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E39 (1997 - 2003)
The BMW 5-Series (E39 chassis) was introduced in the United States as a 1997 model year car and lasted until the 2004 when the E60 chassis was released. The United States saw several variations including the 525i, 528i, 530i and 540i. -- View the E39 Wiki

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Old 01-13-2017, 01:14 PM
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Which oil should I use?

I'm about to do an oil change on my 2000 BMW 528i I recently bought it has 135k miles which oil would work best? The manual says 5w-30 but I read one people use different oil.

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I'm about to do an oil change on my 2000 BMW 528i I recently bought it has 135k miles which oil would work best? The manual says 5w-30 but I read one people use different oil.

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Red Line 5w30. The stuff is amazing...like it's not even oil. Some magical elixir. My 2002 530i with 192,000 miles burns virtually no oil between 5,000 mi. changes. Expensive though. Aood cheap alternative IS Walmart "german" Castrol Euro 0w-40, (label says made in Germany, unlike other Castrol)

Some people on here HATE new questions about oil since it's been thoroughly addressed previously. I LOVE them!
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this thread still lives on...arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.....do a search on engine oils vitale39, youll find many a long drawn out ones, with no definitive agreed upon conclusions reached. read to your hearts content, then make your own decision. btw, your having the 528 model mean you have the m52 engine vs the m54 engine. the oil consumption problem is not the issue with the m52 as it is with the m54.
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Ow-40 is not a good choice. Look it up on this weight oil as has additives that 5w-30 doesn't have that wear out quicker. Any good 5w-30 synthetic will work. I use Walmart brand max life. Or sometimes Costco has Mobil 1 5w30 on sale. That engine with synthetic oil will outlast u. Don't waste your money.

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There is about 1000000 threads about what oil to use.

If you cant search and figure it out, maybe you shouldn't be changing your oil yourself.
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Old 01-13-2017, 06:50 PM
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this thread still lives on...arrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.....do a search on engine oils vitale39, youll find many a long drawn out ones, with no definitive agreed upon conclusions reached. read to your hearts content, then make your own decision. btw, your having the 528 model mean you have the m52 engine vs the m54 engine. the oil consumption problem is not the issue with the m52 as it is with the m54.
Ah....see something good came from this.
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There is about 1000000 threads about what oil to use.

If you cant search and figure it out, maybe you shouldn't be changing your oil yourself.
Awe man. Be nice, you were a rookie once.
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Red Line 5w30. The stuff is amazing...like it's not even oil. Some magical elixir. My 2002 530i with 192,000 miles burns virtually no oil between 5,000 mi. changes. Expensive though. Aood cheap alternative IS Walmart "german" Castrol Euro 0w-40, (label says made in Germany, unlike other Castrol)

Some people on here HATE new questions about oil since it's been thoroughly addressed previously. I LOVE them!
+1 0w30 or 0w40 Castrol euro(never had a more quiet motor with another brand and weight) - just do it - now I can grab the popcorn and kick my feet up and enjoy the show

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Old 01-13-2017, 11:55 PM
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There is about 1000000 threads about what oil to use.

If you cant search and figure it out, maybe you shouldn't be changing your oil yourself.
Well I wanted to be the 1000001 one, thanks for replying

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Old 01-14-2017, 12:24 AM
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Got a 530i at 200k no oil use use Moble 1 5W-30 will try the red line stuff next depending on price. Saw Rochet 5W 40 the other day for $22-5 qt BMW specs a 5W-30 and 5W40 in their user manual
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Old 01-14-2017, 08:54 AM
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Any oil is better than no oil.

Just use any oil thats within your budget, is from a quality vendor (castrol,shell, mobile one, etc.) and is made for your climate.

Remember you have a 13+ yr old car mass produced road car.

Maybe we should make a poll for most used oils and then make a sticky post where people can just choose which one to use?
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Old 01-14-2017, 09:24 AM
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I won't do it! But I want someone to try this for 100,000 miles and see what happens . . . Im sure it would work fine!

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Old 01-14-2017, 11:54 AM
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You can't go wrong following the manual. Anything else is completely academic.
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You can't go wrong following the manual. Anything else is completely academic.
+1! And the owners manual recommendations are the oil should meet BMW LL-01 specifications. (which requires a specific additive pack, viscosity range and be synthetic) I prefer to use an LL-01 oil. I'm at 261k miles on my 540, so it has worked pretty well for me. Currently the easiest and least expensive LL-01 oil to obtain is Castro Edge 0w-40. It meets the LL-01 specification, and can be obtained at any WalMart for around $25 for a 5 quart jug everyday. (no having to shop for a sale). Most LL-01 oils are $9 or more per quart, unless you can find a sale. If your WalMart doesn't carry it or is temporarily out of stock, just order online and have it delivered to your local store in a day or two, for no extra charge.

