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Old 10-14-2003, 05:14 PM
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It appears the X5's towing caps are 5000 and 6000lb for 3.0 and 4.4 respectively. I believe one of the problems is that allowable tongue weight is quite low (well under 1000lb) which makes sense for a unibody vehicle. A light open trailer, car, and not too many parts/tools, and not climbing too many hills would probably work.
Towing is so much more than advertised (or rated) capacity.

My good friend bought a Discovery II as a tow vehicle for a trailer (camper). It sucked, and was all over the road. He traded it in for a Suburban within a few months. The Disco was just too narrow and tall (with a short wheelbase) to tow with stability.

The X5 has a wide stance, with a nice wheelbase (in relationship). I am betting it tows just fine.
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Old 10-15-2003, 08:52 AM
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Towing is so much more than advertised (or rated) capacity.
Good point - I guess they would factor in some margin for people that just can't stay within the guidelines. So how much do you think it can really tow?
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Old 10-22-2003, 07:52 PM
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Anyone posted capacity on X3, X5, 530 yet?
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Old 10-23-2003, 08:08 AM
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Anyone posted capacity on X3, X5, 530 yet?
Kaz has posted what I believe are the correct towing capacities for the X5.

IIRC, the e-mail from Jon on the e39 525 was something like 2500 lbs. or something in that neighborhood with a pretty low tongue weight.
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Anyone posted capacity on X3, X5, 530 yet?
Towing capacity for 3.0 X3 is 4600# - that's pretty darn good compared to other foreign SUV's in the same price category like Lexus, Higlander, Infinity...
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Old 10-31-2003, 08:12 PM
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Could be a camera distortion though. Do you guys have specs on interior dimension on this thing yet?
I have a 60 page European brochure with "technical specifications" that lists the luggage compartment capacity at: 480-1560 ltr. It comes in 10 exterior colours, 10 interior upholstery colours including cloth, leather and four interior trim options. Has anyone seen a pricing matrix?
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Why is the back grey? I don't see how this car won't take sales from the X5. Same car.
I rules out the X5 since it's introduction. It's too big outside and not big enough inside.
I'm very tempted by the X3.
In my case, BMW is ofering something that may keep me from going to Acura or MB, for example.
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Old 11-02-2003, 11:54 AM
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I rules out the X5 since it's introduction. It's too big outside and not big enough inside.
I'm very tempted by the X3.
In my case, BMW is ofering something that may keep me from going to Acura or MB, for example.
Plus the X5 price for what you get. But people like 'em. So now I can consider an X3 instead of a five and same 10 grand
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I saw somewhere that the X3 performance is better then the X5 3.0i and the X3 is cheaper, bigger inside, etc, etc. Well, I guess that just may tank the X5 3.0i, especially on the used market, unless the X5 is offering something that the X3 can't touch.............. but haven't seen what that may be. I think that the X3 sales will hurt badly the X5 3.0 sales such that it will be eliminated........... unless it turns into a 3.0 diesel !!!
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I saw somewhere that the X3 performance is better then the X5 3.0i and the X3 is cheaper, bigger inside, etc, etc. Well, I guess that just may tank the X5 3.0i, especially on the used market, unless the X5 is offering something that the X3 can't touch.............. but haven't seen what that may be. I think that the X3 sales will hurt badly the X5 3.0 sales such that it will be eliminated........... unless it turns into a 3.0 diesel !!!
Yes, the X3 will perform better with the same engine, and yes, it will be less expensive. It will also be less luxurious, and have less room inside (you'll see).

The X5 has nothing to worry about. Nothing.
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Yes, the X3 will perform better with the same engine, and yes, it will be less expensive. It will also be less luxurious, and have less room inside (you'll see).

The X5 has nothing to worry about. Nothing.
Exactly. The 328 never hurt the 528, the 330 never hurt the 530, the 540 never hurt the 740. Some people will comparison shop the two, but many will go in already with the idea that they want an X3 or an X5.
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Exactly. The 328 never hurt the 528, the 330 never hurt the 530, the 540 never hurt the 740. Some people will comparison shop the two, but many will go in already with the idea that they want an X3 or an X5.
I was going in with the idea of buying a 530 or X5....but now I am probably going with the x3 because it is cheaper and the room is the same. Cheaper interior? Right. One could argue that the 3-series has a nicer interior than anything on the five level.

With all due respect, I disagree. The x5 HAS to get bigger.
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Old 11-12-2003, 12:49 AM
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Cheaper interior? Right. One could argue that the 3-series has a nicer interior than anything on the five level.

With all due respect, I disagree. The x5 HAS to get bigger.
I never said cheaper. I said less luxurious.

The 5-series has a better interior than any 3-series. Hands down.

The X5 is perfect for what it is designed for. It doesn't have to get bigger. It is an SAV, not SUV. It doesn't need the utility or capacity to compete. It really doesn't.
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Exactly. The 328 never hurt the 528, the 330 never hurt the 530, the 540 never hurt the 740. Some people will comparison shop the two, but many will go in already with the idea that they want an X3 or an X5.
Usually that is a function of the buyer's budget rather than what they would truely select if price were not an issue.
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Usually that is a function of the buyer's budget rather than what they would truely select if price were not an issue.
And in my case, I was going in looking at the 5-series because I thought the lack of space in the X5 was too small for the price.....so am now on the X3 because price is less and space is comparable.

Everyone has a unique situation but I still think the X3 steals from the X5.
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I have tried to visualize the X3 with painted bumpers and fender trim, do U think it is feasible and what it would cost?
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I have tried to visualize the X3 with painted bumpers and fender trim, do U think it is feasible and what it would cost?
don't know- but I bet they start painting them within a year. European manufacturers have, at various times, tried to introduce the idea of unpainted bumpers to the US-- and they seem to generally realize it was a bad idea with a short period of time. Some examples that come to mind:
-92 e36 (they started painting the bumpers the following year)
-Audi A6 (actually never made it to the states w/ its original black bumpers)
-original Saab 9000 (started painting them in 94)

OTOH, unpainted bumpers are sort of become "the thing" on hybrid SUVs- and cross-overs like the Audi Allroad, Volvo XC70. So maybe they're here to stay. Its supposed to be more "rugged".

I agree with you-- they don't look good. I'd guess it would cost about $1k to have them painted. Somehow the overall look of the x3 makes the unpainted bumpers look particularly cheap.
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If I were to get a X3, I would definitely get the bumpers painted.
To get an idea of what a painted bumper looks like, just find a picture of the xActivity. I think its front end looks so much better than the unpainted bumpers on the X3.
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I have tried to visualize the X3 with painted bumpers and fender trim, do U think it is feasible and what it would cost?

Someone posted a picture of the X3 with painted bumpers. It was silver/gray color and looked great. If I find it, I'll post a link. I think it was on roadfly...
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I think that looks horrible, just like I think an E46 sedan with painted trim looks horrible. They do things the way they do for a reason. This looks pathetic, and ruins an otherwise nice looking vehicle.
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