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Old 03-10-2016, 07:23 AM
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Question 2006 X3 vs 2007?

Okay, we have too many cars & are wanting to downsize. 2001 325xi, 2000 Jeep Cherokee Sport, 1999 328ic, 1992 318ic & 1988 325... thinking of trading (or selling) the Jeep, 318ic & the 325. Have had the 318ic sinc 1996! And the 325 since 1997! Anyway, been thinking of the X3 either an '06 or an '07. Love the fact that the '07 has more HP & supposedly better ride & exterior/interior finish but am now really wondering about the "problems" of the '07. Also "considering" an '06-'07 Jeep Commander but would prefer the X3. The closest BMW dealership is 2 hrs. away so I don't have the chance to drive one easily or even look at one for that matter. I've seen some online that really look tempting at some dealerships in VA & NC, mainly looking for one that has under 100k miles & under $10g. I really like the looks of the '07 with the complete color body vs. the black bumper style of the '06... Crikey. Comments from owners of both?? Thanks in advance!
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Old 03-10-2016, 07:57 AM
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My '06 doesn't have black plastic bumpers; many don't.

There have been many many discussions on this very topic. You will find that people prefer what they own.

I prefer the 06 and older.

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Old 03-10-2016, 08:29 AM
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Thanks! I might need to take a closer look at the '06. Has yours been pretty dependable? Miles?
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Old 03-10-2016, 10:03 AM
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I'm at 125k on mine and all I have done to it is change the various fluids a few times and some gaskets.

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Old 03-10-2016, 11:42 AM
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Nice, thanks!
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Old 03-10-2016, 01:22 PM
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I own an 04' X3 with the 2.5 motor /78K miles on it. I do like it a lot and it's fun to drive in the winter...I make my own tracks when we have tons of snow.
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Old 03-10-2016, 09:08 PM
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All 06 in the USA came with the full painted body kit of the previous years sport package. It also had the more reliable 5 sp auto. I had both 06 and 07. While the interior of the07 was more upscale , I liked driving the 06 better.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:55 AM
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Before getting my '07 3.0si with 100k, I looked at an '06 3.0 with 135k. Both manual 6-speeds. It was night and day. Truly. Getting up to speed, the shifts were easier and less abrupt in the '06, and it felt more comfortable with the road. The '07 felt more forced, and less easily responsive. The interiors on both were contrasting, too.

I got the '07 because it was LCI, and knowing myself, I am sure I would end up doing the facelift. I am still not sure whether it was money well spent. I need an entirely new suspension system, which I am doing now. The '06 went for almost half the price of the '07.

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Old 03-11-2016, 01:23 AM
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I own an 04' X3 with the 2.5 motor /78K miles on it. I do like it a lot and it's fun to drive in the winter...I make my own tracks when we have tons of snow.
Nice to know when there's snow!
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:24 AM
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All 06 in the USA came with the full painted body kit of the previous years sport package. It also had the more reliable 5 sp auto. I had both 06 and 07. While the interior of the07 was more upscale , I liked driving the 06 better.
Good info, thanks!
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:29 AM
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Before getting my '07 3.0si with 100k, I looked at an '06 3.0 with 135k. Both manual 6-speeds. It was night and day. Truly. Getting up to speed, the shifts were easier and less abrupt in the '06, and it felt more comfortable with the road. The '07 felt more forced, and less easily responsive. The interiors on both were contrasting, too.

I got the '07 because it was LCI, and knowing myself, I am sure I would end up doing the facelift. I am still not sure whether it was money well spent. I need an entirely new suspension system, which I am doing now. The '06 went for almost half the price of the '07.
Interesting... It seems all 4 of our current Bimmers are the last year model before the update so the '06 is looking better & better! .

Great comments, anyone else?
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:24 AM
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I bought my 07 with 127k, one owner, miles on the clock. Four months later I'm over 135k.

Almost immediately had to replace the valvetronic sensor and related gaskets. Suspect that either the steering angle sensor or DSC (or both) are failing though there are no codes yet.

My initial impression is that this is a rather fragile vehicle, a high maintenance girlfriend, if you will, compared to something more pedestrian like a Toyota.

I anticipate that my E83 and the wifes F25 will both leave and not be replaced with BMWs in a few years. We'll see. There's a lot to like about BMW but I'm having trouble adjusting to the lifestyle, I guess.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:37 AM
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It's all the N52. Its a nice engine, but it has too many damn gaskets when BMW still can't figure out how to make a gasket. On the M54 you have valve cover, Oil filter housing, and oil pan.

On the N52 you have upper and lower oil pan, Oil level sensor, valve cover, Oil filter housing, valvetronic motor, vacuum pump, eccentric sensor in the front. If you don't watch that last seal, Oil can creep all the way up the harness and into the DME, frying it.

