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Old 06-14-2010, 07:46 PM
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Crevier BMW is offering me a 535i at half way between Invoice and MSRP. How does this compare with some of the deals you have seen for the F10? Thanks.
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Old 06-14-2010, 10:56 PM
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Ypu shopuld be closer to $750 over wholesale
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:08 AM
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Wow! $750 over Invoice??? Anyone else got that kind of deal? Currently, I'm getting $1,800 over Invoice. Am I being robbed? ;-)
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:34 AM
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People will be quick to say that you should be able to negotiate better. Whether or not they could do so themselves remains open. . . .
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Old 06-15-2010, 02:38 PM
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I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:26 PM
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You should do Euro Delivery and you can get the F10 for approximately 11 percent off of US MSRP.
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Old 06-15-2010, 08:44 PM
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Ypu shopuld be closer to $750 over wholesale
Mark what dealer/salesperson do you use
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:36 PM
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I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.
If they are sold out, what is the rationale for discounting? If anything, they should be asking for more.
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Hello,

Crevier BMW is offering me a 535i at half way between Invoice and MSRP. How does this compare with some of the deals you have seen for the F10? Thanks.
Crevier has the most stock of anyone in SoCal. As you probably know the car comes 3 ways. Low about 55k, mid about 60-62, and Full 70k. As you probably have discovered the mid tiered models are all gone. So your choice if you want one now, is get a base model or pony up for the full enchilada.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:15 AM
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I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.
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Old 06-16-2010, 08:43 AM
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I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.
I too was a little frustrated with the lack of inventory and discounting. I drove the M37 as an alternative. It's a nice car and aside from all the questions about styling and resale value, and suspensions, etc. Don't mean to rain on your parade, but the one glaring thing to me is that the VQ engine has gotten really unruly. Nissan has to figure out the NVH properties of that engine, because the noise it makes is not a nice one. I'm all for engine noise and road feel, but there's a difference between the sweet gurgle of a V8 and what sounds like shaking a can of marbles. Otherwise it's a great car and a good value proposition, but I paid the premium and went for the 535i.
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Old 06-17-2010, 08:00 AM
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does premium 2 include premium 1, or are they independent?
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I'm fed up with my local dealer who says no discount off list won't even discuss until August because he's sold out until then.....That's rediculous and I wished him well, and signed the papers today on an Infiniti M37 for $10K less. I like BMW's...I've owned three, but there is a limit to what it's worth.




IT'S WORTH AS MUCH AS PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO PAY FOR THEM. ITS ALMOST LIKE A TAG AND A ROLEX, BOTH ARE STEEL WATCHES IN THE END.
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Old 06-17-2010, 09:53 AM
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I had a dealer show me incoming inventory for the X5 35d, and there were about 15 in the western US. In contrast, he showed the 5-series, and there were well over 200.

Wait a month or two, and there should be plenty to choose from at $1000 over invoice.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:15 PM
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does premium 2 include premium 1, or are they independent?
For the 535i, Premium 2 includes premium 1. You can order Premium 1 without 2, but not the other way around.
The 550i, there is no P1 because those things are standard.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:03 PM
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For the 535i, Premium 2 includes premium 1. You can order Premium 1 without 2, but not the other way around.
The 550i, there is no P1 because those things are standard.
Actually, no. ZP2 is on top of ZPP. In other words, you can get ZPP-only, or ZPP-and-ZP2. So, if you want ZP2, you have to choose and pay for both ZPP and ZP2.
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:09 PM
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Actually, no. ZP2 is on top of ZPP. In other words, you can get ZPP-only, or ZPP-and-ZP2. So, if you want ZP2, you have to choose and pay for both ZPP and ZP2.
Isn't that what I wrote?
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Old 06-17-2010, 11:20 PM
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Isn't that what I wrote?
That's what you may have meant, but I didn't think so.

"Premium 2 includes premium 1"

This implies that ZPP is PART of ZP2, which isn't the case. Maybe I splitting hairs, but ZPP and ZP2 are bought separately, but the prerequisite for ZP2 is ZPP.
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so you have to pay for both prem 1 and prem 2
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Old 06-18-2010, 07:09 AM
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If they are sold out, what is the rationale for discounting? If anything, they should be asking for more.
the last time I paid more than MSRP for a car was never...
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Old 06-18-2010, 09:16 AM
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so you have to pay for both prem 1 and prem 2
As enigma detailed in previous post more specifically then I did, you have 2 options really:
"ZPP-only, or ZPP-and-ZP2. So, if you want ZP2, you have to choose and pay for both ZPP and ZP2"
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so you have to pay for both prem 1 and prem 2
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Old 06-22-2010, 06:53 AM
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Dealers in Chicagoland offer $2k over invoice before any negtoiations
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Old 06-28-2010, 12:41 PM
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Dealers in the Bay Area and LA and San Diego are offering me just $1000 off MSRP. That's about $3400 over invoice! This is their starting offer andxi haven't tried to talk them down yet. Is this what others are seeing? Are you able to get them down more? I'd be willing to order from anyone (and wait for delivery if that makes a difference).
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Old 06-28-2010, 01:37 PM
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I found a nice site to see what other are paying for a 535i, options and all. Amex hosts it.

http://amexnetwork.zag.com/main.html

Specify 2011, 535i, any/all options you want, then press "click here to see what others really paid". It gives you options to show a sales history and distribution of prices by local area, region, and nationally. Selling Price of 535i has been increasing slightly, while 550i has been dropping. It will tell you what kind of deal you are getting. You get to see not only invoice, but dealer cost which is actually lower. Nifty link.

528i doesn;t work yet since there are so few sales, but the 535i has some data in it.
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