month or so to travel a super wide range of road surfaces to get a full impression. Thus far, I wouldn't say that it's night & day revelatory, but my car does feel a good amount more solid and composed, and that is exactly what I wanted. E36s are not the most rigid chassis out there, so every bit of reinforcement/bracing helps. You can certainly feel the improvement with it installed, and my car did seem to track straighter over a particularly uneven/rutted section of road near my house. As mentioned earlier, it also makes the car feel more solid, like a more substantial vehicle. Expansion joints & cracks in pavement seem to produce less noise inside the cabin, and it seems to make the car feel like it's screwed together better.

Given how little it cost, how easy it was to install, the benefits of stiffening up the chassis, and protecting the oil pan, it's a no-brainer to me. I'd definitely recommend it. If anyone wants pointers on how best to install one, I can walk you through it. I installed mine using hardware I that bought from a local hardware store, not from BMW, and the way I did it is not only easier to install, but provides superior anchor points without the need of buying or borrowing expensive tools.
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Are those wider? I like, and where can you purchased wider lips?
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