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Old 01-05-2013, 09:10 PM
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All medern BMW cars come with a big NO
No dipstick
No spare tire
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No flat tire
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Yes it's a worry
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You may find your automotive choices limited if lack of a dipstick is a deal breaker.
You're right. I'll have to get over it if I want a newer vehicle. At least I can still use the vacuum in my e39.
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...It's just dumb not to have an absolutely failsafe check on such a vital component.
Technically, the failsafe would be the oil pressure warning light, but that would take an immediate decision and reaction to turn the engine off as soon as it illuminated.


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Old 01-06-2013, 12:09 AM
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I too like the electronic dip stick but can't understand why we can't check our tranny fluid level the same way.

We're well on our way to sentient machinery. You check them? They'll check themselves, eventually to initiate maintenance independently.

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Old 01-06-2013, 11:37 AM
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The skinny on the no dipstick issue.

Mine has always worked fine. Though I must admit I measured the oil that came out the first couple of oil changes.
THANKS! Very helpful!

I still find depending entirely on electronics to be a little unnerving. I got ANOTHER message to "+1" oil, which i interpret as "add a quart", which i have done -- the system now shows my oil level at the maximum. I just dont understand how my level goes from OK to need a quart in the span of a couple of short trips -- does this car burn that much oil? I dont think so. I also have no evidence of a leak. I am very suspicious the electronic readings are off sometimes -- and a simple dipstick would let me know how far off the electronic system might be! Its going into the dealer tomorrow for a couple of other minor issues -- I will discuss the oil monitoring system with them again!
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Old 01-06-2013, 08:54 PM
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You missed the previous generation E46. It had a cubby under the hood that was perfect to hold an extra quart of oil, and even a gallon jug of coolant!

Congrats on your new car. Welcome to the 'fest and to the dark side. Someone quoted his uncle recently, "you have acquired a lifelong addiction for which there is no cure."
For sure!!! Actually my 2010 328i (not sure which "E" designation is my car) has a generous compartment under the trunk liner -- where the spare would have gone, if it had one -- that looks perfect for the spare quart of oil, as well as other stuff like snow cables etc!

Agree on the no cure for the addiction -- i keep looking at 2013 M3! thanks again!
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Paranoid, I say. I have not heard of this happening....yet.
Nobody on these forums or all the whining in Roundel have yet to show any bad experience.
I had a older Porsche equipped with with both a dipstick and an electronic oil level measuring system.

You can guess which one failed....
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I had a older Porsche equipped with with both a dipstick and an electronic oil level measuring system.

You can guess which one failed....

Interesting....some say.

What part failed; which model/year?
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These sensors have been known to fail...
I'm currently dealing with this with my X5d (which comes equipped with both a traditional dipstick and electronic dipstick. I also have a spare tire and jack ))

When checking the oil via iDrive this weekend, I received the "Engiine Oil Too High" message. I go and manually check and find the following. From the ds, it seems to be slightly overfilled, but others question whether the sensor is that sensitive to pick up a .25-.50 quart over I showed my SA the pics and he says its the sensor...goes in tomorrow.
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What page said there was a dipstick?

From page 215 of the 2007 online manual:

"Checking oil level

Your car is equipped with an electronic oil-level
monitor.

For a precise measurement and display of the
oil level, it is necessary that the engine be at
operating temperature, i.e. after uninterrupted
driving for at least approx. 6.5 miles/10 km. You
can have the oil level displayed while you are
driving, or while the vehicle is at a standstill on a
level surface and the engine is running."


Tom
Hi Tom --
Page 219 of the 2010 3 series with iDrive manual describes "Under the Hood" - #5 Dipstick for Engine Oil - Refer to Checking Oil Level. Then on the same page, the procedure for manually checking the oil with the dipstick is outlined. The NEXT page, page 220 describes the electronic oil measuring system -- with the text you listed nearly verbatim. When I was getting the likely false reading, at a gas station we located the owners manual page on checking the oil!!

As I said, I am new to this class of vehicle, and am learning as i go -- but in my defense, nowhere in the owners manual does it say the manual oil checking procedure applies to only certain models! NOW I KNOW! I work in IT and have a fundamental distrust of technology I'm not intimately familiar with -- an i always prefer systems with an alternative way to perform a measure -- particularly something as critical as engine oil level!

Thanks for the reply -- I am really enjoying this forum and learning about the car!
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For sure!!! Actually my 2010 328i (not sure which "E" designation is my car) has a generous compartment under the trunk liner -- where the spare would have gone, if it had one -- that looks perfect for the spare quart of oil, as well as other stuff like snow cables etc!
I also keep a small 12v compressor and plug kit there - even with RFTs. The principle is that since most punctures result in only a slow leak, the compressor will allow you to re-inflate the offending tire en route to a service facility. And if a RFT has not been run in a deflated state, it may be safely repaired like any other tire.

Tom
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These sensors have been known to fail...
I'm currently dealing with this with my X5d (which comes equipped with both a traditional dipstick and electronic dipstick. I also have a spare tire and jack ))

When checking the oil via iDrive this weekend, I received the "Engiine Oil Too High" message. I go and manually check and find the following. From the ds, it seems to be slightly overfilled, but others question whether the sensor is that sensitive to pick up a .25-.50 quart over I showed my SA the pics and he says its the sensor...goes in tomorrow.
System consists of 3 sensors, one of which is temperature. Capacitance probe will be precision, but slosh dictates a software signal conditioning & data algorithm.
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