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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 09-14-2008, 09:37 PM
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what kinda motor oil does a 2000 bmw 528i take?

hi, just wondering what oil a bmw 528i would take?
0-w40?
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thanks for the quick reply.
What oils would guys recommend?
LE8530, Lubrication Engineers, www.le-inc.com
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Well... a list of the test results from a Falex pin & vee block wear test
(a test of the wear produced) with 8 different popular engineoils and LE's 8530.
Lower index = less wear

Exxon Superflow 5W30: Failed test
Pennzoil Synthetic Blend: Failed test
Castrol GTX: 26
Qauker State: 22
Pennzoil Pure Base: 12
Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic: 12
Castrol Syntec: 11
Valvoline Durablend Synblend: 10
LE's 8530: 5

I'm not in question about my choice
But I'm also a bit of a perfectionist, and want the best there is, as I care a lot for my cars,
(Remember we pay 180% tax on cars here in DK )
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How about this answer; the kind your manual recommends. Now, if you are going to tell us you don't own a manual, then I guess you know my next comment.... In all seriousness and for you future questions and greatest enjoyment of your car- get a manual and read it. It is not like a manual to your Ford Explorer. trust me on that. There is a ton of information in there you either need to know now (like what kind of oil do I need) or information you will need tomorrow like how to reset your service lights.
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How about this answer; the kind your manual recommends. Now, if you are going to tell us you don't own a manual, then I guess you know my next comment....
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There is a ton of information in there you either need to know now (like what kind of oil do I need) or information you will need tomorrow like how to reset your service lights.
Instead of the above approach, I would have used a bit different one
"If you don't have a manual, you can find one here"

And just FYI..... you can't find information about how to reset the service lights in the manual
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In the BMW magazine it says BMW recommends Castrol. So I'm sticking with a Castrol 15w40 which isnt too expensive
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I use only oils that have the BMW LL-01 rating printed right on their label. Mobil-1 0w40 or Castrol 0w30, both European formula (only those weights) are BMW LL-01 approved oils. There are many others, but they are harder to find. Look on the label for the BMW LL-01 rating.
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Instead of the above approach, I would have used a bit different one
"If you don't have a manual, you can find one here"

And just FYI..... you can't find information about how to reset the service lights in the manual
If you are going to pick apart OP responses, then why didn't you just suggest it yourself? The comment about the service light was rhetorical. Unless maybe you plan to be there to answer every question the poor guy has that is contained it the manual. Do you follow me now? In the future I'll run my responses by you first.

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But I'm also a bit of a perfectionist, and want the best there is, as I care a lot for my cars,
(Remember we pay 180% tax on cars here in DK )
180%?!?!?!?!
WTF? How does the government even get away with that?!
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I use only oils that have the BMW LL-01 rating printed right on their label. Mobil-1 0w40 or Castrol 0w30, both European formula (only those weights) are BMW LL-01 approved oils. There are many others, but they are harder to find. Look on the label for the BMW LL-01 rating.
Mobil 1 5w/30 is LL-01 rated, is easily available at any Walmart, and according to the Bentley manual is the recommended viscosity range, not 0w40.
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This forum has a "search" function like any other. How many zillion threads do we need on motor oil for Christsakes! Use the search function and decide for yourself. This topic has been beat to death. Get a manual from wherever and then use the search function. Don't expect others to do your work for you especially on a topic as simple as this one.

Sorry to be abrupt, but really....
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Mobil 1 5w/30 is LL-01 rated, is easily available at any Walmart, and according to the Bentley manual is the recommended viscosity range, not 0w40.
I don't think that Mobil 1 5w-30 is LL-01 approved. Only 0w-40 is approved and it isn't nearly as widely availble.
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Well... a list of the test results from a Falex pin & vee block wear test
(a test of the wear produced) with 8 different popular engineoils and LE's 8530.
Lower index = less wear

Exxon Superflow 5W30: Failed test
Pennzoil Synthetic Blend: Failed test
Castrol GTX: 26
Qauker State: 22
Pennzoil Pure Base: 12
Mobil 1 Tri-Synthetic: 12
Castrol Syntec: 11
Valvoline Durablend Synblend: 10
LE's 8530: 5

I'm not in question about my choice
But I'm also a bit of a perfectionist, and want the best there is, as I care a lot for my cars,
(Remember we pay 180% tax on cars here in DK )
LE 8530 may be the greatest oil in the world, but I have never heard of it in the US and that may be the situation in Canada as well.
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hey thanks guys. I was actually looking at buying a E39 and giving my volkswagen jetta TDI to my little brother. We had a BMW 2000 528i before and im looking into getting back into that kinda car again as i miss that car very much. Im looking at years from 97-00, possibly even the 530's if the price is right. Right now an oil change on my volkwagen is about $80 for just an oil and filter full synthetic service. I put the Castrol Syntec 5w-40 with a MANN filter. Now will i need to do a full synthetic service on this car? and how much would an annual cost of service cost me a year. One thing i have learned is that BMW isn't complexed as my Volkswagen Jetta TDI, that car has to have eveything special put in it. How often does a 528i need service?
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If you are going to pick apart OP responses, then why didn't you just suggest it yourself? The comment about the service light was rhetorical. Unless maybe you plan to be there to answer every question the poor guy has that is contained it the manual. Do you follow me now? In the future I'll run my responses by you first.
I didn't suggest "the poor guy" to get a manual because the man simply asks a question about a car he probably thinks about buying.
He runs a 318 according to his garage and nick.....
So suggesting him to get a manual for that simple question I think is a bit too much.

