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Old 11-16-2003, 10:29 AM
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Rear Fog Light Indicator

For those that have or are planning on doing this retrofit, John Firestone, Ron Stygar, and the M Brothers collectively have pretty much covered this to death. However I wanted to offer up a solution on getting the correct pictogram on the instrument cluster to light up.

To recap the solutions that are in existence:

1) Put a superbright bulb/LED behind the correct indicator position and hopefully this will show dimly through the current US blacked out indicator position.

2) Use a spare indicator position like the trailer turn signal one that AndyM used.

3) Wire in a separate light somewhere on the dash.

4) Get a new ECE cluster and swap coding plugs.

I decided to get a salvaged cluster (doesn't have to be working at all) from another county. Turns out the Canadian cluster has the right pictogram. I then took it apart to see if the pictogram strip could be popped out. Luckily it can. Looking at the pic below of the US pictogram strip already popped out, you can see three little white holes that are on either end and center of the strip. These holes have a corresponding little male stub on the cluster itself that is friction fitted to the pictogram.

So, if you can find a foreign used broken cluster for cheap, you can readily but carefully pop out and swap the pictograms. However, there are some differences in the US vs CDN pictograms as explained below.

US vs CDN
"Check" is "Check Control"
"ABS" is the symbol "(0)" with the letters ABS inside the circle.
"BRAKE FLUID" is the symbol "(0)" with the "!" inside the circle.
"PARK BRAKE" is the symbol "(0)" with "P" inside the circle.

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Old 11-16-2003, 11:30 AM
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Nice work. I like it.
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Yes very nice, I had wondered if this was possible, glad you showed a pic of just the indicator bar
Question, now that you have the u.s version out and is not being used have you tried to wipe/remove the blackout material with some type of cleaner?? like watered down paint thiner
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Question, now that you have the u.s version out and is not being used have you tried to wipe/remove the blackout material with some type of cleaner?? like watered down paint thiner
No, I have not tried it. I suppose it's possible but I can't see how it can be done neatly and to the anal-retentive standards that this board strives for.
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No, I have not tried it. I suppose it's possible but I can't see how it can be done neatly and to the anal-retentive standards that this board strives for.
Well atleast you know how we are
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Old 11-16-2003, 10:03 PM
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I decided to get a salvaged cluster (doesn't have to be working at all) from another county. Turns out the Canadian cluster has the right pictogram. I then took it apart to see if the pictogram strip could be popped out. Luckily it can. Looking at the pic below of the US pictogram strip already popped out, you can see three little white holes that are on either end and center of the strip. These holes have a corresponding little male stub on the cluster itself that is friction fitted to the pictogram.
Good idea.
The S54 NA front fog position is now sport. The rear fog position is orange which lights up dim if you add the lamp.
Wondering if the Euro S54 is sport, rear fog. The S54 also has the tire thing.

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since on the subject,well kinda I was looking at the wiring harness under my shift boot when installing the leatherz knob and found two diff. harnesses which I believe were if the car was a automatic,
1. harness for the lighted selector on the auto trans.
2. I think is the auto trans shift lock and reverse light wire, if this is so then I think I could use that wire as my rear fog light wire since it is already run to the rear, any thought
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since on the subject,well kinda I was looking at the wiring harness under my shift boot when installing the leatherz knob and found two diff. harnesses which I believe were if the car was a automatic,
1. harness for the lighted selector on the auto trans.
2. I think is the auto trans shift lock and reverse light wire, if this is so then I think I could use that wire as my rear fog light wire since it is already run to the rear, any thought
Auto and manual trans use the same wiring going back for the reverse lights. Look at ETM 6322.0-00. X6021 (up front e-box connector) is common to both.
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ok gotcha , im wondering what the other wire connector is for, one has brown/grey red so I had assumed it was for the lighted selctor , but the other connector I need to figure out what it is
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thinking about the connector that it might be for
1. analog clock if so installed
2. sport mode button on the auto trans setup, and if it changes more then the shift points i.e. like the s54 cars where it re-mapps the throttle
just thinking here
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