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E30 (1982 - 1993)
God's Chariot. The E30 was produced primarily from 1982 through 1991. The cabriolet was the one exception which was produced through 1993.

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Old 01-20-2010, 10:37 PM
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And now its my turn :D

Firstly, im a background kinda person.. bear with me skip it if you dont give a monkeys as*
Will update this post as i go providing there is no character limit and you can have all the comments criticism and hate below.

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1990 BMW E30 320i Sedan
Factory M20B20 Auto, SOHC 2L straight six 95kW (129 hp) @ 6000, 164Nm (120 ftlbf) @ 4300

Swapping to M52B28 Manual, DOHC 2.8L Straight six, 142kW (193 hp) @ 5300, 280 Nm (207 ftlb) @ 3950 (Stock)
Getrag 240 (unless a G260 comes up in the next month)
Forced Induction at a later date by way of Supercharger at this stage
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So there i was driving into the big smoke (aka Wellington) to go to the stealership to pick up some MT2 clips and the gearbox decides to pack up. Now no gears work. So i got my step dad to tow her to his depot where the engine was, seeing as its closer to wellington than my house, and its where i plan on doing my conversion anyways. I dont fancy messing around with the gearbox with the engine still installed. been there done that dont want to do it again, so she chills there till she rolls out powered by DOHC

So i thought id start off my build thread now that i have my engine and 85% of the parts i need, and the car is toast now so will be number one priority. the rest of my parts will hopefully be coming in the next week or so though i dont need them yet anyways. Hoping to be done by the end of March, as im working 6 days a week through February so wont be much progress at this time.




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What i did today seeing as i was there with my engine:

Inspected the engine when i unwrapped it. right hand engine mount is broken which may have happened in transit as it wasnt on the best of pallets, airbox was missing (despite being complete engine), and a hose from the intake to the throttle body (at least i think thats where it goes) for the ICV or similar. Also was very surprised it was shipped still full of oil. should have been drained not overly impressed with that. Other than that was happy with the engine

Had already degreased the E34 sump, spent hours on it. Saw the engine and that wont be getting the same amount of attention, but i did give it a good going over even though it was pretty clean to begin with. Even blackened the trim even though its pointless at this stage, but meh.

Drained the oil out of the engine and then took off the E36 sump/pickup/dipstick and installed the E34 gear. didnt do up the sump properly as i havent got a new gasket yet.


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Then i played around with the wiring figuring out what does what and plugging stuff back in to thier respective places.
Appears the E36 it came from must have had a remote mounted battery as there was a distribution block. Also has EWS so thats going to be some fun and games. kinda hoping it didnt but should be able to make it work. might get an E36 ignition if it fits the E30 column, will make life a little easier.

Then i realized the bus home came in 10 and with my buggered leg from the Luge (for those in the states, check here) i didnt fancy the walk home so thats it for today

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Old 01-20-2010, 10:39 PM
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holy sh!t, i never saw pics of your car. That thing looks so sick .

As I am one of the ones who skipped passed thereading. Good luck with the swap (I assume). Loving ur whip
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haha see I did use your link.

Good project mate-do we get a look this weekend? lol
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Old 01-21-2010, 01:55 AM
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haha see I did use your link.

Good project mate-do we get a look this weekend? lol
are you going to the wellington meet? id love to go but it doesnt look like ill be going now. im not friendly enough with the guys yet to ask for a ride
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Old 01-21-2010, 08:19 AM
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i didnt read through our story book. but id really suggest finding a better trans. dont want to swap that in and blow yup the trans. also .. gotta convert to obd1 or else the m52 isnt at its potiental.

you can buy an ews delete chip.

is this your "secret project" everyone already knew this was coming.
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Sweet, can't wait to see the finished product!

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Good luck with finishing the swap. Your car is going to be sweet once you get it all finished.
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Old 01-21-2010, 11:25 AM
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Then i realized the bus home came in 10 and with my buggered leg from the Luge (for those in the states, check here) i didnt fancy the walk home so thats it for today
That looks fun!
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i didnt read through our story book. but id really suggest finding a better trans. dont want to swap that in and blow yup the trans. also .. gotta convert to obd1 or else the m52 isnt at its potiental.

you can buy an ews delete chip.

is this your "secret project" everyone already knew this was coming.
This im considering. i think the G240 will be okay for now though. how tight is it to remove the gearbox once its in? or is removing the engine again a must? Looking at a 260 but will probably just go with the 240 coz i have it here. a lot of people have done it before...