It's correct that he could just have used the search function for it, but instead of picking on him,
I answer his (2.) question "what oils would guys recommend?" and I of course suggest the brand,
which according to my (very detailed) research is the very best that exist.
That because I'd like to share with every car enthusiast that it does exist.


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LE 8530 may be the greatest oil in the world, but I have never heard of it in the US and that may be the situation in Canada as well.
I won't say "I'm sure Google has " but tell you why. (Sorry - couldn't help it)
Lubrication Engineers is mainly focused on the industry (They f.i. deliver lubricants to NASA)
They doesn't use money on commercials, but use all resources on research and development.
From their history page:
Lubrication Engineers®, Inc. was founded in 1951 and dedicated to the philosophy
of producing and marketing the world's finest lubricants, whether petroleum or synthetic based.

And they sure do that
In every test I have seen so far, they beat the hell out of any other lubricant, including the BMW recommended oils.
(procudes half the wear of Castrol and even less of Mobil1)
Only problem - they normally only sell in drums or cases, but I've found a netshop
in California that has it at 8$ pr. quart - www.mag-hytec.com


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180%?!?!?!?!
WTF? How does the government even get away with that?!
Ya - they are maniacs
I think it's mainly history related, and who to vote on then - they all have that opinion
Even the EU have tried to stop it, but they still get away with it
People are starting to revolt though, so I think that it will change in a decade or so
In Finland - and partly Norway it's likewise.
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Mobil 1 5w/30 is LL-01 rated, is easily available at any Walmart, and according to the Bentley manual is the recommended viscosity range, not 0w40.
I run the Mobil1 5-30 in my Corvette as well. Its recommended, and most Vette guys run it. If its good for Bently & Corvette, I'm sure its good for most cars... BTW its $7/quart, or you can find a Jug of 5 Quarts in Walmart for $25 or so.
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[QUOTE=DK540iA;3556726]I didn't suggest "the poor guy" to get a manual because the man simply asks a question about a car he probably thinks about buying.
He runs a 318 according to his garage and nick.....
So suggesting him to get a manual for that simple question I think is a bit too much.

It's correct that he could just have used the search function for it, but instead of picking on him,
I answer his (2.) question "what oils would guys recommend?" and I of course suggest the brand,
which according to my (very detailed) research is the very best that exist.
That because I'd like to share with every car enthusiast that it does exist.




I won't say "I'm sure Google has " but tell you why. (Sorry - couldn't help it)
Lubrication Engineers is mainly focused on the industry (They f.i. deliver lubricants to NASA)
They doesn't use money on commercials, but use all resources on research and development.
From their history page:
Lubrication Engineers®, Inc. was founded in 1951 and dedicated to the philosophy
of producing and marketing the world's finest lubricants, whether petroleum or synthetic based.

And they sure do that
In every test I have seen so far, they beat the hell out of any other lubricant, including the BMW recommended oils.
(procudes half the wear of Castrol and even less of Mobil1)
Only problem - they normally only sell in drums or cases, but I've found a netshop
in California that has it at 8$ pr. quart - www.mag-hytec.com

How do you really feel about this oil!!?? The question is this: how do we translate these numbers into real life results. There are people on here with cars with 300,000 miles who have never used a drop of le 8530. Also, the fact that he was considering buying a BMW was never mentioned in the beginning as you suggest. It was revealed very late in the thread. Search is your friend. Manuals are your friend. What oil to use is beyond the dead horse and if you have to ask maybe you should consider a Hyundai.
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How do you really feel about this oil!!??
Personally ?
Great - I can actually on some cars hear the difference when changing to it.
F.i. sound from valves reduced and smoother running of the engine.
Actually I don't speak with the local dealer anymore, but is so pleased with their products
that I'm buying it abroad instead. I couldn't dream of using anything but what I'm convinced is the best - sufficient ain't enough for me.

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The question is this: how do we translate these numbers into real life results. There are people on here with cars with 300,000 miles who have never used a drop of le 8530.
Well - I don't expect we find one who will buy two equal cars and run them same way, but with two differnt oils, and then compare how they run.
Therefore the Falex pin & vee block wear test - try read a bit about it and you'll see that it's common used to compare wear.

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Also, the fact that he was considering buying a BMW was never mentioned in the beginning as you suggest. It was revealed very late in the thread.
Not mentioned, but hey - he asks for what oil to use in a 528, and according to his garage and nick he runs a 318
Should be quite obvious I think.

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Search is your friend. Manuals are your friend. What oil to use is beyond the dead horse and if you have to ask maybe you should consider a Hyundai.
The first part I've already agreed with you on, but the last part I think is best that I refrain from commenting
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The first part I've already agreed with you on, but the last part I think is best that I refrain from commenting[/QUOTE]

LOL I think you made your feelings known! Wonder why Le 8530 does not carry the LL-01 rating? Problem is that nearly every oil claims they are the best. How much is the stuff a quart and without the LL-01 rating why would someone switch to an oil so hard to find here? I can't even google the price USD per quart or liter.

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The first part I've already agreed with you on, but the last part I think is best that I refrain from commenting

LOL I think you made your feelings known!

Bill
I hope so - should already be in the first reply I made - between the lines
Lighten up man, no need to flame people
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