I don't worry too much about viscosity. To meet the LL-01 spec, the oil must be within a specific viscosity range, and you will find oils from 0w-30, 5w-30, 5w-40 and 0w-40 that all meet LL-01. If you actually read the data sheets (rather than the bottle label) you will see that the actual viscosities are all very close. You will find the 0w-30 and 5w-30 to be at the higher end of a 30 weight oil and the 5w-40 and 0w-40 to be on the lower range of 40. Thus, it is all pretty academic...they are all very close.

People stating a "0w" weight is not called out or wrong for our cars is simply misinformed. Using Mobil 1 5w-30 or Walmart house brand synthetic is not meeting BMW specifications. Will it work? Sure, and I doubt it will harm your engine, but it is less than ideal.
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Got a 530i at 200k no oil use use Moble 1 5W-30 will try the red line stuff next depending on price. Saw Rochet 5W 40 the other day for $22-5 qt BMW specs a 5W-30 and 5W40 in their user manual
BMWNA actually specifies an LL-01 specification oil, so not any 5w-30, or 5w-40 is acceptable.
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5W-40 Mobil 1 Synthetic.
Nu-uh.

Use rotella t6 5w-40.
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+1! And the owners manual recommendations are the oil should meet BMW LL-01 specifications. (which requires a specific additive pack, viscosity range and be synthetic) I prefer to use an LL-01 oil. I'm at 261k miles on my 540, so it has worked pretty well for me. Currently the easiest and least expensive LL-01 oil to obtain is Castro Edge 0w-40. It meets the LL-01 specification, and can be obtained at any WalMart for around $25 for a 5 quart jug everyday. (no having to shop for a sale). Most LL-01 oils are $9 or more per quart, unless you can find a sale. If your WalMart doesn't carry it or is temporarily out of stock, just order online and have it delivered to your local store in a day or two, for no extra charge.

I don't worry too much about viscosity. To meet the LL-01 spec, the oil must be within a specific viscosity range, and you will find oils from 0w-30, 5w-30, 5w-40 and 0w-40 that all meet LL-01. If you actually read the data sheets (rather than the bottle label) you will see that the actual viscosities are all very close. You will find the 0w-30 and 5w-30 to be at the higher end of a 30 weight oil and the 5w-40 and 0w-40 to be on the lower range of 40. Thus, it is all pretty academic...they are all very close.

People stating a "0w" weight is not called out or wrong for our cars is simply misinformed. Using Mobil 1 5w-30 or Walmart house brand synthetic is not meeting BMW specifications. Will it work? Sure, and I doubt it will harm your engine, but it is less than ideal.
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Has there ever been a since documented example of engine failure due to the wrong oil?
No.
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^ I disagree. Just because the wrong oil doesn't result in and immediate, catastrophic failure, doesn't mean that it isn't taking a toll on the engine. Over time, it can cause engine failure. However, when that time comes, the failure is usually blamed on the part that failed not from the years of wear on it from using the wrong oil. Therefore, using the wrong oil is rarely listed as the cause of death. I am sure that many engine failures could be traced back to bad oil, if anyone cared to do the forensics.

If you think using the wrong oil can't lead to engine failure, try one of these for the next 50K: http://www.torquenews.com/108/worst-...-engine?page=2

The last paragraph is solid gold:
"Want to know the best way to avoid putting the worst oils in your engine? Don't skimp on purchase price and go with synthetic oils from major brands like Mobil1. Purchase oil from auto parts stores and not convenience stores. Oil is the lifeblood of your engine. Don't save a buck and risk hundreds of dollars in repair work for your engine." - Ken Griffin
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Has there ever been a since documented example of engine failure due to the wrong oil?
No.
Of course not. But do you want to get the longest life from your engine, maintain fuel economy, reduce wear and minimize repairs and maintenance? If so, it would be best to follow the recommendations of the manufacturer.

The OP asked which oil would "work best?" The safest recommendation is to follow the owners manual and manufacture's recommendations. If one wishes to recommend something outside of the manufacturers recommendations, I would like to see the evidence to support that.
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