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Old 06-20-2010, 11:19 AM
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Question Thoughts on the 128 vs the 135...

Well I know that only I can make this decision for myself but I wanted to get some feedback from others. I am in the market for a new car. I am seriously considering either a 128 or a 135 but just can’t make up my mind on which engine I want. My practical side says go with the 128 because it has more than enough zip for my needs. Then there is my “lets go fast” side that says..zoom zoom. I know that many of you out there have pondered the same question. So please give me some feedback. I originally thought about getting the 335i coupe but chose to get the 328i vert which I do not regret.

I have driven both. I have also test drove a G37 Coupe(ride and steering seemed too soft), a GTI (fun but not refined) and an Acura TSX V6(nice but kind of non descript).
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Old 06-20-2010, 12:44 PM
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I got a 128i vert because there are a lot more chances to put the top down than there are chances to use the extra acceleration of the 135i. I do not regret the choice at all. The NA engine does not have a HPFP so it does not have that issue. I do not even use the full potential acceleration of the 128i most of the time. It is fun to know there is quite a bit in reserve if I need it.

I kept my 2006 SUV which has a V6 rated 185hp and 185ft lbs. I knew that my SUV would move itself and my boat, a little under 2000 lbs OK. So I did not see how 230hp in significantly less weight would be inadequate (for me). And it is fully adequate IMHO.

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Old 06-20-2010, 01:06 PM
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Well I know that only I can make this decision for myself but I wanted to get some feedback from others. I am in the market for a new car. I am seriously considering either a 128 or a 135 but just can't make up my mind on which engine I want. My practical side says go with the 128 because it has more than enough zip for my needs. Then there is my "lets go fast" side that says..zoom zoom. I know that many of you out there have pondered the same question. So please give me some feedback. I originally thought about getting the 335i coupe but chose to get the 328i vert which I do not regret.

I have driven both. I have also test drove a G37 Coupe(ride and steering seemed too soft), a GTI (fun but not refined) and an Acura TSX V6(nice but kind of non descript).
Thanks in advance.
That bit probably says all you need to know.

The only caveat is that if you go with the 128i give special consideration toward getting the sport package. The non-sport package 128i has a much softer suspension (the 135i coupe comes with the same suspension regardless of package.)

I went back and forth between the two - I was on the verge of getting a 128i without sport, then modding the suspension and brakes to my liking, but in the end went with the 135i -- the acceleration is pretty awesome...

Possible HPFP issues notwithstanding, I have had no regrets.

That said, you'll probably be happy with either of them.
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Glad I went with the 135..

I never even considered the 128 because I had a G37 coupe before and wanted something faster and lighter. I hear the 128 is every bit as fast as you want to go. But like the above prior post says: The 135 IS fast............. But, can you use that speed, or need it?? I have over 600 miles on mine thus far and basically have just driven to and from work.... Next weekend plan to drive to Phoenix from Tucson, 160 miles.......... Can't wait.
Good luck on your decsion.... Oh and have you driven both? If you want an automatic, I hear the DCT on the 135 is unbelievable... Still glad I got the manual, but technology has come a long way since my wife's old 2004 330cic.


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I've owned 3 BMW 3 series cars (the last one a 335i). I feel if you like handling more than raw power, the 128 is the way to go. If you favor power over all else (including balance), go 135i.

The 128 via ED should be a steal. And yes, do ED. I did it 4 years ago and it's the most amazing experience.
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Old 06-21-2010, 09:48 AM
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I've owned 3 BMW 3 series cars (the last one a 335i). I feel if you like handling more than raw power, the 128 is the way to go. If you favor power over all else (including balance), go 135i.

The 128 via ED should be a steal. And yes, do ED. I did it 4 years ago and it's the most amazing experience.
Does the 128 handle better than the 135? Never heard that. The 135 has damn near 50/50 weight distribution as is. Im curious where you got your information from.

I would get the 135. You can drive it as slowly as you want or you can let it rip. I sure like having the choice. Sure is nice having 300 hp + under the right foot when you want it.
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I, like you, own a 328 vert and couldn't decide between a 128 vert or a 135 vert. I went with the 135 and love the car but I might have loved a 128 just as much. The 328 has been like a Toyota as far as problems while the 135 has had some but they may be fixed now and my 135 was "Year One of the 1". It's a tough call but if you value reliabilty above performance go 128, if opposite go 135. That's my 2 cents.
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Does the 128 handle better than the 135? Never heard that. The 135 has damn near 50/50 weight distribution as is. Im curious where you got your information from.
If weight distribution is your criterion, the 135i MT coupe is 51.6% F/48.4%R and the 128i MT coupe is 50.8%/49.2% - source is BMWNA.

For many of us, the 128i offers a better balance among power, handling, ride, economy, reliability and value than the 135i.

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Im just curious what criteria he used to make that statement. W.D. is a small part in overall handling characteristics. In all my research before buying and since I dont recall seeing one report that put the 128's handling above the 135's. At the track, slalom, skid pad or anywhere. Maybe there is data somewhere and Im curious to see it. I wasnt talking about other factors that made someone choose the 128. To each his own for what they want to drive. Im more than happy with my final decision as well. I would still like to see hard #'s on handling performance as opposed to someones biased opinion on a car they own.
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Im just curious what criteria he used to make that statement. W.D. is a small part in overall handling characteristics. In all my research before buying and since I dont recall seeing one report that put the 128's handling above the 135's. At the track, slalom, skid pad or anywhere. Maybe there is data somewhere and Im curious to see it. I wasnt talking about other factors that made someone choose the 128. To each his own for what they want to drive. Im more than happy with my final decision as well. I would still like to see hard #'s on handling performance as opposed to someones biased opinion on a car they own.
If you are comparing a 135i to an SP 128i (both either coupes or 'verts), the 135i should have a very slight edge in handling (skidpad & slalom), primarily because the OEM tires are more performance oriented. IIRC, it's something like .90 vs. .88g on the skidpad according to R&T and C&D tests - not really a meaningful difference.

