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Old 07-15-2013, 10:49 PM
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Hit a pot hole!

WOW! My wife and I were driving home and hit a foot wide pothole tonight with no bottom and BANG...BANG!!! Thought the car was going to disintegrate right there! Now I know what you East Coast folks are talking about! That may be the only pothole in Southern California and I hit it square on with the left front and rear tire. She told me, "thank God I wasn't driving it!". And I said, "yes, you are correct!" (because damage would only follow with her luck). No damage noticed...yet but DANG!!! Where is the suspension in this car? More $$$ to look into.
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Old 07-15-2013, 10:53 PM
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Keep checking the sidewalls of your tires for bubbles. Bubbling means a new tire is in your immediate future.

Potholes are the scourge of drivers everywhere.
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If you have RFT's that's a lot of it.

If you have RFT's that's a lot of it.
Especially if they are the first generation models.
Search the threads for RFT's the Bridgestone Turanza's are really bad.
Basically they are large bearings.
Get some non RFT's and if you want it really nice some Koni FSD shocks.

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Now do you see, the kind of fun you're missing on East Coast? In New Jersey we pay enough in taxes and insurence that I should be able to speed luge down every street in this state. That'll be the day..
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Old 07-16-2013, 04:11 AM
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I'm happy i bought the tire and wheel insurance that was offered through BMW when i bought mine. cost me 1200$ and in alittle over a year i've already gone through 2 tires and 1 rim (only rim was replaced because of pothole damage). insurance has already paid for itself and i have another 4 years left on it. Was well worth the money, especially in the DC area where pot holes are rampant. Something to consider in future BMW purchases.
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Hit a pot hole!

Every other street here in upstate NY has potholes the size of the Grand Canyon

Another reason a 17" wheel with a 45 sidewall is a necessity as compared to an 18" wheel with a 35 side wall. 35/18 would spell disaster for your wheel around here


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WOW! My wife and I were driving home and hit a foot wide pothole tonight with no bottom and BANG...BANG!!! Thought the car was going to disintegrate right there! Now I know what you East Coast folks are talking about! That may be the only pothole in Southern California and I hit it square on with the left front and rear tire. She told me, "thank God I wasn't driving it!". And I said, "yes, you are correct!" (because damage would only follow with her luck). No damage noticed...yet but DANG!!! Where is the suspension in this car? More $$$ to look into.

sptt144, set your Google to 'Pothole Explosion' - prepare for an afternoon of reading.

Permanent cure available: Koni FSD, or do what I did for endless grip too. Turns out, there were good reasons for what M div did diff, yet it's exactly the same car.
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sptt144, set your Google to 'Pothole Explosion' - prepare for an afternoon of reading.

Permanent cure available: Koni FSD, or do what I did for endless grip too. Turns out, there were good reasons for what M div did diff, yet it's exactly the same car.
off .... your .... meds again today
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off .... your .... meds again today

Hoo rah! No sir, my NZT a-comin' on strong. The base is identical. Though somewhat highly strung, some may like N54 better than M's V8, and M suspension components R&R right on.

If a 3 pilot opts for what I did, he should expect an experience involving Pearly Gates. Yo! The limit is extended beyond what the driver wishes to do, a satisfaction.
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Hoo rah! No sir, my NZT a-comin' on strong. The base is identical. Though somewhat highly strung, some may like N54 better than M's V8, and M suspension components R&R right on.

If a 3 pilot opts for what I did, he should expect an experience involving Pearly Gates. Yo! The limit is extended beyond what the driver wishes to do, a satisfaction.
Suspension, bushings, rear end, all different along with additional chassis reinforcements.

Agree, going go-flat with FSD cures that insane impact harshness; hard to believe run flats are even considered, especially with ZSP.
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Suspension, bushings, rear end, all different along with additional chassis reinforcements.