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Old 03-11-2016, 08:39 AM
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I bought my 07 with 127k, one owner, miles on the clock. Four months later I'm over 135k.

Almost immediately had to replace the valvetronic sensor and related gaskets. Suspect that either the steering angle sensor or DSC (or both) are failing though there are no codes yet.

My initial impression is that this is a rather fragile vehicle, a high maintenance girlfriend, if you will, compared to something more pedestrian like a Toyota.

I anticipate that my E83 and the wifes F25 will both leave and not be replaced with BMWs in a few years. We'll see. There's a lot to like about BMW but I'm having trouble adjusting to the lifestyle, I guess.
I have steered away from the new ones for this reason. The reliability is just gone. Now injector and turbo issues are starting to emerge on the N20. BMW has been using forced induction and direct injection is the introduction of the N54 in 06/07 and now, 10 years later, it is still a **** show.

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Old 03-11-2016, 10:35 AM
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Love our 2006

Driven it from 50k to 138k with one unscheduled repair of note - VANOS hose developed leak

Other than that, oil changes, tires, brakes.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:12 AM
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Suspect that either the steering angle sensor or DSC (or both) are failing though there are no codes yet.
Why do you suspect either of these may be going? I have an 07 with about 103k miles on it and I'm having issues with the interior turn signals, steering wheel radio controls and a random air bag light which all occur at the same time as well as no stability control working. The same thing as you I don't have any codes to indicate the SAS or DSC so I'm very hesitant to start replacing parts.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:25 AM
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Keep in info coming, Folks! Appreciate it!
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:11 PM
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Why do you suspect either of these may be going? I have an 07 with about 103k miles on it and I'm having issues with the interior turn signals, steering wheel radio controls and a random air bag light which all occur at the same time as well as no stability control working. The same thing as you I don't have any codes to indicate the SAS or DSC so I'm very hesitant to start replacing parts.

I get a grinding noise with a flashing 4x4 light during hard left turns (think trying to beat oncoming traffic into a parking lot). Pretty consistent, whether under power or coasting, maybe 20 times in all over the past 2-3 months. Sounds/feels just like the teeth are stripping off the plastic gear in the TC actuator - I bought two of the $12 ones from Amazon but haven't had the time to actually disassemble the actuator to check it.
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Old 03-11-2016, 02:32 PM
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I get a grinding noise with a flashing 4x4 light during hard left turns ........
Don't think this is related to the thread topic of 2006 vs. 2007, but

I am sure the grinding noise with 4x4 flashing is not the actuator gear teeth getting shredded. It is just the normal xDrive power/braking interventions on that left rear wheel because it loses grip.

How is the rear tread wear compared to the fronts? Are you on snow tires?

Does it only happen on certain left handers where there is loose gravel?

If you bought replacement gear wheel because of other symptoms, that's fine, but I would rule out tires first as a new gear wheel won't fix that cornering issue.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:03 PM
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Don't think this is related to the thread topic of 2006 vs. 2007, but .....
Hey, it's fine with me, I'm just here to learn what I can about the X3.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:09 PM
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hey, it's fine with me, i'm just here to learn what i can about the x3.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:13 PM
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Don't think this is related to the thread topic of 2006 vs. 2007, but

I am sure the grinding noise with 4x4 flashing is not the actuator gear teeth getting shredded. It is just the normal xDrive power/braking interventions on that left rear wheel because it loses grip.

How is the rear tread wear compared to the fronts? Are you on snow tires?

Does it only happen on certain left handers where there is loose gravel?

If you bought replacement gear wheel because of other symptoms, that's fine, but I would rule out tires first as a new gear wheel won't fix that cornering issue.
That's exactly what I thought, too.

So I bought a brand new set of tires (all season) - no change. Seems to happen more on dry, clean pavement than on the gravel road we live on. Go figure....

(My apologies to the OP for going so far OT)
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Old 03-12-2016, 08:44 AM
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I doomed myself with that report on my 2006


I think I have a RWB going, new thread started.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:38 AM
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Just an update... bought an '05 3.0i with 113,000 miles. It's the Silver Grey Metallic & it does not have the Sport package. So far, I like it pretty well, decent power, rides decent & seems to have been taken care of. It seems to have the basic HiFi Stereo System & I've noticed that a CD only plays for about 5 minutes before reading an "error". One odd thing that I noticed, actually my wife noticed in the passenger seat, when the Heat is on all dash vents are blowing Heat... when the A/C is on just the driver's side 2 vents are blowing A/C... the passenger side 2 vents (mid & side) are just blowing "cool" air... WEIRD.
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Old 04-06-2016, 11:42 AM
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