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If you are comparing a 135i to an SP 128i (both either coupes or 'verts), the 135i should have a very slight edge in handling (skidpad & slalom), primarily because the OEM tires are more performance oriented. IIRC, it's something like .90 vs. .88g on the skidpad according to R&T and C&D tests - not really a meaningful difference.

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Pretty much what I knew. The 135 also negotiates the slalom faster(and track which we can partially impart to the healthy bump in hp/tq) than the 128. Just wanted to see what data the person I quoted had that led him post what he did. Maybe he knows something I dont yet know and can educate me?
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Pretty much what I knew. The 135 also negotiates the slalom faster(and track which we can partially impart to the healthy bump in hp/tq) than the 128. Just wanted to see what data the person I quoted had that led him post what he did. Maybe he knows something I dont yet know and can educate me?
That is the shopping center on the corner of Mt. Pleasant Road and 347. Nice cars too. I like the color of the 135i.
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Pretty much what I knew. The 135 also negotiates the slalom faster(and track which we can partially impart to the healthy bump in hp/tq) than the 128. Just wanted to see what data the person I quoted had that led him post what he did. Maybe he knows something I dont yet know and can educate me?
Driving pleasure. I know that driving my 335i was never as pleasurable as a 328 (that was while I owned a 335i). The 128 and 135 I've only had in loaner capacities and I just found that the 128's engine and slightly lighter weight made, for me, a more enjoyable car to push hard. The inline turbo never grew on me as it wasn't a rev-happy eager engine - it was just push you back and go.

This is great for some people and not at all pleasurable for others. After years with a 2003 ZHP, I felt the normal inline 6 was more to my liking.

Sorry, if you were looking for data. Just a viewpoint.
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Thanks for everyones input. It is really good to hear what everyone else things about this.
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Are you leaning towards a manual or auto transmission? That alone would be a deciding factor for me. If you want an auto, I'd go 135i with DCT. If you want a manual, I'd still go 135i BUT the 128i wouldn't be bad either (still under 6 seconds to 60 I believe). I personally wouldn't do a 128i auto.....not trying to knock them, but I'm almost certain they are considerably slower (especially the vert).
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I am definately looking at an automatic. I had the good fortune of getting a 135i as a loaner car this morning while mine is at the service dept. All I can say is WOW....it handles great and is QUICK. Sort of reminds me of my Z4. I think I have made my decision.
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Good choice! Get the DCT (I'm so pissed it wasn't available when I ordered mine)
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i am the proud owner of a 135i with no regrets! i did not test drive the 128i so i have not experienced the difference in engine performance first hand. i love the available power that my 135i offers me! go for the bigger engine..life is too short!
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We got an M-Sport 128i. It has the same top speed as the 135i, but it takes a little longer to get there. It is quick enough to get me into trouble. It has some nice M parts, and other than the fog lights, it looks like a 135i. With M-sport you get better tires than either the normal 128i or with the Sport package. We did ED and it was fantastic. We also have not had any problems with the HPFP, waste gates, turbos, etc. ;-)
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We got an M-Sport 128i. It has the same top speed as the 135i, but it takes a little longer to get there. It is quick enough to get me into trouble. It has some nice M parts, and other than the fog lights, it looks like a 135i. With M-sport you get better tires than either the normal 128i or with the Sport package. We did ED and it was fantastic. We also have not had any problems with the HPFP, waste gates, turbos, etc. ;-)
I 'm curious about the better tires on the M-sport vs. Sport 128 since Tire Rack lists the same 3 tires as OEM for both - Pirelli PZero, Pirelli eufori and (after a brief absence), Goodyear NCT5 - all on the staggered 17" wheels.

At any rate, enjoy your new 128i.

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Well I know that only I can make this decision for myself but I wanted to get some feedback from others. I am in the market for a new car. I am seriously considering either a 128 or a 135 but just can’t make up my mind on which engine I want. My practical side says go with the 128 because it has more than enough zip for my needs. Then there is my “lets go fast” side that says..zoom zoom.
Zoom indeed.

Check a 135 with JuiceBox3 power - you won't be sorry! Everything's better.

Not as expensive as BMW's solution(s) by a wide margin, JB3's better.

Little's offered to enhance a 128i - can't get much more power than factory config.

Stock N54 seems a bit under the weather after driving a JB3. Hey....
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I have only owned one BMW, a 2002, which I bought in 1970. I have fond memories of that car, but it was also a huge PITA due to 2nd gear syncho problems plus you could watch it rust!

I want to buy a super great car again, but I'm torn between a MB 350 SLK and a 135i BMW coupe. So far, the BMW is looking better and better each day.

Now I don't need the power and my '06 MX-5 is sufficiently fast, but I still want it all! Why not? We can't live forever plus some nasty looking lowlife in a Mustang might try to kick sand in my face, metaphorically speaking, and I want to be prepared!

Also the BMW is a bargain. For $40K, I can get the 135i coupe, DCT, M-Sport Pkg, and free leather. That doesn't include tax or a metallic color, but I might be able to twist the dealer's arm more later in the year.

I have taken a 135 for a ride, and the power was very impressive. However, what impressed me most was the comfortable compliant ride something that is of paramount importance after riding around in this MX-5 with a hay wagon ride!

So get the 135. It'll will be more fun than the 128, and the price difference is negligible. BTW, if you buy the 128, you'll regret not buying the 135!
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