Agree, going go-flat with FSD cures that insane impact harshness; hard to believe run flats are even considered, especially with ZSP.
Have to admit, used other than M coilovers and LSD, but I like what I got all righty. Especially appreciate Eibach's linear springs. Also didn't install M subframes & wider stance, but hey, that last 5% was gonna be a low return on investment.
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Have to admit, used other than M coilovers and LSD, but I like what I got all righty. Especially appreciate Eibach's linear springs. Also didn't install M subframes & wider stance, but hey, that last 5% was gonna be a low return on investment.
You definitely have a good setup, especially for the bay area roads. M3 front control arms are unique as well, sealed delrin bushings, so I would imagine RFT would be quite harsh.
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You definitely have a good setup, especially for the bay area roads. M3 front control arms are unique as well, sealed delrin bushings, so I would imagine RFT would be quite harsh.
How much of a difference does M3 sway bars and control arms make on 335i


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I doubt they fit, but I believe H&R makes something similar. It really depends on what you're trying to control, if it's roll/dive/squat, springs are a better bet.
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I have driven on mountain trails in North Carolina that are in better shape than New York roads....people behind me get upset but I am not gonna smack a big ole pothole,no way no how.
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If you have RFT's that's a lot of it.
Especially if they are the first generation models.
Search the threads for RFT's the Bridgestone Turanza's are really bad.
The original Turanza EL42 RFTs were mounted on some '06 and '07 BMWs, not the OP's 2009 which might have come with the reformulated EL 42 which is a totally different tire. They are fairly decent A/S touring tires except for somewhat below average wet road performance. Mine are barely half worn after 27k miles and give acceptable (but not exceptional) ride and handling.

And after the 2010 settlement (premature wear being the primary issue), I seriously doubt that there are any first generation EL42 RFTs on the road.

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I switched to non-RFT Michelin PSS and installed Koni FSD. The right is still a bit crisp with a far amount of chatter over small bumps, but MUCH improved over stock. Actually, I installed the Koni FSD while I still had RFTs and the ride was only marginally improved. The tire switch accounted for the majority of the improvement.
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Pothole

I too hit a pot hole late this winter. No visible damage but noticed the steering wheel was cocked a little to the left and slightly off center. A visit to the dealer and an alignment showed the toe and camber were off on the front right and back right wheels.
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How much of a difference does M3 sway bars and control arms make on 335i

Can't really say as I did whole suspension replacement in one shot - effect of just those parts unknown to me. Can say pothole explosions are gone baby, gone! They didn't disappear with RFT's replaced w/PS2's. No. Yellows + Eibach Sport config'd by Ground Control solved the problem. Along w/all other parts.

Not having done a 3 before, much time was spent solving this issue or that. Doing a 2nd time would be easy! Best done on a lift, but hey, I did everything old school: jack stands.
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If you have RFT's that's a lot of it.
Especially if they are the first generation models.
Search the threads for RFT's the Bridgestone Turanza's are really bad.
Basically they are large bearings.
Get some non RFT's and if you want it really nice some Koni FSD shocks.
I am definitely going non RFT in a few weeks. How much do these Koni Shocks cost and are they very hard to install?
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sptt144, set your Google to 'Pothole Explosion' - prepare for an afternoon of reading.

Permanent cure available: Koni FSD, or do what I did for endless grip too. Turns out, there were good reasons for what M div did diff, yet it's exactly the same car.
Wow! That has gotta be a sweet ride now! I don't think I have the equip or pocket book for all of that but sure looks like a big I wish to put on my list. Nice job!!! I'll probably go for the non rfts first then the shocks when I can afford them.

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sptt144, set your Google to 'Pothole Explosion' - prepare for an afternoon of reading.

Permanent cure available: Koni FSD, or do what I did for endless grip too. Turns out, there were good reasons for what M div did diff, yet it's exactly the same car.
Wow! That has gotta be a sweet ride now! I don't think I have the equip or pocket book for all of that but sure looks like a big I wish to out on my list. Nice job!!! I'll probably go for the non rfts first then the shocks when I can afford them. Can't wait, especially after I scared the crap out of my wife hitting that pot hole!
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