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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 05-03-2010, 07:44 AM
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Knock Sensor 1 & 2 Mean Value

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I recently measured my 2001 525 knock sensor 1&2 mean value (voltage) and made a trend chart. From the chart below, the knock sensor 1 variation is higher than knock 2 which remained mostly at 0.1V. I have clueless why the knock sensor 1 mean value is higher than 2. Does it normal?

P.S: Sorry for the X and Y axis description.
The correct X is Time (X 5 sec)
Y is voltage


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Old 05-03-2010, 08:29 AM
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What codes are stored?

If none, I don't think these variations mean anything. Probably just a device difference.
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Old 05-03-2010, 05:56 PM
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No error code. I feel my engine is vibrating while stop for traffic light and I check the knocking sensor mean value and sensor 1 variation is higher than sensor 2 and I am curious about this.
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Old 05-03-2010, 06:56 PM
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If one or the other sensor is bad, I would expect that you'd get the CEL. A rough idle is caused by other things, like worn-out spark plugs, intake air leak, or dirty injectors.
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Old 05-04-2010, 03:47 AM
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Is it possible the sensor works and it indicates something wrong with the engine which may be caused by other issues such as intake air leak or dirty injectors?
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Old 05-04-2010, 04:58 AM
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The Disa valve can go bad and a knock sensor will pick up on it--if that happens this can cause the engine
timing to be retarded.
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Old 05-04-2010, 07:48 AM
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What ends up with the engine timing retarded?
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Old 05-05-2010, 03:23 PM
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Old 05-06-2010, 07:40 AM
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Does engine timing retarded impact to knock sensor?
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Old 05-06-2010, 01:48 PM
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The engine timing will be retarded upon the knock sensor picking up what is determined to be a knock
Disa valve can go bad and the knock sensor can pick up on this and sence that there is a knock in the engine and then retard the timing--check up on the DISA valve and see if it's working correctly---you can lay your left ear on it while the enginbe is at idle and if it's clicking and making a racket in there--it's gone bad and needs to be replaced.
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If one or the other sensor is bad, I would expect that you'd get the CEL. A rough idle is caused by other things, like worn-out spark plugs, intake air leak, or dirty injectors.
+1. You are looking in the wrong place.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:08 PM
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What is CEL?

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If one or the other sensor is bad, I would expect that you'd get the CEL. A rough idle is caused by other things, like worn-out spark plugs, intake air leak, or dirty injectors.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:12 PM
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OK. I will check it tonight. But I remember I did this last week and did not note anything strange in DISA valve.

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The engine timing will be retarded upon the knock sensor picking up what is determined to be a knock
Disa valve can go bad and the knock sensor can pick up on this and sence that there is a knock in the engine and then retard the timing--check up on the DISA valve and see if it's working correctly---you can lay your left ear on it while the enginbe is at idle and if it's clicking and making a racket in there--it's gone bad and needs to be replaced.
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Old 05-06-2010, 08:13 PM
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From my feeling, I do not feel my car has rough ideal.

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+1. You are looking in the wrong place.
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Old 05-07-2010, 08:28 AM
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Do you hear any strang noise from my car's DISA valve? I didn't hear.
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