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Old 06-07-2010, 12:27 PM
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2008 335i sedan wheel and tire upgrade.

Hello,

I have a 2008 bmw 335i sedan but it is a base model and not Sports Package. The current tires are as follows:

Front and rear: 225/45 R17 91H Contipro Contact SSR

I dont care for the wheels that I have on my car much and I like to have wider tires and new set of wheels but I know I am limited. I do like to have BMW wheels and no after market wheels. I like the Star Spoke 179 Wheels. The problem is that I am afraid that they may be too large for my car as those wheels are 19". I think I am limited to just 17 or 18 inch tires.
Since my car is not a Sports Package, I like the wheels or looks of a Sports Package tires. I am not sure if I am limited since my suspension is not lowered like a Sports Package brand and therefore it may be awkward to have large wheels on base model?

I appreciate anyone's feedback on what I can upgrade my wheels to. The dealer charges too much for the wheels they are asking. I just need to know what brands of wheels and tires that would fit well so I can narrow my search to those brands.

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Old 06-07-2010, 02:55 PM
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You can look for 335i ZSP 18s in the classifieds - much better than paying the absurd list prices on those things at a dealership.

On the question of looks, you have to remember that the gap between your tires and your wheelwell will remain the same. I've seen people go +2, i.e. from 16s on non-sport A6s (which have lots of 'gapina' to begin with) to then swapping 18s makes it look awful, like a 4x4. It might not be that bad on a 335i going only +1 (from 17s to 18s).

So unless someone posts some awful 'before/after' pictures I'd say go for it, and if worst comes to worst you can either go back or you can get springs/coilovers installed to lower your ride height.
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I could be tempted to part with my spare 189s.

I'm currently running 19" staggered VMR V710s. I've had them for almost a year now (about 26,000 miles) and they've held up nicely.
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Old 06-07-2010, 06:37 PM
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Yeah but it doesn't show you how awkward the 'gapina' would be. On a rwd 335i you should be fine, or at least it's a risk worth taking. Post up some pics when you do.
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Thanks all for your feedback. Yes I am not too sure about going with tirerack wheels but tires, I would probably go with them. As for wheels, 1985mb, you mentioned, "You can look for 335i ZSP 18s in the classifieds ". Is there a place you recommend that I should look to find the ZSP 18's? I dont mind the 193M wheels if that is my only option. Is there a recommendation as to what site or classifieds I should be looking?

As far as looks, yes I guess I need to take a chance and see what happens from 17s to 18s. I wish that I could some how pay the money to have my car Sports Packaged instead of having the base model.
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Old 06-07-2010, 07:48 PM
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CT....Can I ask you what you are asking for those wheels if they are 189 BMW wheels?
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Thanks all for your feedback. Yes I am not too sure about going with tirerack wheels but tires, I would probably go with them. As for wheels, 1985mb, you mentioned, "You can look for 335i ZSP 18s in the classifieds ". Is there a place you recommend that I should look to find the ZSP 18's? I dont mind the 193M wheels if that is my only option. Is there a recommendation as to what site or classifieds I should be looking?
This forum and most other forums (bimmerpost, bimmerforums, etc.) have a Classifieds section. You can also check your local craigslist. These days even ebay is opening a Classifieds section.

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As far as looks, yes I guess I need to take a chance and see what happens from 17s to 18s. I wish that I could some how pay the money to have my car Sports Packaged instead of having the base model.
Like I said suspension and/or ride height can be modified. Look for a deal on spring/shock combos or coilovers, and you'll have probably better than OEM sports package suspension. It's nothing radical; you wouldn't be the first person to change OEM springs/shocks for something aftermarket or to switch to coilovers. To get a ballpark idea on pricing for the parts, see this for example: http://www.modbargains.com/BMW-E90-Suspension.htm

Obviously installation (labor) would be additional at any garage.
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Thanks for all your feedback 1985mb, I will look into all my options, now i know what to do about my car.
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Thanks for all your feedback 1985mb, I will look into all my options, now i know what to do about my car.
Eibach springs are a cheap ride improvement mod (well I like my Eibachs anyway! They aren't as stiff as H&R by all accounts)

Tirerack sell the same rims as everyone else and they will give you an idea of what to look for. BTW BMW rims are made by BBS. You pay a premium for the BBS name.

I think CT has VMR rims which are available in the correct offset/ET. There are calculators available to help with wheel and tire choice, and spacer requirements (http://www.1010tires.com/wheeloffsetcalculator.asp or http://www.rimsntires.com/rt_specs.jsp). The off-set for your wheels is stamped inside the rim.
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Great website M-ratedE90. I will most likely find my wheels and tires first and if I still have some money left then I will upgrade my shocks and springs. Hopefully I will find a decent bmw shop here in MD area that would take care of all that for me. As you know, the dealer just charges too much for everything and I like to stay away from them if I can.
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My current wheels are staggered 19" VMRs (in modest offsets). My previous set is the OEM BMW Style 189s with a terrible set of gen-II runflats. I'd have to do a bit of digging to determine a fair price, but it'd have to be at least enough to purchase a spare V710 (as that set is my current batch of spares)
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Great website M-ratedE90. I will most likely find my wheels and tires first and if I still have some money left then I will upgrade my shocks and springs. Hopefully I will find a decent bmw shop here in MD area that would take care of all that for me. As you know, the dealer just charges too much for everything and I like to stay away from them if I can.
Springs run about $250-300 and ~2hrs labour.
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I was looking at the site that 1985mb recommended to me. What do you think of this deal? "KONI FSD shocks with Eibach Pro-kit springs combo for $850". Wouldnt it make sense to upgrade both shocks and Springs in your opinion? My car is only a base model so it would need it.
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I've heard it makes sense to replace both (shocks and springs) together if you're interested in changing the ride height. The reason being, your lowered ride height via the new springs will compress your stock shocks 24/7 and wear them out prematurely. About specific products or specific prices, I have no idea as I've never looked into changing my E93's suspension. On other cars I've seen people change springs/shocks together or go to coilovers.

I don't see too much discussion of this stuff at the E9x/bimmerfest forum, probably because most people here got the car exactly (or close to) as they wanted. On other forums there's more discussion about suspension changes, and the above is a very simplified take-away. YMMV.
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As 'Heider' mentioned, KW coilovers are very tempting but I dont race my car so I think I will go with Koni FSD with Eibach springs combo. CT, please let me know when you have time, what you are willing to ask for your 189 wheels and tires. I assume they will come with TPMS?
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As 'Heider' mentioned, KW coilovers are very tempting but I dont race my car so I think I will go with Koni FSD with Eibach springs combo. CT, please let me know when you have time, what you are willing to ask for your 189 wheels and tires. I assume they will come with TPMS?
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