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E70 BMW X5 produced between 2007 and 2013. Discuss the E70 X5 with other BMW owners here.

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Old 09-30-2010, 05:53 AM
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Rob...looks nice...did you do either of the wiring options? any problems?
I did the aftermarket wiring so as not to have to deal with reprogramming the car. I used the Modulite Unit - works without issue, it hooks directly to the battery (which is conveniently located in the back) and then just monitors the light circuits, but doesn't put any draw on them, it pulls the current directly from the battery to light the trailer lights so that it doesn't set off any bulb warning for extra current draw. It was pretty easy to wire when the bumper was off, I used an existing grommet on the right side to run the wires out to the hitch and mount the plug, then just a ground which is right there by the battery and 12V from the battery - 3 wire taps on the right tail light and one on the left.

Certainly the OEM wiring is easier, just plug it in under the car, but it is a lot more money and requires the coding at the dealer, so probably ends up being 300 bucks instead of 50 and just as much of my time.

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Old 09-30-2010, 05:54 AM
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Make sure the ball will not be too low. You want the trailer tongue level with the ball
I just use it for a little 5x8 utility trailer, I actually still need a drop down to get the trailer level as it is pretty low.

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Old 09-30-2010, 06:49 AM
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we have a guy a few towns up that does the aftermarket installs as you have done for $550....I was waiting for someone to 'do it' before we pulled the plug...sounds like a no brainer! thanks for the info.
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Old 09-30-2010, 07:20 AM
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I just use it for a little 5x8 utility trailer, I actually still need a drop down to get the trailer level as it is pretty low.

Rob
Looks like a good solution for utility trailers or bike racks. For my long hauls with a 3600# boat, I'm more comfortable with OEM.
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Old 10-10-2010, 07:25 PM
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Just finished 850 miles towing my boat from ct to Hilton head, sc. Averaged 14.9 mpg pulling 3600 pounds. Set the cruise on 64. Felt good. Felt REALLY good to unhitch the boat at the boatyard and do the final 30 miles without the extra weight. The diesel is really a super vehicle.
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Old 10-11-2010, 05:53 AM
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I took mine in on Friday for an OEM install after talking to them about the software issues and that they need to get the regional maintenance rep involved. They said, "no problem"! Got a text from my friend at the dealer saying the hitch is installed but they were having "software issues"!!! That is, after me warning them. I wish they'd put out a service bulletin with instructions for ALL the dealers so this would be a no brainer. Wonder how long it'll take for them to sort this out?

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Old 10-11-2010, 08:50 AM
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Did mine at the dealer a couple of weeks ago, had a small issue with the programming due to system interruption but finished it the next day just fine.
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Old 10-25-2010, 01:05 PM
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Tekonsha Prodigy RF and 2009 X5 35d

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I just installed mine (photo below) and used the new Tekonsha Prodigy RF. What a great innovation. It works perfectly, is completely transportable from car to car and doesn't require any in-car installation (e.g. no need to run wires). Highly recommended.
Hi Howellm70,

I am thinking of purchasing a Tekonsha Prodigy RF to use with my X5 35d. Did you have any problems with pairing? I called Tekonsha and spoke to a tech who said that sometimes there are problems with the LED trailer lights.

Thanks for your advice.
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Old 10-27-2010, 03:41 PM
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Hi guys, I just ordered my hitch kit for my 2011 x5d. I am planning to tow my race car to the track. Do you guys also purchase the BMW Electric Trailer Controller (PN: 82 11 0 420 082) from BMW or using any aftermarket one? Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-27-2010, 03:47 PM
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I am loving the etrailer hitch. I am only going to use it for a bike/ski rack and would not meet the lights. Plus no cutting up of the rear bumper which I think looks bad. If I really need to pull something larger I would use one of my company trucks. GREAT FIND!
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Old 10-27-2010, 04:33 PM
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Not using any controller. I have surge brakes on my trailer. I believe the part number you have is for a 2010 setup...not sure if there's a difference between '10 and '11..good luck.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:12 PM
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Anybody with comments or pics from the european hitch ?
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:44 PM
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Hi guys, I just ordered my hitch kit for my 2011 x5d. I am planning to tow my race car to the track. Do you guys also purchase the BMW Electric Trailer Controller (PN: 82 11 0 420 082) from BMW or using any aftermarket one? Thanks in advance.
I use the same controller on my X5d that I had been using for 5 years on my X3. Original cost was about $70. It is hard wired.

