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7 Series - E65 / E66 (2002 - 2008)
Discussion of BMW's 4th generation E65/E66 7 Series flagship. The E65 generated much controversy, due to its radical styling and iDrive user difficulties. Nonetheless, the E65 broke records to become the best-selling 7-series iteration ever, especially after its 2005 facelift.

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Old 06-09-2006, 04:29 PM
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Question silver buttons on top of steering wheel

can anyone tell me what they are for? im too lazy to read the manual hehe can anyone tell me how to use it please thanks.
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Old 06-09-2006, 05:14 PM
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You have a button on the steering wheel that says L/D or S/D/M.
If L/D then you can press it. This will lock the gear at the current one (will not upshift) and you can only downshift with the silver buttons.
If S/D/M then you can push it one or twice to change it into manual mode, where you can upshift and downshift using the buttons on the front and back of your steering wheel.
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Old 06-09-2006, 11:01 PM
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thanks, i do have the L/D button...so first i press the l/d button then i can downshift with the silver buttons? then do i just hit the l/d button again to get back to normal driving? thanks
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Old 06-10-2006, 07:14 AM
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You got it!

I am trying to find out if I can replace 4-spoke L/D steering wheel with 3-spoke S/D/M to get both upshift and downshift going with buttons. Software reprogramming would be necessary as well. But my dealer's service department wasn't very happy with my idea even though I wanted to pay big bucks for it.
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Old 06-10-2006, 12:21 PM
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You got it!

I am trying to find out if I can replace 4-spoke L/D steering wheel with 3-spoke S/D/M to get both upshift and downshift going with buttons. Software reprogramming would be necessary as well. But my dealer's service department wasn't very happy with my idea even though I wanted to pay big bucks for it.
You can do it, it's like $1k to do it. I'm suprised your dealer didn't want to do it, go to another one and see what they say.
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Old 06-10-2006, 12:28 PM
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You got it!

I am trying to find out if I can replace 4-spoke L/D steering wheel with 3-spoke S/D/M to get both upshift and downshift going with buttons. Software reprogramming would be necessary as well. But my dealer's service department wasn't very happy with my idea even though I wanted to pay big bucks for it.

If you really are willing to spend big bucks, I'd suggest you wait and just buy the new 750 with the sports package. Not only that the steering wheel looks different, it feels different. The 7 series is a very complex vehicle, and that's why your dealership is very cautious about what you want to do. It might creat more problems than its worth.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:05 PM
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You can do it, it's like $1k to do it. I'm suprised your dealer didn't want to do it, go to another one and see what they say.
You mean you can do it in the sense of just replacing the steering wheel, or reprogramming for SDM function as well?
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:06 PM
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You mean you can do it in the sense of just replacing the steering wheel, or reprogramming for SDM function as well?
Yeah. I assume it's about that. I was reading on here a while back when I first joined and this dude put a wood/leather 4 spoke wheel on his '02 and it used to have the L/D button but when he got his new steering wheel he got the S/M/D button and it cost him around $1k to do w/ programming and parts.
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Old 06-10-2006, 01:09 PM
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Thanks. I will talk to some more service departments to see if they do it.
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did anything ever happen with this?? Did you get this done??
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:19 AM
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thanks, i do have the L/D button...so first i press the l/d button then i can downshift with the silver buttons? then do i just hit the l/d button again to get back to normal driving? thanks

Without the S/M/D button, you can only downshift which makes the L/D functionality almost useless. You can get a new steering wheel and software update as noted to have traditional steptronic functionality. It is a matter of is it worth the money and how often you use it. I never use manual mode. There is no substitute for a clutch.
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Without the S/M/D button, you can only downshift which makes the L/D functionality almost useless. You can get a new steering wheel and software update as noted to have traditional steptronic functionality. It is a matter of is it worth the money and how often you use it. I never use manual mode. There is no substitute for a clutch.
Every EU 7 has got S/M/D.

And I also rarely use the manual shifting. Cause it's simply anoying to use it.
I would just go for a proper manual (Z4 M is awesome!).
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:27 AM
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Exactly. I have yet to drive a steptronic car that even come close to the experience of shifting with a clutch. Even in manual mode it shift like and automatic.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:38 AM
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Exactly. I have yet to drive a steptronic car that even come close to the experience of shifting with a clutch. Even in manual mode it shift like and automatic.
And to be honest, I really dislike the standaard SMG that's a option for 5'ers/6'ers. Than it is more or less automatic, but you still experience a very, VERY uncomfortable clutch-'bang'
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Old 01-17-2008, 12:12 PM
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And to be honest, I really dislike the standaard SMG that's a option for 5'ers/6'ers. Than it is more or less automatic, but you still experience a very, VERY uncomfortable clutch-'bang'
Having owned manual shift sports cars for many years, I have to agree that Steptronic cars don't come close. BUT, I just sold my SMG M3, I must say that was as close to manual as you can get. After mastering the SMG (it takes months of practice), I was able to shift smoother and faster than any manual.
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SMG is great i never owened it but I drove the E46 M3 and E60 M5 its a great experience

It peals out 2nd gear still if you are booking it just like letting go off the clutch if it exsisted

but for the L/D owners there's a service bulletin about the S/M/D steering wheel and reprogram and you are ready to go. IMO not worth paying over 1k for it
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Exactly. I have yet to drive a steptronic car that even come close to the experience of shifting with a clutch. Even in manual mode it shift like and automatic.
i have to disagree. manual mode in the 7 gives you much better acceleration than in both d or s mode. also, the triptonic in my 996 shifts better and smoother than many cars I've had with clutches.
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How do you know if it's off? My husband was messing with the buttons just randomly pushing them and I think he might have left them on. My car has had high rpms too
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