Learning from others mistakes

Originally Posted by SLang

Yeah... isn't it? Watching it gave me the heebee jeebies...

Originally Posted by doeboy

Yeah... isn't it? Watching it gave me the heebee jeebies...

Really scary stuff. When a guy goes off the track at the first corner...

All of them were all over the place! Reinforces my belief that open track days (as opposed to DEs..) are to be avoided unless your car is disposable.

Originally Posted by SoloII///M

Really scary stuff. When a guy goes off the track at the first corner...

All of them were all over the place! Reinforces my belief that open track days (as opposed to DEs..) are to be avoided unless your car is disposable.

Exactly... especially when that WRX went off and he had to try to avoid the guy, then it goes zooming across the track right in front of him.

I was thinking about helping my wallet out a little bit by going to open track days in between BMW DE.... Not anymore!

That was a rather nutty free-for-all.

I do have to say that the driver of the camera car did a pretty good job apart from missing his braking point and overcooking a corner when he looked in the mirror for a car he was passing. Overall, I give him pretty high marks for avoiding all the melee.

There's a good one to discuss in this OT thread. My comments from the thread are after the link. How many mistakes can YOU count in this clip?

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=55666

Wow, some of the worst driving I've seen in a long time....the corvette guy getting into the rev limiter all the time, driving with his hand on the shifter when he's not shifting, missing entrances, apex's, and exits, mid corner downshifts and upshifts, dilly-dallying on the throttle, almost going off....etc., etc., ....

Ugly.....

or maybe he was just a beginner, but pretty scary considering it was open passing.

Damn, he took it down.....maybe he was embarassed.

link is back up and, uh, wouldn't it be easier to count the things he did right?

looks pretty scary, especially considering he doesn't make any indication that he's doing anything wrong, other than getting upset when the porkchop won't let him by in the middle of a turn. What group let's you drive like that AND with a passenger no less, is it just open lapping or what?

ADDENDUM - just watched the calder park clip and the vette vs. Porsche clip in nothing in comparison. Who would put on events like this? It's no wonder insurance co.'s a putting blanket "no track" clauses in, that was ridiculous. It was a miricle that they didn't all ball up their cars. It certainly wasn't for lack of trying. All open lap days can;t be like this...or are they?

Originally Posted by doeboy

Exactly... especially when that WRX went off and he had to try to avoid the guy, then it goes zooming across the track right in front of him.

That's an awesome clip!

Anyone know how to save those streams to my disk drive?

Originally Posted by sergiok

That's an awesome clip!

Anyone know how to save those streams to my disk drive?

Right-Click... Save As....?

Originally Posted by doeboy

Right-Click... Save As....?

Nope, the only thing that gets saved is this:

[Reference]
Ref1=http://202.139.234.98:80/bne_sm026/CalderPark.wmv

Originally Posted by sergiok

Nope, the only thing that gets saved is this:

Try this:
Right-Click and Save as this

Originally Posted by doeboy

Try this:
Right-Click and Save as this

Nope! Doesn't work with either IE or Netscape.

Originally Posted by sergiok

Nope! Doesn't work with either IE or Netscape.

Dunno... it sounds like they have configured their server so you can't do it.

For the Calder Park, I had to left-click on it and just have it run from the browser window. It ran fine. Right-click to save doesn't work.

Does no one else have any 'good' clips??

Not a racing clip, but kinda amusing nonetheless...

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57866

Reminds me of the Viper video.

http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...64&postcount=1

At the Vegas school last month, one of the instructors was telling me how they rein in the Viper drivers at their schools: they tell them that 13 percent of all Vipers ever made have been totalled. I haven't been able to find solid evidence for that figure, though it's not unbelievable.

--Andre

Originally Posted by Mr. Know-It-All

Jay Leno is personally responsible for 2.

How do you know? Doh! That's right... sorry, I didn't read your sn.

this has been a very helpful thread. the best learning is learning from one's own mistakes; second to that is learning from other's mistakes.

i have one question, though:

for the videos when the car flips, i see that people put their hands up on the ceiling of the car-- is that what you're supposed to do, or is that just a natural reaction? seems like if you have a cage it should be a nonissue that your roof will cave in on you, and isn't a stock car supposed to survive a rollover?

also regarding the MR2 video-- MR2s, much like porsches are rear-weight biased (40F/60R) and RWD. lift throttle oversteer and snap oversteer are common with our cars if not driven properly hard to tell in the video what happened, but i'm guessing s/he lifted coming out of the corner after realizing that there was too much gas.

...waiting for more clips and comments; keep them coming!

One of my favorite videos is an multiple flip in WRC, with in car footage. Colin MacRae flat flipped a Ford Escort, some 5 times.

As soon as he lost it, he crossed his arms across his chest and was fine. His co-driver had arms flailing everywhere.

What Pinecone said.

Cross your arms and hold on tight. I think sticking your arm on the roof is just a natural reaction to hanging upside down (to help take the pressure off your bladder, if it hasn't already evacuated by then!).

Not a track video and not for the faint of heart... quite gruesome... but definitely a lesson learned...

http://www.323ci.net/vids/redlight.mpeg

Originally Posted by SergioK

I went ahead and downloaded both the 28mb and the 49mb vid clip of him going around the track. The 28mb has the crash on it.

I am having a lazy Sunday afternoon and I just watched the clips. The guy's driving was giving me a headache just watching it. I wanted to reach into the video and grab his hands and put them at 9 and 3 and make them stay there. WTF is up with that one hand bling bling driving?

Credit where due, he seems to have decent car control skills, certainly better than some of the A and B drivers who drive with DSC on "because I am so smooth and DSC doesn't kick in when I am smooth."