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E36 (1991 - 1999)
The E36 chassis 3-Series BMW was a huge hit among driving enthusiasts from the first moment the car hit the pavement. The E36 won numerous awards over the years it was produced and is still a favorite of many BMW enthusiasts to this day! -- View the E36 Wiki

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Old 01-31-2013, 08:48 PM
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I'm surprised you could get one from the dealer at all. I thought they were long out of production.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:19 PM
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bmw of seattle can get then within a week for around$700 each no clips just a bear card.
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Old 01-31-2013, 09:47 PM
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Lol. They're too cheap to throw in the 50cent clips with a seven hundred dollar piece of carboard and fake leather.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:03 PM
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why do you say fake??? my factory ones have real leather not fake so why would the replacement have any diffident.
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Old 01-31-2013, 11:27 PM
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why do you say fake??? my factory ones have real leather not fake so why would the replacement have any diffident.


Because these are not leather.



The inserts in these however, are.
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Old 02-01-2013, 12:17 AM
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not the entire doorskin, just the cards (inserts).

i would simply get door panels if that were the case. i'm not *that* insane to try to tackle that job without some sort of garage set up to be able to have all of the necessary clamps ans other equipment to get the job done easily.




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If you are talking about regluing the OEM cover on the insert....good luck with that. Those inserts are the hardest part of an already very difficult job. Since they have the deepest concave profile of any part on the door card, they will fight you tooth and nail. BT, DT, bought a Tee shirt and signed up for the newsletter.

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Old 02-01-2013, 07:47 AM
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Because these are not leather.



The inserts in these however, are.
well mine have real leather not that fake stuff you show in the first pic, hence why when I went in to the dealer they said if you had the leatherette(faulse leather) the cards would only Around $400 a card rather then around $700. my vin decodes out to having full leather interior including the door cards.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:33 AM
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Pictures of your door panels? I thought only Lux package, late-model E36s got real leather inserts.
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:42 AM
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fixed my cig lighter assembly. and replaced all of the related switches back. was going to do an accessory port mod, but didn't get around to it. still want to do it, but i think i want to get someting with a flippy lid so i don't jam anything inside when not being used. will see what i see on my next trip around the salvage yard.


spent the afternoon looking at various fabrics for a redo on the interior. want to get something done before bfe, and am still uncertain. i want to do the a & c pillars, as well as all 4 door cards.

here are a few samples of things that i sorta dig. input, guys??


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Resist the urge! Do NOT attempt the door panels! I like you much too much to see you suffer over this as I have suffered. Please, please do not do this.

Just plasti-dip em or get a professional. That really was one of the worst nightmare experiences I've had with a car, ever, attempting to mess with the door panels. Unless you have the proper press molds and a way to heat and stretch the fabric perfectly, all you're doing is annihilating your soul.

(I like the first and second fabrics best out of your choices. Careful with patterns though, it's very easy to lay them wrong.)
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Old 02-01-2013, 09:59 AM
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Unless you have the proper press molds and a way to heat and stretch the fabric perfectly, all you're doing is annihilating your soul.

(I like the first and second fabrics best out of your choices. Careful with patterns though, it's very easy to lay them wrong.)
Lead shot might get the job done if the fabric chosen has plenty of elasticity........

Also, you have the ensure you sand ALL the old adhesive off the door cards before you put down the new glue, otherwise the new glue just adheres to the old and they start peeling pretty quickly. The labor to do the proper prep is the other reason Alshear charges $1K.

DF, my choice would be the gray pattern on the far right.

Karl, surprisingly enough BMW still has a limited stock of E36 interiors in their warehouse in Germany. Takes 1-3 weeks to get to the states depending on the part and which dealer it's going to.
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Old 02-01-2013, 10:00 AM
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:12 AM
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Pictures of your door panels? I thought only Lux package, late-model E36s got real leather inserts.
here you go i pulled one up on a corner and its 2-3mm thick leather
I will try to undo the clips and take another pic of the backside another day.





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Old 02-01-2013, 11:20 AM
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Old 02-01-2013, 11:46 AM
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Sorry bub, but that is most definitely vinyl aka "leatherette". When you look at the photos of the real leather door panels Ed posted you'll see the inserts are done in sections. The reason for that is leather doesn't stretch (to any usable extent) so the inset has to be formed as the sections are sewn together.

Amber, they can be re-glued successfully but it does take some know how. I watched the guy do mine here at a local shop and he used sand, saran wrap to trap the sand while stretching to conform, and concrete bricks on top of the sand to hold the vinyl conformed to the inset areas while the adhesive cured. It's been 3 years and it's still holding.
It was my passenger side door, Ken's seen it and it looks like factory new. He can confirm since he got to hold on to it on the trip between DC and Aberdeen (both ways).

DF's a big boy and going into this knowingly. He may be the one that makes it work......

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Old 02-01-2013, 03:57 PM
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yeah, i like the first pattern the best, the 2nd is my clan colors (scottish decent, have a choice of several on my fathers side....) but will need to have a lot of planning to make sure the tartan looks straight.

the 1st one is more forgiving since it is a random pattern, as are the others. the solid was the only one that looked bright enough to be 'bright' without screaming 'fanboi racer' in my head.


and yes, i know the prep will be a lot of work. i already have planned for that, and have been doing research on the process. the pillars will be the easiest as they are an easier shape to work with and can be sanded smooth much easier. a heatgun also helps to remove the old material. (with temp controls)

a big ol' bag of bb shot will also work for maintaining pressure along the contours of the inserts as well. or beans. frozen peas...not so much...

not a big fan of plasti-dip, though.

i also want something that is a little bit more than average, and, am stubborn enough to push to get it done right.

besides, i have a spare insert already, so it won't ruin anything if it simply will not work.

lastly, worst case scenario i could sand the adhesive off and spraypaint them after an epoxy basecoating.


the material will need a backing, though, so i will not be attempting to put 'regular' fabric (or vinyl) on as it will look like crap regardless of how it's done.


besides, i stayed at a holiday inn once....




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Sorry bub, but that is most definitely vinyl aka "leatherette". When you look at the photos of the real leather door panels Ed posted you'll see the inserts are done in sections. The reason for that is leather doesn't stretch (to any usable extent) so the inset has to be formed as the sections are sewn together.

Amber, they can be re-glued successfully but it does take some know how. I watched the guy do mine here at a local shop and he used sand, saran wrap to trap the sand while stretching to conform, and concrete bricks on top of the sand to hold the vinyl conformed to the inset areas while the adhesive cured. It's been 3 years and it's still holding.
It was my passenger side door, Ken's seen it and it looks like factory new. He can confirm since he got to hold on to it on the trip between DC and Aberdeen (both ways).

DF's a big boy and going into this knowingly. He may be the one that makes it work......

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uh....

doesn't matt have a black interior??


will keep an eye out for one, though.

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Either Matt or Chadling did.

EDIT, IIRC Matt bought his for his car. It's Chadling with a black interior. idk sedan or coupe though...
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