535i pricing

Hello,

Crevier BMW is offering me a 535i at half way between Invoice and MSRP. How does this compare with some of the deals you have seen for the F10? Thanks.

Ypu shopuld be closer to $750 over wholesale

Wow! $750 over Invoice??? Anyone else got that kind of deal? Currently, I'm getting $1,800 over Invoice. Am I being robbed? ;-)

People will be quick to say that you should be able to negotiate better. Whether or not they could do so themselves remains open. . . .

I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.

You should do Euro Delivery and you can get the F10 for approximately 11 percent off of US MSRP.

Originally Posted by Mark Lyons

Ypu shopuld be closer to $750 over wholesale

Mark what dealer/salesperson do you use

Originally Posted by ghstudio

I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.

If they are sold out, what is the rationale for discounting? If anything, they should be asking for more.

Originally Posted by liege168

Hello,

Crevier BMW is offering me a 535i at half way between Invoice and MSRP. How does this compare with some of the deals you have seen for the F10? Thanks.

Crevier has the most stock of anyone in SoCal. As you probably know the car comes 3 ways. Low about 55k, mid about 60-62, and Full 70k. As you probably have discovered the mid tiered models are all gone. So your choice if you want one now, is get a base model or pony up for the full enchilada.

Originally Posted by ghstudio

I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.

Best wishes, hope to see you back.

Originally Posted by ghstudio

I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.

I too was a little frustrated with the lack of inventory and discounting. I drove the M37 as an alternative. It's a nice car and aside from all the questions about styling and resale value, and suspensions, etc. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but the one glaring thing to me is that the VQ engine has gotten really unruly. Nissan has to figure out the NVH properties of that engine, because the noise it makes is not a nice one. I'm all for engine noise and road feel, but there's a difference between the sweet gurgle of a V8 and what sounds like shaking a can of marbles. Otherwise it's a great car and a good value proposition, but I paid the premium and went for the 535i.

does premium 2 include premium 1, or are they independent?

I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.




IT'S WORTH AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM. ITS ALMOST LIKE A TAG AND A ROLEX, BOTH ARE STEEL WATCHES IN THE END.

I had a dealer show me incoming inventory for the X5 35d, and there were about 15 in the western US. In contrast, he showed the 5-series, and there were well over 200.

Wait a month or two, and there should be plenty to choose from at $1000 over invoice.

Originally Posted by kssod

does premium 2 include premium 1, or are they independent?

For the 535i, Premium 2 includes premium 1. You can order Premium 1 without 2, but not the other way around.
The 550i, there is no P1 because those things are standard.

Originally Posted by TJPark01

For the 535i, Premium 2 includes premium 1. You can order Premium 1 without 2, but not the other way around.
The 550i, there is no P1 because those things are standard.

Actually, no. ZP2 is on top of ZPP. In other words, you can get ZPP-only, or ZPP-and-ZP2. So, if you want ZP2, you have to choose and pay for both ZPP and ZP2.

Originally Posted by enigma

Actually, no. ZP2 is on top of ZPP. In other words, you can get ZPP-only, or ZPP-and-ZP2. So, if you want ZP2, you have to choose and pay for both ZPP and ZP2.

Isn't that what I wrote?

Originally Posted by TJPark01

Isn't that what I wrote?

That's what you may have meant, but I didn't think so.

"Premium 2 includes premium 1"

This implies that ZPP is PART of ZP2, which isn't the case. Maybe I splitting hairs, but ZPP and ZP2 are bought separately, but the prerequisite for ZP2 is ZPP.

so you have to pay for both prem 1 and prem 2

Originally Posted by chrischeung

If they are sold out, what is the rationale for discounting? If anything, they should be asking for more.

the last time I paid more than MSRP for a car was never...

Originally Posted by kssod

so you have to pay for both prem 1 and prem 2

As enigma detailed in previous post more specifically then I did, you have 2 options really:
"ZPP-only, or ZPP-and-ZP2. So, if you want ZP2, you have to choose and pay for both ZPP and ZP2"
ZPP Premium Package 1,800.00
319 Universal garage-door opener
430 Auto-dimming interior and exterior mirrors
431 Auto-dimming rearview mirror
4UR Ambiance lighting

ZP2 Premium Package 2 4,500.00
3AG Rear-view camera
416 Rear sunshades
494 Heated front seats
508 Park Distance Control
609 Navigation system
615 Online Information Services
620 Voice-command
655 Satellite radio w/1 year sub.
677 Premium hi-fi system
6FL iPod and USB adapter
6UH Real Time Traffic Information

Originally Posted by kssod

so you have to pay for both prem 1 and prem 2

yes

Dealers in Chicagoland offer $2k over invoice before any negtoiations

Dealers in the Bay Area and LA and San Diego are offering me just $1000 off MSRP. That's about $3400 over invoice! This is their starting offer andxi haven't tried to talk them down yet. Is this what others are seeing? Are you able to get them down more? I'd be willing to order from anyone (and wait for delivery if that makes a difference).

I found a nice site to see what other are paying for a 535i, options and all. Amex hosts it.

http://amexnetwork.zag.com/main.html

Specify 2011, 535i, any/all options you want, then press "click here to see what others really paid". It gives you options to show a sales history and distribution of prices by local area, region, and nationally. Selling Price of 535i has been increasing slightly, while 550i has been dropping. It will tell you what kind of deal you are getting. You get to see not only invoice, but dealer cost which is actually lower. Nifty link.

528i doesn;t work yet since there are so few sales, but the 535i has some data in it.