You may want to check out the wireless controllers. I've seen posts on Bimmerfest about them.
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Old 10-27-2010, 05:50 PM
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Tekonsha prodigy rf is mentioned a few posts back. Seems to work well
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Old 10-29-2010, 01:24 PM
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Power to trailer

The dealer installed the OEM hitch on my 2011 X5d.

It is working well, except the trailer isn't getting power so the car doesn't charge the trailer battery when I'm towing. The brake lights, turn signals, running lights, etc work fine.

Has anyone had the OEM hitch and brake controller installed successfully where everything is working properly? I've had the X5 into the dealer twice now and they can't figure it out.

Other than the electrical issue, it seems like the X5d was made to tow. I have a 4,000lb travel trailer and X5d handles it easily, even up fairly steep hills.
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Old 12-19-2010, 04:04 PM
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Hello everyone,

Very informative thread. Interesting that the cutout for Norm's hitch is not as bad that MITCHF cutout. See posts 89 and 94. What is the difference? I wonder if Norm's hitch is for 2010 and MITCHF hitch is for 2011. I alos have a question in regards to programming. What does the programming do exactly? Does it only allow for the lights to work or does it change the way the vehicle behaves when towing (i.e engine and transmission management, sway control, etc.)

Does the vehicle provide a visual indication when the trailer is connected? I have a Land Rover LR3 and when I hookup the trailer, there is a specific symbol that lights up ensuring that the trailer is connected.

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Old 12-30-2010, 09:07 AM
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Execuhitch-the answer to a clean looking hitch mount

I found this hitch product today. http://www.execuhitch.com/Default.as...language=en-US

Im looking into them to make sure they have a compatible product for the 011 model. The company is based in Atlanta & South Africa- they have or soon to have a manufacturing in Atl (I live in Atlanta) so I will go and get a closer look at it next week and see if I can get a few questions answered. This hitch is similar to the Euro design which I prefer- and it featuers a removable mount - which shows no visible signs that there is even a tow hitch on the vehicle when removed . I think if we get enough people together maybe we can get a group buy. Although Its a little pricey compared to a Reese hitch-the fact that no ugly bumper cut out is required- Im sold for that reason alone. Its got a decent rating @7,700 lbs which is more than I need.

i found it on Bavarian Motorsports-http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp

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Old 02-03-2011, 10:52 AM
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I used the hitch from etrailer.com...
While I don't love the hitch hanging down lower, the OEM solution is also pretty ugly as well as expensive.

Which eTrailer hitch did you order? They are currently listing three for the 2011 X5.

Curt Class III Round Tube Receiver Hitch , $219


Draw-Tite Class III Max Frame Receiver Hitch, $189


Hidden Hitch Class III Receiver Hitch, $189.


All are spec'ed at 600 Pound Tongue Weight and 6000 Pound Towing.

I suspect the Draw-Tite and Hidden-Hitch are identical, out of the same factory, with different branding.

I think this is the OEM hitch for comparison.

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Old 02-03-2011, 11:04 AM
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PS... Looks like you need to remove the bumper to install both of these, and will need to replace the plastic pop rivets in the wheel well. I assume my regular pop riveter will not work, but it looks like you can get a plastic pop riveter with rivets for under $30 lots of places, including Amazon.
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Old 02-03-2011, 04:06 PM
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You'll likely need to remove the rear fender skirt ( plastic part with the park distance sensors in it) to get at the bumper in order to install any hitch- Im sure you could try otherwise, but would present some challenges getting to the top bolts. And the rear fender skirt will need to be trimmed underneath, which might be easier done while not mounted on the vehicle. I watched as they did mine- and removal is pretty straight forward- and all of the fasteners are appeared to be reusable- I dont think you need to pop-rivet anything. It helps to have a lift- or ramps so your not working upside down all afternoon- Install would take a professional about 2 to 2,5 hrs including the wiring so depending on the labor rate- so you might spend upward of $200 to 250+/- for the install- that is if you bite off more than you can chew. Good luck