I know i can convert to OBD1. may do that at a later date, was planning on doing that now but i need my car back so working with what i have

Seen those. Will see how i go. hella expensive though

No this isnt the secret project, but its is equally as cool. Just on the back burner well and truely now
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$5k easily done mate. I did an m50 swap for around $1500, mark did one for about the same. And another mate (i posted the thread on BS awhile ago) built a m52 / m50 hybrid for not much more.
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I was weighing up doing an m52b28 swap too with an OBD1 conversion from kerry, But the cams and ecu etc all started adding up. And I chose to go with an e36 box too so it was getting abit up there so I was just like meh m50 will do, rather get some coilovers and sack the **** out of my car.
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This im considering. i think the G240 will be okay for now though. how tight is it to remove the gearbox once its in? or is removing the engine again a must? Looking at a 260 but will probably just go with the 240 coz i have it here. a lot of people have done it before...

I know i can convert to OBD1. may do that at a later date, was planning on doing that now but i need my car back so working with what i have

Seen those. Will see how i go. hella expensive though
people have done it, just the same bunch of people have destroyed their transmissions. alot of people get away with it and its all fine. but as soon as you go adding more power and modifying the engine that trans will start to be taken out of its comfort zone and wont be able to handle it. i dont know if the g240 is the same size as the g250 i have, but its tighter then the g260/m20 combo was.i never compared the g240/g250/g260's while they were all sitting in my garage. should have just for the knowledge of different sizes.
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people have done it, just the same bunch of people have destroyed their transmissions. alot of people get away with it and its all fine. but as soon as you go adding more power and modifying the engine that trans will start to be taken out of its comfort zone and wont be able to handle it. i dont know if the g240 is the same size as the g250 i have, but its tighter then the g260/m20 combo was.i never compared the g240/g250/g260's while they were all sitting in my garage. should have just for the knowledge of different sizes.
If your taclking physical size the 240 is a smaller box than the 260. havent seen a 250 in person. Ive found out im going to have to make a custom mount for my 240 to fit so im looking around for a 260 now.

(In euroland, 240 comes on the back of M40 and M20B20 and has a different bellhousing to USA 240 boxes found on the back of M42s, so it has the same angle issue as the 260 as it has the same bell housing. All the research i have done has said the 240 will fit, but its been american sites ive got 90% of my information from. Not sure what manual comes bolted to the back of your M40s or what comes on the back of our M42s but one would assume they are different between the two specs)
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yeah trouble is if i got with g260 then im going to have to get a driveshaft made up which is expencive as it really cant be done at home if your doing it properly, not being balanced and all. if i go with g240 then i have 3x driveshafts for 240, one each of the three different engines they came out on so one *should* fit
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Yeah **** glenn, who spends 25k on a ti anyway.

He just deleted you and e30ftw's build thread aswell.

You should be able to complete this swap piece of piss, good luck! Nothing is as hard as he ever makes it out to be, hes just tugging him self.
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I dont think you will break a 240 with a m52. My mates m42 turbo with 300rwhp ran a 240 for years with hard abuse before it broke (stripped second).

Id just go with the 240 since you have it already, keep a look out for a cheap 260 if you want, and when it blows up throw it it. It will use the same crossmember as the 240.

240 also has shorter ratios I believe.
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I dont think you will break a 240 with a m52
that seems to be the general consensus across most build threads/dohc sites, its just when you turbo/superchargarge that things start to go belly up apparently. ill just use the 240 i think and replace it when i kill it eventually
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I had a 240 behind my 2.7 stroked turbo.. Ran fine for the brief time I had it and all i did was skids hahaha. Stripped CV's and loss of licence FTL!
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yeah trouble is if i got with g260 then im going to have to get a driveshaft made up which is expencive as it really cant be done at home if your doing it properly, not being balanced and all. if i go with g240 then i have 3x driveshafts for 240, one each of the three different engines they came out on so one *should* fit
the g260 requires a fully custom mount to be made to mount it in the trans tunnel.it doesnt bolt to stock location properly. it sits about 2 inches away from bieng flat on the one side. this is because the g260 mounts crooked to the motor. which in turn means you need to bend your selector rod to accomidate that big angle difference or your shifter will be hitting the body metal in your center console. ig you can find a g250 or a zf trans they are a direct bolt on to the motor and to stock trans mounts.
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I have a 240 box from the 318is (m42?).
It's busted arse but you may be able to fit your internals to it?? You can have for a hundy (It's a rare piece) but it's pick up from northwest Aux.
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