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Old 02-03-2015, 09:36 AM
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Exclamation Hello - 2005 x3 - Did I get a lemon?

Have a 2005 x3, had it for 4 months. It is my first bmw and although in great condition with low milage has providey some of the scariest moments i have had in a car. 3 weeks ago it just stopped whilst going round a roundabout, including PAS. Today while driving in small amount of snow did not want to stop at 3 junctions. Is this normal? Or do i have a lemon. Should it really feel this unsafe?
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Old 02-05-2015, 07:52 AM
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Welcome to Bimmerfest! I've moved your thread to the X3 forum, you will get more help in here. Give us more info on your issues. When it 'just stopped' did it shut off while driving? when it 'did not want to stop' is that because you were slipping in the snow?

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Old 02-05-2015, 09:12 AM
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is it yellow or green? If not - it is not a lemon just needs TLC
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:24 PM
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Welcome to Bimmerfest! I've moved your thread to the X3 forum, you will get more help in here. Give us more info on your issues. When it 'just stopped' did it shut off while driving? when it 'did not want to stop' is that because you were slipping in the snow?

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When it stopped it shut downi completely no snow great conditions. Restarted it and that aspect has been fine since. When it didnt stop that was in 2cm of icy snow, so sliding in the snow until it finally stopped, brand new tires, new break pads traction and dsc booth on. Have phoned bmw uk and will see a dealer next week for a diagnostic. Totally confounded so looked forward to really trying it out
Thanks for putting this in the right place Tim

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:26 PM
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is it yellow or green? If not - it is not a lemon just needs TLC
Grey, like my hair since I have been driving it. Porando, maybe its just my age!!
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:27 PM
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Are the tires winter tires? Summer sport tires? Summer sport tires on icy snow isn't going to do crap.

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:30 PM
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BTW...you should contact tim330i and have him move your thread to the correct forum.

He must have mistyped e53 instead of e83...because your 05 X3 is an e83.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:32 PM
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Ty he found it and re posted it for me.
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Old 02-05-2015, 12:33 PM
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Are the tires winter tires? Summer sport tires? Summer sport tires on icy snow isn't going to do crap.

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General all round tyre at correct ratings for the car. Not sports tyres

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:35 PM
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BTW...you should contact tim330i and have him move your thread to the correct forum.

He must have mistyped e53 instead of e83...because your 05 X3 is an e83.
Moved. My mistake.

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Old 02-05-2015, 01:33 PM
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Moved. My mistake.

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No problem...you do a great job...and that was an easy typo to make.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:24 PM
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General all round tyre at correct ratings for the car. Not sports tyres

What is the brand, size and age? Give us the specs.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:54 PM
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Regarding the random "stopping", a little background would also help possible

Petrol or diesel?
Auto or Manual?
overall mileage
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Sliding in snow is due to tires not having traction. Ice beneath the snow only compounds it, I've been in conditions so icy where stopped vehicles begin sliding down hill.

As for the engine shutting off... could be many things, probably a loose battery cable or power to the fuel pump.
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Old 02-05-2015, 02:59 PM
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235/50R18 falkn FK453CC 101 VXL. SO 18 inch, brand new.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:00 PM
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Regarding the random "stopping", a little background would also help possible

Petrol or diesel?
Auto or Manual?
overall mileage
Disel, manual, 47k
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:06 PM
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That is a summer tire with absolutely atrocious tread pattern for snow/ice. It is basically once step above a slick, and its snow rating shows it.

http://www.falkentire.com/tires/truc...s-fk453cc-tire

You didn't buy a lemon car, you bought a garbage [snow] tire.
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Old 02-05-2015, 03:21 PM
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Skip the trip to the dealer and get some proper winter treads on. Swap back to the falkens in the spring.
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Old 02-05-2015, 11:01 PM
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I dont think it snows enough in London to really justify a winter tire, you just have to be aware that with a summer tire it will take a bit longer to stop. As for the shutting down thing I have no idea, that is a new one. Mine did that to me when the CCV was failing, could possibly be a torn intake boot, but both those should produce a EML.
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Old 02-06-2015, 03:32 AM
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The tires you have are unfortunately completely worthless in any snow at all. I have those exact tires, in the American version, on my work van and even very light snow feels like I am on sheer ice sliding all over the place.
They claim to be "all season" and they are not. they are summer dry only tires. I am even able to get them to hydroplane in light rain. On dry pavement they are a good tire that tend to be quiet, when braking hard they skid a bit under heavy braking but not too bad.

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Old 02-06-2015, 01:40 PM
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Went to dealer today as i had been recommended by bmw uk to have a diagnostic. The dealership said that they dont do that!! But suggested that my tyres are unsuitable for an x3 and sends the wrong information to the computer dealing with the breaking etc..system. Looks like a dealership recommended tyre has to be fitted about to be stuck with a full set of useless tyres unles the tyre company that fitted them agree that they have sold us a set that are not fit for purpose.
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Went to dealer today as i had been recommended by bmw uk to have a diagnostic. The dealership said that they dont do that!! But suggested that my tyres are unsuitable for an x3 and sends the wrong information to the computer dealing with the breaking etc..system. Looks like a dealership recommended tyre has to be fitted about to be stuck with a full set of useless tyres unles the tyre company that fitted them agree that they have sold us a set that are not fit for purpose.
Thanks to all of your imput, much appreciated.
The tire can be used, just not for your intended purpose. Put them up for sale used, you should be able to get most of your money back, depending on how many miles you're put on them.
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Old 02-06-2015, 02:11 PM
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Once the current cold snap in the U.K. is over, those tires on your X3 will be fine. (Not the best choice, and will wear quite quickly, but good enough.)

Explanation given by the BMW dealer is BS or just the party line - buy your tires from us. Nonsense about the Falkens sending the wrong signals to xDrive.

Assuming you park the X3 in future when icy weather hits, the immediate concern should be to find out why the engine stalled when going around a roundabout.

Best to do some testing in an empty parking lot to see what replicates it, then go to a trusted independent garage that works on BMW's and give them something concrete to work on.
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Old 02-06-2015, 02:25 PM
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Or buy a $69.00 code scanner and read the stored codes himself then more information would be available to ask about. All car owners should be able to do some basic troubleshooting just to be able to communicate to the repair shop more clearly about the problem.

Watch out on the tool buying, Once you start it becomes an addiction... And then you will find wrenches that are nicer than the wrenches you have......
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Went to dealer today as i had been recommended by bmw uk to have a diagnostic. The dealership said that they dont do that!! But suggested that my tyres are unsuitable for an x3 and sends the wrong information to the computer dealing with the breaking etc..system. Looks like a dealership recommended tyre has to be fitted about to be stuck with a full set of useless tyres unles the tyre company that fitted them agree that they have sold us a set that are not fit for purpose.
Thanks to all of your imput, much appreciated.
Your here for advice but your not taking it? The dealer is WRONG. No tire will do everything well. That's why there are so many different types. The tires you have will grip well in the hotter summer months but will not behave in the cold. Winter tires are designed to not only cope with snow but they will handle the cold temps better even when the roads are dry. I have two sets of wheels for my X5 one with summers and one with winters I swap them out for the season they are meant for. Get some winter tires on and swap them out come spring sure you'll have to store the tires somewhere in the meantime but your X3 will behave how you would expect it to.
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