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Old 04-30-2011, 03:41 AM
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After reading all the very helpful posts here, I decided to go with a Drawtite hitch for my 2012 X5 primarily because of the appearance but cost was a close 2nd consideration. I looked for a Drawtite 75600 and the installation instructions for the 75600 also show a 44590. Turns out the 44590 is a Reese Towpower brand of the exact same Drawtite hitch, which tech support at Cequent Performance Products (parent of both companies) confirmed. I got lucky on Amaz... who had a 44590 for sale at a GREAT price but with a picture that didn't look right. I decided to take a gamble because the price was VERY competitive with FREE shipping. Received the hitch today and it doesn't look like the picture on the Amaz... website. The actual hitch looks just like a Drawtite 75600! Just wanted to contribute to this forum to share the fact that a Drawtite 75600 and a Reese Towpower 44590 are identical. If you want a copy of the email from the manufacturer, just send me a private message.
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:15 AM
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Looking for opinions (and facts too if you have them) for non-BMW trailer taillight converters (like Modulite, etc.). I know from experience that if you use the right aftermarket module, the trailer lights function perfectly with no dealer programming.

"If you go aftermarket on the wiring, you don't have to program it, but you don't get the stability program changes"

"After the install you will still need to go to the dealership and have the software coding done to ensure the additional module functions correctly and the DSC software gets updated to compensate for trailer sway."

"…...it must rewrite a whole new flash on the ECU for when the trailer wiring is plugged in; the X5 will automatically changes over to towing mod. Meaning different shift points, different braking etc. I can't believe how advanced BMW is…..."

"With respect to the trailer, it is simply recognizing that the trailer wiring module is installed, so that the rear PDC can be disabled when a trailer is connected, and so that the trailer stability mode (which is already programmed inside the dynamic stability control) can be activated if necessary."

The quotes above are from posts in various X5 forums.

Do you agree with the quoted comments above? Does flashing/reprogramming with the factory trailer wiring actually do more than just activate the trailer light module and lighting functions? Is DSC really modified to anticipate the impact towing has?

Since I'm normally towing over 5,000 lbs (about a dozen times a year), I want DSC and other safety features and performance (like Park Distance Control disabled while towing) at their optimum settings. I'm definitely going with an aftermarket hitch but now considering factory electrical setup. Facts greatly appreciated but your opinions are valuable too. Thanks a million for all your inputs.

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Old 04-30-2011, 05:57 AM
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I found this hitch product today. http://www.execuhitch.com/Default.as...language=en-US

Im looking into them to make sure they have a compatible product for the 011 model. The company is based in Atlanta & South Africa- they have or soon to have a manufacturing in Atl (I live in Atlanta) so I will go and get a closer look at it next week and see if I can get a few questions answered. This hitch is similar to the Euro design which I prefer- and it featuers a removable mount - which shows no visible signs that there is even a tow hitch on the vehicle when removed . I think if we get enough people together maybe we can get a group buy. Although Its a little pricey compared to a Reese hitch-the fact that no ugly bumper cut out is required- Im sold for that reason alone. Its got a decent rating @7,700 lbs which is more than I need.

i found it on Bavarian Motorsports-http://www.bavauto.com/shop.asp
I had this installed on my 2009 X535d a few weeks ago at their Atlanta site for just under $1k. Very nice product, installation and facility!
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Old 04-30-2011, 11:00 AM
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Hi Howellm70,

I am thinking of purchasing a Tekonsha Prodigy RF to use with my X5 35d. Did you have any problems with pairing? I called Tekonsha and spoke to a tech who said that sometimes there are problems with the LED trailer lights.

Thanks for your advice.
I installed on 2009 X5 35d - no pairing problem!
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:32 AM
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Was any programming required by the dealer after the Execuhitch install like is required for the OEM hitch?

I'm picking up my 2012 X5 at Performance Center on May 17th and I was thinking about a detour south to Georgia to have the Execuhitch installed.

Thanks and good luck with your new vehicle.
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